The Big and Dandy Basic LSD (acid) Questions Thread (First archived 10-31-07)

[ex-amine]

for comming down : haldol , risperdal , any downer (valium till roofies).
or 4 grams of vitamine B3. (says R.A.Wilson)

 

[purpledingo]

Are there ANY psychedelic drugs/chems (2c*/DO*/etc etc) that can be sold as lsd
that would also be effective when absorbed sublingually?

 

[ski wampas]

so for an acid trip any recommendations of activities or good things to do if i'm not completely destroyed on the floor and how long can a normal trip last on average?

if your town has a planetarium that does a pink floyd laser show, than i highly reccomend doing that.

certain video games and movies are fun to trip with too. there are a variety of visual and sensual stimuli that people have provided in a variety of media forms for people who arent into the whole introspective mind altering religiouse thing... personally thats why i got into doing psychedelics.

L is the best for that... for me. it can go either way for anyone i guess... but thats all stuff this thread seems to have already covered so i'll avoid being repetitious.

 

[Youkai]

Are there ANY psychedelic drugs/chems (2c*/DO*/etc etc) that can be sold as lsd
that would also be effective when absorbed sublingually?

all of them if Im not mistaken. sublingualy just means that it can be absorbed under the tounge.

how long it will take for the full active dose is another question though.



edit, if you are asking if these could be put on blotter then there are only a few. most of the psychedelic amphetamines, and 5meo mipt and 5meo amt could also fit onto a piece of blotter. though someone may say 5meo mipt wouldnt, Im pretty sure I could fit it into a piece of thick water color paper, 5mg is enough for a full on experience.

 

[purpledingo]

Ok, yea thats kind of what im getting at...

if something besides real lsd could fit on blotter
and, if it ALSO could be absorbed sublingually

which is under the tongue or in a mucus membrane
but NOT SWALLOWED into the digestive tract
(as with real LSD consumption into the stomach is unnecessary)

but i went to erowid,
and checked 5meoamt and couldnt find notes on sublingual administration

Im not suggesting it isnt there, im just saying i cant find it if it is
can anyone verify and provide source references? thanks

 

[Youkai]

Ok, yea thats kind of what im getting at...

if something besides real lsd could fit on blotter
and, if it ALSO could be absorbed sublingually

which is under the tongue or in a mucus membrane
but NOT SWALLOWED into the digestive tract
(as with real LSD consumption into the stomach is unnecessary)

but i went to erowid,
and checked 5meoamt and couldnt find notes on sublingual administration

Im not suggesting it isnt there, im just saying i cant find it if it is
can anyone verify and provide source references? thanks

I have personal experience that alpha O can be placed under the tounge for effects, not to mention tehre has been quite a few tested blotters to have been this same chemical.

 

[swilow]

Can't most substances be absorbed sublingually? It is not the oral route, it absorbs via blood vessels and membranes beneath the tongue, correct? So its just another way of increasing bioavailability.....

 

[Youkai]

Can't most substances be absorbed sublingually? It is not the oral route, it absorbs via blood vessels and membranes beneath the tongue, correct? So its just another way of increasing bioavailability.....

basicly, its the same as sticking it up your butt or snorting.

 

[eye kant spehll]

No, good question though.

There have been a few times when I have taken a large dose (probably more than I was willing for) and have started drinking water under the pretense of 'well, if it does destroy it, maybe that's a good thing' or something like that. I have knowingly done this with geltabs, liquid, liquid on stuff and blotter with no difference...I always tripped (though it is possible it was slightly lighter). Frankly, I've heard you can put liquid in a bottle of tap water then pass it around with little notice in potency difference (as long as done fast...though would never chance it with my own supply).

dude noone else saw this? please dont listen 2 this guy....LSD fuckin is destroyed by the chlorine in water....and anyways y dilute the cid into fuckin water....i mean spread the potent love not the watered down love. If you are determined to decrease such a nice substances potency....PLZ fuckin use DISTILLED WATER ONLY. Thanx

late

 

[delta_9]

I had this idea I'm sure has come up here before but I'm too lazy to search right now cause I'm fuckin blown. Anyway, has anyone dropped liquid acid on dried psilocybe mushrooms and ate them? If yes, did you like it? Me and my friend are getting a p of some shrooms and I wanted to think of a way to have more than just the average shroom trip.

