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The Big and Dandy LSD/Acid Questions Thread III- 'The Bicycle Trip'

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Or do I REALLY need to find a place to trip where I'm in solitude?

Yes. The scenario your describing doesn't sound like a good one at all....You certainly don't want to be worrying about your parents on your first LSD experience. Why can't you go to a park/the woods/nature and drop? Ensuring that you have all possible essentials and whatnot of course....I'm not a huge fan of tripping on LSD inside personally, and I assure you, you will appear fucked to your parents :)

As to a trip sitter, it is always advisable, but not absolutely neccesary. If you and your friend are really close you will be able to go through it all together. Though make sure somebody knows what your doing and try to get a friend to come along who isn't going to trip.

SomeKindaLove said:
^ same deal. ambien, lunesta and the name of the other z-drug which escapes me at the moment belong to the same family and the same goes.

Zopiclone. Fair bit 'weaker' then zolpidem etc...but still potentially 'crazy-head' inducing.
 
swilow said:
I assure you, you will appear fucked to your parents :)

not necessarily. i once tripped at my house with a friend on some weak microdots and my mother didn't think we were tripping yet, even though she knew we were going to drop sometime that evening. but tripping anywhere around your parents is not a good experience if your parents aren't cool with it. also with decent hits they would notice.

if i were you i would go to a place somewhere in nature with your friend (both tripping) where there's a good chance that you will not be disturbed by sober people. also an outdoor rave wouldn't be a bad place for tripping if you're into that kind of thing. no one there would have objections to you tripping.
 
LSD and sleep deprivation

so i tried using the search engine and couldnt find much, so if theres a thread on this someone can just post a link and a mod can close the thread (sorry in advance)

well i was with a buddy of mine and we decided to try trippin some cid for the first time about a month and a half ago. to make a REALLY long story short, a bunch of drama ended up happening and i had a horrible trip (even tho his still went good and he had the time of his life) so i dont think this has anything to do with my bad trip, but we've both been experiencing quite a bit of sleep deprivation since that night. like neither one of us has ever had trouble gettin a full nights sleep before that night. but ever since then me and him both hardly ever get a full nights sleep. i've been waking up AT LEAST once every single night and i've been taking a lot more naps lately too.

i didnt really connect my lack of sleep with the trip until the other day when my buddy was like "u know what i realized? ever since that night we tripped i havent been gettin much sleep.." and thats when i connected it with it. and he had a great trip and was havin a lot of fun.. am i gonna go back to normal any time soon..? and is there anything i can do (sleeping pills arent much of an option)
 
well yes lsd can bring on some insomnia/diffuculty to sleep .. mostly during the end of the trip.But really it's all about learning to concencrate and relax and let got and sleep will come, at least for me... and i generally have trouble sleeping.

In your case i think that it also plays a role that you have connected it like this, thought creates reality ..! for sure...

Exercise a lot, and don't stress it ... :]
 
yeah its probably not a side effect of the acid, more of a conciousness ie. at this perieod in your life maybe you have a lot to think about or something and you're connecting dots that arent really there. acid does stay with you in a way though.
 
Try to exercise more, do more intellectual pursuits, write, create a bit, do stuff that'll get you tired out. Either this'll work and give you sounder sleep, or you'll have a more productive life, heh. If all else fails, find some pot, indica/afghanica preferably, and smoke some before you go to sleep. Better than using a sleep pill or ambien imo.
 
inotocracy said:
Would it be possible to use Lunesta to kill a trip?

I once was fed assloads of lunesta (to try and knock me out) while in the midst of an acid trip turned to psychosis. It just made things way, way weirder. Not suggested, lol
 
Johnny woke up bright and early,
Feeling oh so strong and burly.
He had himself a cup of coffee,
Two cubes sugar, one spoon cream,
And as he poured another from the carafe,
Johnny found himself in a dream!
He called his buddy Al for advice,
and said, "Hey Al, this feels oh so nice,
I just played checkers with God, not once, but twice!"
"It seems to me, my dearest John,
that you have unknowingly turned on!"
"Oh Al, what's that mean? How could it be?"
"I do believe your cubes were laced with LSD!"

