If your legs hurt that might be because of the seeds' vasoconstricting effect on one's blood vessels. Next time this happens take a hot shower/bath. That should open up your blood vessels soon. Or stock up on a good vasodilator like L-Arginine. It's sold at health stores or for much cheaper at good ol Wal-Mart. Pop 3 or 4 capsules of it a half hour or hour before swallowing your MG seeds. Or, if you forget too just swallow it during your MG trip. Does wonders for me, dude. With L-Arginine HBW never gives me muscle cramps anymore. Or your legs could have been sore if you were holding them in the wrong position for hours. Try getting a massage next time.
Have you ever tried HBW seeds? I was wondering how you'd compare MG to HBW. I hear the consensus is MG is more visual and stimulating than HBW which is more heavy, stoning and sedating. I also find HBW kicks in slower and has longer effects and a more pronounced body high. MG also caused me less mental confusion though HBW gave me a nice lovey dovey empathetic effect towards people (reminiscent of E). I'd say I prefer HBW to MG but only because it's easier to digest plus I know sources for excellent fresh HBW but only know of Burpee brand MG's at Wal-Mart. MG in general feels less toxic and more natural to my body than HBW.
I'm glad you straight up ate the MG rather than doing a silly extraction. Me and tons of other people can tell you how weak MG extracts are. There's no way an extract will have all the LSA's in it. Just as extracts of Kava or Kratom are no where near as euphoric and intense as eating the actual plants.
So, anyone tried rectal administration of HBW/MG lately. I hear the way to do it is mix the ground seeds in water and put in an enima bulb and squirt in ya ass, or put the ground seeds in capsules, lube your ass and slide da capsules in. However, most people have reported rectal doses were much weaker than oral. However, they say rectal doses DO lack the nausea and body load of oral doses.
I'm yet to try HBW rectally or sublingually myself. Supposedly sublingual HBW kicks in faster with little nausea. However, they say you need a far higher dose of HBW sublingually than orally for effect.
I'm thinking more and more that HBW and MG have very different alkaloid profiles. I also think the alkaloid profiles among diff. strains of MG and HBW differ. I notice distinctly different effects from one batch of MG or HBW to the next.
The people who think HBW and MG have the exact same alkaloid profiles are prob. the same ignorant people who don't even realize these seeds have many different alkaloids contributing to the effects NOT just the Ergine. Folks, I've used HBW many, many times (over 30 definitely) and MG around 10 times too so I'm very familiar with the full range of HBW/MG effects.
The fact some strains of HBW are MUCH more stimulating and clear headed and less heavy, stoning and sedating than other strains suggests very different alkaloid profiles. Also some HBW cause MUCH less nausea and cramps than others.
I notice a very distinct difference between the Hawaiian strain of HBW and the Madagascar strain. The Madagascar seeds were far more visual, giggly and lacked much, if any nausea.
For some reason no one other than me seems to be familiar with the effects of the Madagascar strain. Not only do few people seem to know about it but very few vendors carry it. Which is a shame because I found the Madagascar strain much more potent per seed than the Hawaiian type.
Right now I only can find a Dutch company selling the Madagascar HBW and they charge an OUTRAGEOUS price for shipping
I sure miss those Madagascar seeds, man. I have an enormous tolerance to the Hawaiian batches but I bet I'd still be sensitive to the Madagascar ones.
Folks, remember to store your MG/HBW in an airtighter container in a cold environment like the fridge or freezer. They'll maintain their potency much longer. Whereas, if you keep your seeds in a baggy that's not airtight in a room that gets very warm and gets lots of sunlight over time your seeds WILL weaken. And for all we know the seeds' alkaloids might also degrade into less desireable alkaloids, just as old Cannabis exposed to too much air degrades into CBN (which causes sleepiness and other undesireable effects).
I'm really glad to see more and more members of the psychonaut community turning on to MG/HBW/Rivea. I think you guys once you find the right batch and right way to ingest the seeds will find the seed trip can actually rival the best Psilocybin, Cid and Mescaline trips. Doubt me if you want but you'llll seee.
Just make sure not to abuse the seeds and have a nightmare trip that lands you in a confrontation with the cops or committed to the mental ward. If this kind of shit happened enough to stupid, young kids then law enforcement, the media and politicians would view HBW/MG/Rivea as a drug threat to our youth and conservative old farts would bitch until the seeds got banned. All it takes is a few whining, influential parents and media articles to lead to the seeds eventually getting banned. I mean, shit, MG/Rivea is ALREADY banned in Louisiana...did you guys know that?
Lucky for me I doubt I could ever have a bad HBW/MG trip as I can easily handle 25-30 of the best HBW seeds you can throw at me. Then, again, if I'm too arrogant and overconfident that could lead to a seed trip suddenly grabbing me by the balls and teaching me a lesson. Just as years ago I was cocky about thinking I could handle any dose of Psilocybin then one day I ate an eighth of EXTREMELY potent indoor grown Thai mushrooms and tripped balls to the wall.
Also, guys remember that preloading on fresh Ginger or Ginger Ale can reduce the nausea of HBW/MG. I am starting to wonder if the seeds make the stomach more acidic and gassy. I notice that when nauseous from HBW after hours of nausea I start burping and farting and suddenly all the nausea magically goes away. Perhaps a product like Gas-X could help the nausea.
I'll remind y'all once again of good substances to combine with HBW/MG/Rivea:
L-Arginine, Cannabis, Piracetam, MAOI's, Hydergine, Acetyl L-Carnitine, DL-Phenylalanine, Kratom, CoQ10, Opiates, 2CE, MDxx (only a low dose as it could increase the vasoconstriction), or Japanese Sweet Flag 5X extract (holla at me if you want to know who sells this stuff; it's only $10 an ounce and 3-4 grams is enough for good effects)
And I'm still extremely curious how preloading on Moclobemide or Deprenyl would potentiate HBW. What it be the same sort of MAO potentiation as Rue/Harmala or different and better? I hear Moclobemide has sooo much less body load than Rue and is stimulating. Rue pisses me off because it tastes horrible, can cause nausea, makes me feel heavy, sleepy and spaced out. So I'd love an MAO alternative.
Rue, Harmala and Moclobemide are MAO-a inhibitors as I recall and Deprenyl is an MAO-b inhibitor at low doses and MAO-a inhibitor at doses above 10 milligrams. So, theoretically, Moclobemide or Deprenyl should potentiate HBW/MG if it's MAO-a inhibition that potentiates the trip.
Do you guys think MAOs potentiate HBW/MG as much as they potentiate Psilocybin and DMT? Also, does anyone have experience with Rue or Harmala extracts, sounds like a much easier way to ingest them than eating them in their raw form.
Deprenyl might be risky to combine with HBW because it might raise one's blood pressure and pulse plus Deprenyl might cause vasoconstriction. Anyone know whether 10 mg of Deprenyl raises blood pressure/pulse much or causes vasoconstriction?
Also, people if you need a way to mellow out a HBW/MG experience try L-Theanine, Taurine, Niacinamide, Phenibut, GABOB, Opiates, GHB, Mulungu, Salvia miltiorrhiza or Kava.
Good luck on your seed trips, folks.
GODSPEED!
