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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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Help?!?! said:
Been thinking of consuming some 4-aco and 2c-e together. I figure i'll just do 15 mgs of each. Since 4-aco effects begins quicker I figured I would have to dose it at around T + 1 h 15 minutes after the 2c-e. Do you guys think that they should kick in similarly taken that way?
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When I combined the two, I dosed the 2C-E nasally (as that gives them a similar duration), and dosed it about 1 hour 30 minutes into the trip, it worked really well and the effects wore off about the same time.

Edit: Almost forgot to add, if you do go with the nasal route for the 2C-E then lower the dose substantially, you should be dosing half or less)
 
I think this might be the first one i want to try, until i get a reliable online source im not trying anything though.
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This IS the best RC, in my opinion. It doesn't "feel" like an RC, if you know what I mean. It feels like it is supposed to be up there with LSD/mushrooms/DMT. Very great and versatile compound.

If you have the fumarate salt (which I assume you do), I have kept it at room temp. in the dark and airtight for 1-2 years with no noticeable degradation.

What would people say the threshold fose is for a full experience where your not underwhelmed on this is?
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Somewhere between 10 and 15mg of the fumarate salt, depending on sensitivity/body weight.
 
Yeah I've done around 15mg and I tripped balls for a little while and it was very pleasant.

Now that was during the week from the 13th to the 19th, in which I experimented with several different dose sizes every single day for a week. But I think I skipped a day then did those 15mg and went to la-la land.

I know I have to take a full 20mg trip soon, I'm just not sure when. Gonna stick to ~10mg doses for now. Skipped two days by not doing it last night or tonight. Might be taking a little during the afternoon or evening today.

I really do like it. I cannot function in social situations with sober people on any decent amount though. It's not like it makes me trippy, but it makes me not want to interact.
 
A friend of a friend was saying that he took 20 mg of the fumarate last night and didn't get high!

I'm quite positive he is full of shit, I'm just wondering what the possibility is that he might have not felt anything with 20 mg for his first dose.

He claims he hadn't taken any shrooms for a week prior and he claimed he didn't get anything when I saw him around 3.5 hours after dropping.


Anyone else need large doses to get effects from 4-AcO-DMT?

Or completely full of shit?
 
It could be tolerance or it could just be the sheer fact that it's a RC and people reacts differently to these substances.

Has he had any previous experiences with 4-AcO-DMT?
 
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That was hist first time, he might have been drunk but I dont think that would cancel out ALL effects. He claimed he was feeling NOTHING to my buddy that gave it to him. Meanwhile another friend of mine had a slightly overwhelming trip with the same dose last week.

I know YMMV and all, but this just doesn't seem realistic...
 
Ok. I thought you meant an underwhelming experience.

It sounds weird that he didn't feel anything at all.
 
Ya, I'll have to get all the details from him and see what's going on. 15 mg from the same bag had my friend tripping balls at Cirque du Soleil tonight. 20 mg had my friend feeling a little off and a little overwhelmed last week. 2 weeks ago 25 mg had my friend tripping harder than he had ever tripped off of up to 7 grams of shrooms. And now 20 mg for this gy equals no effects?

I've been calling bullshit all along, I was just wondering if anyone has experienced or heard of anyone with crazy natural tolerance to 4-AcO-DMT

thanks
 
Somewhat tall and slender. Not adding up.

Has anyone had significant tolerance to this compound to the point that more than 20 mg was needed to notice any effects?

I have yet to see any evidence to support this extreme difference in reaction betwen different people in terms of 4-AcO-DMT.

The last time someone kept on saying they weren't getting high from rather large doses of psychedelics, they ended up getting caught in a time loop on 4-HO-DiPT and had a negative experience. They were using 2C-E on a regular basis in doses of 20 to 25 mg usually. After the negative experience on 4-HO-DiPT he then decided to do 2C-E two days later and finally cracked, experiencing the exact same time loop and understanding that reality is an illusion.

Turned out he is schizophrenic and was specifically told years ago not to ever do psychedelics.
 
Greetings everyone. This thread inspired me to finally make an account :]

I wanted to share my experiences with this compound:

I first tried 12 mg of 4-aco-DMT and had wonderful visuals and a great body high for 1.5 hours.

Five days later, I took about 13 mg and felt nothing for an hour. I then snorted about 6 mg, waited 10 minutes, and felt nothing. I then licked up about 7 mg and swished it in my mouth with water. I ingested about 26 mg in one hour, and proceeded to trip harder than I ever have in my life for over 6 hours.

I don't know if tolerance was an issue here, but I was wondering if other people have had a chance to experiment more and learn more about how tolerance to this compound builds up.
 
There is definitely not enough known about this substance and it's interactions with things people may eat or drink or other chemicals they may take.

Maybe it had to do with food or water? I find that for me personally, if I eat something after fasting it will have almost no effect until I drink and/or eat food. I haven't quite pegged it yet, but these days I make sure to drink some water and eat a little something right when I dose to make sure that my stomach gets to work on it.

I have to be particularly careful because I have bad heartburn and neither fasting nor taking it around the time I take an antacid work out too well.
 
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Is the inssulfated 4 aco DMT trip much shorter or different than the oral trip with the same dosage. Debating wether to try this one oral or inssulfated first. I have more experience with inssulfating RC's and never really tried oral. Is some of the substance broken down and "wasted" when absorbed in the stomache?
 
Can anyone speculate on:

1) Shelf life (if stored cool dry dark)
2) Tolerance, eg if you did 3 weekends in a row would it kinda stop working?
 
Well i just first experimented with this chem last weekend. I tripped on mushrooms about 7 days prior to the first experience.

I started with 12mg and waited about an hour and was tripping a little bit, but nothing mind-blowing. I sniffed 6mg, waited a half hour and sniffed another 6mg. Total of 24mg. Never really had any mind blowing trip. It doesn't really feel like shrooms, but it would equal maybe 1.5g of decent shrooms as something to compare it to.

I ended up trying 30mg the next day, and got about equal effects. I'm gonna try again this Saturday i think with a 20mg dose, which will give 7 days. Mine is a darker colorer powder. It's kinda off-white, but I think it may be a little to dark. So far I haven't really seen anything to awesome, but did get a great body buzz for a while to.
 
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