<3
 
i get the opposite effect from acid. usually i have a hard time falling asleep but after tripping on acid i seem to fall asleep earlier, get more sleep and feel more refreshed after sleeping for at least a week.
 
I've had problems sleeping after tripping the last few times I've dropped and it's quite frankly made me a bit hesitant to drop in the future. The last time was the worst and after coming down I couldn't sleep for almost three days, and it felt like I was beginning to trip again and I almost broke-down. But what has helped me to "relearn" how to fall asleep, is don't worry about relaxing, or falling asleep, or what time it is, or anything like that. Just try thinking of something that happend recently that was fun... something you did. Just try to remember that scenario, and try to play it out in your head. Usually when i do this and I can picture it clearly in my head, then it just keeps flowing into what happend after and then i just keep letting it play-out (almost like watching a movie) and soon i fade more and more into a dream. So try that, it helped me a lot. It might take a little effort at first, but after that it flows like a river usually. and exercise, like ninestorms said, would probably help too.
 
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Black said:
i get the opposite effect from acid. usually i have a hard time falling asleep but after tripping on acid i seem to fall asleep earlier, get more sleep and feel more refreshed after sleeping for at least a week.
ya I've noticed the same thing. monday I tripped all day and through the night... I'm not sure if I went to sleep or just stoped thinking but I managed to get a couple hours of rest. Then tuesday I tripped again, this time starting earlier and was able to go to sleep at about 1am, but then I woke up at 8 and felt fresh as a daisy, which is funny because usually I sleep for 10 or 11 hours and I never feel as refreshed as I did wednesday morning
 
bakedbean said:
but ever since then me and him both hardly ever get a full nights sleep. i've been waking up AT LEAST once every single night and i've been taking a lot more naps lately too.


Could be because your napping lazybones!! ;) LSD can stir the mind in many ways; generally an overactive mind is what causes insmonia or sleep issues...Try mediatating or some valerian or passionflower tea before bed, or even better, a nice spliff and said cup of tea. Anyhoo, merging this into Badic LSD discussion....:)
 
i had a threshold dose of LSD last night, which was only one hit.

I have 9 hits left of the same potency.

Will that one hit really effect my experience if I dose tonight?
 
GratefulFloyd said:
It will sadly, but I know some people who say they do not really feel a tolerance, I would wait 3 days or so at the least

it just seems like since the effect from the one hit was BARELY noticeable, that I would get away with dosing again the next night.

I dont doubt that the experience would be slightly diminished, but I don't mind losing just a weeee bit off the top. Wouldn't it just be a SLIGHT difference?
 
Eight trips is where the fun starts!

Haha in all seriousness though, high level LSD is so much more exciting and eye-opening than your low dose trips. Much easier to handle and integrate IMO.
 
swilow said:
Yes. The scenario your describing doesn't sound like a good one at all....You certainly don't want to be worrying about your parents on your first LSD experience. Why can't you go to a park/the woods/nature and drop? Ensuring that you have all possible essentials and whatnot of course....I'm not a huge fan of tripping on LSD inside personally, and I assure you, you will appear fucked to your parents :)

Black said:
if i were you i would go to a place somewhere in nature with your friend (both tripping) where there's a good chance that you will not be disturbed by sober people.

Hey, thanks a lot for your advice!! I thought of this great place we could go hike in. There is this trail through these woods not too far from where I live. It would be a beautiful place to trip. Seems like this is what we're going to do after all.

I only have one other question, though... how much time should we allot for the psychedelic hike? I don't want to come home tripping, obviously... so how long should I say we'll be gone?
 
You'll likely be presentable by hour 8, though if you get something like DOB or DOI instead of LSD, it will be quite a bit longer until you are not tripping.
 
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