 

[purpledingo]

I started using lsd recreationally in 1989
and the way I was 'taught' by the heads i grew up with
was to just take a hit of blotter and put it on my tongue,
move it around my mouth for a minimum of 10 seconds
and then spit the tab out or
keep chewing or stomach it which was popular
at the time but also openly and common acknowledged as 'unnecessary'
still it was deemed the thing to do if you wanted 'to get every last bit'

The first time I tried lsd I swallowed that paper after frenching it for 5minutes
and i got some stomach discomfort which might have beein coincidence
but I was only 16 at the time so I decided it was the blotter papers fault

the next time I took lsd I only kept it on my tongue for 10 seconds
then spit the tab out on the great lawn of central park
and i tripped balls!!!

much harder than I wouldve liked for my second trip anyway
and every time from then on ive used this method of ingestion
Im wondering if maybe the reason there is such a 'fast' absorption
of lsd into the body maybe because
there is really so little LSD that needs to be absorbed?

anyway that makes sense to me,
and with all the adulterated product and
rc's being sold as acid lately
I think this ingestion method maybe unfamiliar to some of the new skoolers
and id thought id share my experiece with everyone.

If you are unsure of this method then save your tab after spitting it out
but i assure you that if its actual LSD.. you wont need it later

Im hoping that by sticking with my 10second rule
and possibly also testing a tab from the same sheet w/ ehrlich reagent
i might avoid being duped into buying DOx or whateva else floats round

 

[eye kant spehll]

whether or not u said 2 do it uick is besides the point...i jus tdont want dumbasses takin their dank vails and squirting tap water in em....cuz results are pretty much devastating...so take my word and dont get fuckin tap water within 10 feet of acid ! use distilled kidos....this is your only solution to dilute something that need not dilute. this is dumb because we shouldnt even consider diluting something especially after it's gonne thru other hands who prolly diluted it aswell

 

[ControlDenied]

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[e1evene1even]

LSD Test Kits

I have some blotters I suspect are not LSD and I would like to test them to confirm. I also have access to a *very* limited amount of known LSD I would to also test to compare the reactions and obviously would like to use as little as I have to.

The test I was looking at buying is this one:
http://www.testclear.com/LSD-Identi...UserID=1908801&SessionID=4CEa8viTlRAOPW5S3Hus

My main question is whether or not these tests with work on a single tab, or if they require more than that? Has anyone successfully used this test?

I also found this test:
http://shop.armorforensics.com/mm5/...GY&Store_Code=RedWop&Category_Code=narcopouch

but I personally hesitate to purchase from that company, since their main customers are likely LE and I wouldn't be surprised if LSD test kits are a 'watched' item or some sort.

I'm also open to any other alternatives. thanks

 

[Bercilak]

My main question is whether or not these tests with work on a single tab, or if they require more than that? Has anyone successfully used this test?

I haven't used one personally, but I think they'd work on even less than that. The problem is that Ehrlich's reagent isn't perfect. You won't be able to distinguish between LSD and 5-MeO-AMT, and I don't know how it responds to DOx.

 

[e1evene1even]

thanks, so nobody has ever used an LSD test?

I would think that if the results are valid enough to be used in a court of law (as the site states) it would have to be able to tell between LSD and DOx/5-Meo-AMT/br-dragonfly etc...

 

[Jabberwocky]

You could tease apart 5-meo-AMT from DOx by doing a marquis reaction on it. If its 5-MeO-AMT it will turn black (as all 5-Meo's do) and DOx will turn (I forget) green(?).

I've never heard of anybody doing a test on paper though...I don't know if there's enough LSD to react with the reagent (esp if the blotter is weak). I think they use the reagent to test liquid though.

 

[e1evene1even]

well it seems its not such a "basic" question after all : )
Anyway I just ordered a test kit (the testclear one) and will report back on the results...

 

[lastnight]

i'm sorry if either of these questions have already been asked -
i haven't been able to come across the answers...

friday night i dropped one roll, one blotter of DOI (i'm not sure what the dose was), and had a few relatively small bumps of k. i have 2 blotters of lsd, and was thinking about taking one tonight (for a little meditation and healing). will my friday night usage detract from the effects of the lsd? in other words, is it a waste to eat it tonight?

secondly, i've got an appointment in 11 hours which i need to drive to. i'm aware that lsd usually lasts 8-12 hours, but are the effects at 12h strong enough that i shouldn't consider driving? i've got a prescription for ativan (lorazepam) - will this work as an 'abort' if my trip lasts for too long? should i not even consider taking lsd if i've got to be driving in 11 hours?

any input is appreciated
thanks!


edit::
i've also got zyprexa left over from a few months ago. i've read that taking an anti-psychotic will stop a trip dead - true?

 

[Xorkoth]

Do not take the LSD today (too late with this advice, I know). If you need to drive in 11 hours, then absolutely do not... that's a very bad idea. It will not have worn off enough for that to be safe.

Besides that, if you took some psychedelics on Friday, you will have some sort of tolerance built up. Not a lot, but phens and tryptamines do produce cross-tolerance. Best to wait at least a week.