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The Big and Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread (Archive 3-19-07 - 4-12-08)

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Its not cut with mescaline. Mesc isn't sold other than as cactus, or as processed cactus from a friend.

And a word of warning: Don't try mescaline with alcohol. I had to babysit a friend who passed out on the subway when it started to hit, and then went beserk, screaming at innocent people, crying, raising a huge scene, etc. The friend is experienced with drugs, too.
 
Is there a minimum age for a cactus to start producing mescaline?

Also, which sections of the cacti (peyote, San Pedro,..) contain the mesacaline? Is it the skin, the flesh or the core?
 
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can someone point me in the direction of a good san pedro mescaline extraction process? thank you.
 
quasar987 said:
Is there a minimum age for a cactus to start producing mescaline?

Also, which sections of the cacti (peyote, San Pedro,..) contain the mesacaline? Is it the skin, the flesh or the core?
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not sure, but I'm told under perfect conditions, they take at least 5 years to mature, so I imagine the time it takes them to start producing mescaline is quite some time. I can't imagine taking care of a cactus for 5+ years, thats way too much time for something to go wrong.
 
Ok I dried up some San Pedro, it is completely dry and hard and was wondering if it makes a difference whether it is totally in powder form or not before consumption. Does anyody have any experience with this? Will it break down in the stomach or just pass through partially digested? It is in small pieces with a lot of powder. I don't really have any tools right now to pulverize it.
 
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I have AFOAF who said he was selling "mdma cut with mescaline". Have any of you ever encountered something like this?
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The tabs are called "blue notes". I had 14 of these over a period of about a week. Had the coolest visuals I've ever had including things like seeing 16th century pirates ghost walking through my house "pirates of the carrabian" style. They're not very good pills unless you've got strength in numbers.=D
 
I was about to try ordering some fresh Peruvian Torch cuttings, I was wondering what length people usually use
 
If it means anything, I read in a an erowid trip report about a guy who ate 1 feet peruvian and 1 feet san pedro and tripped pretty hard and good. His friend ate 1 feet san pedro and tripped but as much.
 
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I was about to try ordering some fresh Peruvian Torch cuttings, I was wondering what length people usually use
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that depends on how thick the cuttings are. it makes more sense to buy by weight.

basically buy as much as you can reasonably afford (a few pounds fresh), then slice/dry/weigh and for PT test it at about 20g dry to start.
 
I really like a nice low dose of 6-8 grams of dried torch as a mood enhancer. It lasts the whole day and towards the end I tend to get nicely communicative.

If growing from seed, it can take about five years for a san pedro/ peruvian torch to mature but plants grown from cuttings are "ready to use" but that would really be a waste since they grow very quickly and cultivating enough plants for occasional use for the rest of ones life isn't difficult.

Typical dosage of peruvian torch dried chips from peru is 25-30 grams.

Personally, I just chew the chips a bit till they are moist and chewy and then swallow. The stomach does an excellent job of getting the mescaline out of the cactus chips.

Concentrations of mescaline are greatest in the outer green portion just under the tough outer skin but is also found in the white material below that and that portion shouldn't be thrown away. The dried chips of cactus tend to be mainly the green portion so these chips contain about the same amount of mescaline as peyote (minus the many other alks in peyote).

Strains of cactus show considerable variation of potency. Potency is said to vary according to the time of year as well.

There are many positive reports of san pedro and rue.

Cactii is wonderful and extremely kind but higher doses can be very nauseating. Some people are more sensitive than others.

Cacti can be stored and maintain potency indefinitely.

Trouts notes kicks ass.
 
I found in my experience mescaline (san pedro) is really gentle, warm, but can also be very powerful.
san pedro syrup can be hard to drink, but it's not that bad.
The come up was smooth. Everything had a multicolored glow to it. For me it wasn't a "mindfuck" or very insightful, but very chill and very beautiful.
Sort of a light MDMA body high, gentle, colorful visuals (but not too many patterns, or specific shapes/forms.) Mostly just a multicolored glow, during the peak colors drifted though my vision, little blobs. Also the ceiling concaved out like a dome, and the colors gentle shifted about. The peak lasted around 5-6 hours and the high slowly faded away. The come down was extremely smooth. I never felt unsatisfied or wanting more. And I was able to sleep a full nights sleep after about 1-2 hours of coming down.

I'd say fuck waiting for cid of mushies to come around, just get some san pedro. it's not the easiest thing to drink the tea, but it can be a rewarding experience
 
San Pedro Cactus (mescaline) Help !

I've managed to get a nice and thick, 15 inch long san pedro cactus clipping. What is the best way to extract and prepare it for consumption! Do I boil it into a tea or what. Cheers in advance !
 
check out the nook.org specifically the ionic chemical lab part and go to the pinned thead section of that ull find something that works :D later
 
San Pedro tea shelf life

I was making some san pedro tea from atleast 2 foot of San Pedro cactus 2 days ago. It took longer than I thought to boil down because I was worried I would overheat it, I havent done this before. I now have about 1 litre of green liquid in my mates fridge.

Will this last till the weekend so I can re-boil it again to bring the volume down? Will this cause any problems?

I had planned to boil it down to like half a cup or so then freezing it in ice blocks till I wanted to use it. Would that have worked? I thought it was a good idea.

Also would that be enough cactus to reasonably dose 2 people? I didnt measure it and Im bad with eyeing lengths but Id say it was at least 2 ft.

Sorry for all the questions but I didnt find an answer to the shelf life one and thats my biggest worry at the moment as time is ticking.

Thanks peoples
 
Shelf-life is no problem, as long as you reboil it any nasties will be killed.

Freezing should work.

BTW, have you actually tasted san pedro tea yet? Before spending too much time reboiling and freezing, take a sip and see whether you think you could drink a cup of it. I spent a week "preparing" san pedro once and then took one sip and threw the rest in the bin.
 
Screwed up san pedro a/b extraction

(this probably should belong in the big and dandy mescaline/ san pedro thread. i just would prefer to post this anonymously as to not incriminate myself. I really appreciate any help.)

I did an acid base extraction using tea i made from 2 feet of san pedro. Everything went fine, up until the salting stage. Following a tek i found on another forum, i used WAY WAY WAY too much sulfuric acid in the salting phase. Not like some teks that show the crystal being a little red from too much acid, this stuff if black/dark brown at best. (Now i know I should have just used alot less sulfuric acid, or used HCI.)

Now all i'm left with is a bunch of blackish goo, that is incredibly hard to evaporate. The goo is the texture of similar to wet resin. I've been attempting to evaporate this stuff for almost 3 days now, with limited success. 8) One evap dish provided some blackish stuff that was able to be scraped up, but was still damp, and looked like it was trying to crystalize, but it's damn near impossible to get the moisture out of it.

I have 2 main questions
1.) is this stuff safe to use, once i get the majority of my sulfuric acid goo somewhat dry?
2.) if this stuff is not safe is there anything i can do?

Anyone have something similar happen, that they were able to salvage?

I've tried a heated fan, dehumidifier, a light at close range, and putting it in the oven @ around 100-150 degrees fahrenheit for several hours.
If i fucked up beyond repair no need to flame me...I'll just chalk it up to experience.:\
any help would be greatly appreciated. or if there are any links to send me in a better direction that'd be awesome. I just put a lot of money into this and i'm not yet ready to give up.
 
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