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☛ Official ☚ The Big and Dandy DOI Thread

Well, DOI is a potent vasoconstrictor, so I'd say a lot is very dangerous. I wouldn't go above, say 6mg. Anyone else like to comment on this?

For a mind-cleanse, I'd go with something less... researchy... Like Mushrooms, LSD, or DMT or Mescaline...
 
thanks for the tip man. its appreciated. i got 4mg blotters i was gonna do 2 but ill knock it down to 1 and a half. take care and ill report back about the tripp.
 
with no tolerance, 6mgs would almost definetely be all you would need of the material for a mind cleanse. 4mgs is a very intense mind cleansing trip for me even with a bit of tolerance.
 
Anyone have experience with different routes of admin?
I see some speaking of snorting DOI, how did that go? Hopefully it isn't as painful as snorting a 2C.
Has anyone got experience with rectal or IV admin? Dosage differences or come up/down time differences of particular interest.
 
I wouldnt IV DOI unless you're extremely experienced. The DOx compounds are extremely potent and intense, so IVing even a super low dose would blast you into a new world in such an extreme manner that the potential for things going wrong is mighty high.

Not to mention the fact that it'd become extremely dose sensative, and with a chem that's already dose sensative, it'd be very hard to guage the right amount to be safe and comfortable.
 
Good advice for sure but it does leave my questions unanswered.
I'm not looking to dive in the deep end. Hoping to get some experienced advice to help address the points you've raised.
Dose for IV might well be quite low then again it may not be, I'm not sure of the oral bioavailability of DOI or any other ROA for this chem.
Depending on what an IV dose should be it may well require sensitive, calibrated scales. Even oral doses need fairly good ones though.

Does anyone know of DOI research on people? My googling didn't work so good.
I know it's a well researched chem but I'm unsure on human studies.

Any help or more points of concern are most welcome.
 
I tried 1mg of pure DOI ! And it's always pretty strong to me ! I'm very sensitive to every psychedelics but i'm rather sensitive to DOI ! Very sensitive to this chemical :)

1mg for me -> 14h of tripping with wall breathing, mind fuck, fast heart beat and crazy stuff :P

2mg or 3mg will kill me ! :D (maybe because of my skinny profile)

Peace Out !

I also saw DOI blotter but afraid to touch it since i don't know the dosage on it ! :)
 
I wanted to take a minute to let everyone know in each of the substance Big and Dandies about the community project of the PD forum which has been being worked on for the past 2 years or so, the Psychedelic Effects Profile survey. This survey asks you a number of questions, starting with the substance taken, the dose, the method of administration, other substances (non-psychedelic) ingested during the trip, and set and setting, and then it goes on to ask about a variety of specific effects, and you can select whether or not you experienced them and if so, the intensity level of that effect on a 5-point scale.

Thank you for your help with this! For this to be of any use whatsoever, we need as many responses as we can possibly get, so please take it as many times as you have time for, for as many substances as you have had proper trips on. We want to gather the full range of effects possible so feel free to take it for positive as well as negative experiences, for earth-shattering and average. Each time taking the survey is for a single trip on a single substance - no combinations please, as it taints the data for each substance. In the future I may make another survey for combinations. The survey takes about 5 minutes to get through so it's not too much of your time.

For further discussion of this project, please see the stickied thread at the top of the forum that starts with "Community Project". To take the survey, please click on this link: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=hvw6fx9mmvzz82l599169

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The first 6-8 hours for me on this stuff is creative fury. After that tho I would start to get a headache. Clonazepam always solved that sort of head ache best. Sometimes I had them, sometimes I resorted to84% kavalactone kava kava pills, which help but kava always seems to augment phenethylamines for me, which wasn't always what I wanted after the first 12 hours. Recently I've dicsovered that honokiol 98% powder works nearly as effective on that sort of headache for me, so I have been tempted to try my old stash o DOI out again and see if it helps with the face/head ache thing I get from being stimulated for so long...it's a great first half of the experience...it's just winding down on it is tough for me. Def need the next day maybe 2 off. The time frame on this one makes it tough...but I also been wondering how well 2c-c would merge into the second half of the experience for me too...seems like it would boost the areas that were achy and tensed out with some body glow and renewed psychedelic vigor to help ride out the DOI residual effects. I guess I will have to find out for myself one day soon...
 
If you do, please report! I'm interested in how 2C-C mixes with it as well because 2C-C seems to augment other psychedelics in a unique way.

I once combined 2C-I with DOC after about 8 hours on it and it really worked quite well as a booster and body high increaser.
 
I guess I'll post my thoughts on DOI. I had 50 mg to play with. I didn't really like it that much. There was much more stimulation than psychedelia for me. I don't know if my DOI was weak or what but I needed a lot more than the doses listed in pihkal to lift off. I once took 10 mg and then 3 hours later 4 mg more and still wasn't happy with where I was at.

EDIT: Hmmm... well I was thinking about this and my material was definitely active at the 1 -2 mg range. In fact I took it at that dose a couple times and just went about my day. Those couple days I did that were probably my favorite experience with DOI. No visuals, just a slight change in perception and some stimulation.

The stimulation was so much at times it reminded me of taking too much MDMA or Adderall and not being able to focus on anything. I couldn't read a paragraph or even think. Very scatterbrained.

Visuals would last about 8 hours for me and then the rest would just be the stimulation and the body high. My muscles would be very tense and aching by the end of the experience.

I liked DOC much, much better. DOC was much more psychedelic. I felt much more creative energy flowing through me on DOC. On DOI I just felt rather stupid. After 4 trips or so I gave the rest of my stash away.
 
Yeah, low doses with DOXs are really great I find. DOC is by FAR the best one for this. It makes a day-long glowing state that just feels so zen and wonderful and content and loving (this is DOC). Plus DOC is much more psychedelic overall, and especially at higher doses.

I agree with your assessment of DOI. For me, it made me feel kind of... like a super-generic trip without the revelations, just the feelings. And once it gave me a really nasty and frightening racing heartbeat that had me really worried. Not one of my favorites and I doubt I'll ever have it agai.

DOC, on the other hand... is my favorite psychedelic for non-spiritual purposes (recreation and/or working through life problems), and it's also up there for spiritual purposes at higher dosages.
 
I have questions about DOI.
I'm a bit unexperimented with high dose but anyways i'm pretty skinny and i wan't to know if DOI is active @0.5mg and how the trip look like ?

From how many x mgs DOI brings visuals ? And also how about the bodyload ? Is it "dangerous" ? And from xx mgs the bodyload can be feeled ?

Sorry for my stupid question, but my last DOI trip was a long time ago and don't remember the effects and the dosage.

And + i'm skinny and don't want to harm myself with DOI ! :D

Thank you
 
HofmannBlotter said:
I have questions about DOI.
I'm a bit unexperimented with high dose but anyways i'm pretty skinny and i wan't to know if DOI is active @0.5mg and how the trip look like ?

From how many x mgs DOI brings visuals ? And also how about the bodyload ? Is it "dangerous" ? And from xx mgs the bodyload can be feeled ?

Sorry for my stupid question, but my last DOI trip was a long time ago and don't remember the effects and the dosage.

And + i'm skinny and don't want to harm myself with DOI ! :D

Thank you
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DOI is definitely active at .5mg, but it's not really a trip at that dosage... more like an all-day serotonergic stimulant. I like low-dose DOXs very much but DOC is the best one. In my experience DOI is mediocre. But some people like it the best so your mileage may vary.

The dosage for visuals varies. I'd say 2mg would start it, and 2-3mg would be a standard full-n trip dose. Always start low because DOI lasts a LONG time, easily up to 30 hours (over a whole day, for real).

DOI can be dangerous because it increases heart rate more than many of the DOXs. I once had my heart race so fast I was scared for a couple of hours, when I was trying to go to sleep. I took 4-5mg over the course of the day,so it was a pretty high dose, but I have taken 12mg of DOC over the course of a day without a racing heart at all.
 
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