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The Big and Dandy 4-AcO-DMT thread - New incarnation

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anamnesis said:
Err, see, every time I start light and work up to heavy doses I realize that I indeed could've just taken the heavy dose to start and saved my self a lot of wasted time:( , I'll put it in perspective:
2C-I: 24mg w./ 18mg supplement later
LSD: 4-10 blotter hits in one dose (10 is REALLY alot, I know)
P. Cubensis: 5-7g
2C-T-2: 24mg
2C-T-7: 36 mg (too low for me)
4-AcO-DiPT: 32mg

etc etc....I take psychedelics for numinous reasons, magic, spirituality, opening/rebalancing chakras etc.


Above Papa posted: 20mg

A night of sanely and calmly exploring the cosmic limits of thought. Wow.

Well, I prefer to go past the limits of thought, opening those doors to the invisible landscape....

Anyone gone higher than 20mg, but lower than 100mg?
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I feel the same most of the time when it comes to taking a new substance, I tend to jump off hte deep end and take a high dose, I beleive my mental will to be extremely strong and so far ive been able to handle everything I've put myself through. 20mg was all I took for my first exprience with 4-aco-dmt, however i could have easily handled more, it just wasnt avaliable to me at the time. as for 36mg of 2C-T-7, my first expirience i tried taking 20mg hearing it was a pretty intense substance, 2 hours had past and i felt nothing, I then proceeded to take 2 tabs of acid nd shortly after was offered anothe 10mg of t-7. this was by far the most intense trip I have ever had under any substance. i was not myself at this point and reality was completely lost. I dont know what any more would have done to me, but i feel as if it would not have mattered. the state of mind i was in was so far from reality that I dont think i would have noticed any difference, only that the durration of the peak expirience woudl have lasted much longer. I don't really beleive in starting in small doses and working my way up, that just takes time, money and resources that are not always avaliable. I don't beleive you shoudl over do it, however I preffer to take a strong or high dosage for my first time with a substance rather than a low dose. Its easier to study and know the ctuall effects of a substance this way. if you dont take enough you can often time leave symptoms behind and they wont go noticed, then when you do decide to take more you may getyourself into something you werent prepared for because of an effect you missed from tking a lower dose the first time.
 
I've tried it at 12 and 16mg, both were fun, but not all that intense. Lots of color intensification, some trails, a big cheesey grin, some pretty strange thought patterns, and music was greatly enhanced.

Gonna do 25 next time I get a chance. Hopefully before too long
 
I tried it for my first time last saturday. Went with 36mg, and it was quite the experience, just me alone in the dark, entity contact of some sort, such energy, never experienced time distortion like this before: there was no time, it was like what time is to the Godhead--Kairos Time....I could go on, but my main point is that I just don't see how 20mg or less would be enough (for me), though at moments 36mg was almost too much info coming in at me all at once, but when I rebalanced my self it was fine--once the feel for the material is gained deeper much higher doses should be fine.
 
Not sure if this is specific to 4-aco-dmt or not, but I'll try posting it here first.

I have a problem. The problem is that 4-aco-dmt makes me cold. This has happened the last three times I've taken 4-aco-dmt, and I've gotten cold to the point of shivering and teeth chattering. Blankets, long underwear and extra socks don't help. It's made the trips largely negative: the first time was definitely down, and despite my best intentions I spent most of the time wondering what the f was going on, if I had taken too much, a different substance, paranoia, delusions of death, etc. I got cold an hour after taking it and warmed up soon after the peak was over. However, it was winter, it was legitimately cold outside, so I wrote it off. I tried a second time and similar results. I just recently tried a *third* time and the same thing, cold, although with partial warmth rescue: I spent an hour trying to warm up, confusedly putting on sweaters, etc., until I made myself a cup of tea and, finally warming, merrily hugged the kettle; the tea warmed me up and I spent an hour in front of the mirror making 'warm' jokes. So that's good. However, I'm now hesitant to try the substance again, and that's bad.

So. Cold. Does anyone else have similar experiences with tripping affecting body temperature? Anything specific to 4-aco-dmt? I've never experience this on other psychedelics, even in situations where being cold could be expected (e.g. outside in the snow). Any tips? Suggestions? Maybe an obvious answer is to just make more pots of tea, but I'd like to know more about what's going before I hit my head against the wall again.
 
4-AcO-DMT is very similar to psilocin right? I get extreme temperature changes while on shrooms. Usually drinking warm and sitting near fire is good. Blankets don't really help and feel weird.
 
I get cold on the comeups but usually it goes away once the peak begins. How about instead of bundling up, take off some clothes and sit right next to a fireplace or a space heater so that you can feel the heat against your skin. And warm tea is a great idea too.
 
I sometimes get a bit chilly on shrooms, at the end side of the trip. Then it's nice to wrap yourself with a blanket and drink hot chocolate.
 
Huh, okay, glad to know this is normal. I never got it before this.

Thanks :)
 
I wonder how well this would mix with 2c-b and if they could be pressed together? Probably expensive to do but damn that could be fun.
 
it mixes really really well with 2c-c.
I noticed that 4-aco-dmt has a very relaxing almost disassociate effect to it.
When taken at high doses. I have only taken this stuff in high doses... so...

the 2c-c has a very relaxing//almost aphrodisiac sleepiness to it, which synergizes incredibly well with the disassociate effect.
the 2c-c also totally helps to inject color into the ethereal 4-aco-dmt hallucinations. That which was "bland" to some of you now almost became a little bit too colorful for me.

i took 40mgs of 2c-c and 40mgs of 4-aco-dmt.
Listened to music, ventured deep into the mind.
Ultimately a very serene and peaceful trip.
 
Does this stuff make anyone else feel tired/sleepy/lethargic?

My friend recently used 18mg and felt somewhat sedated, even more so than with mushrooms.
 
^Yes. I find the urge to lie down and close my eyes a little similar to ayahuasca.
 
it depends for me. I've used it alone and just layed on my couch and spaced the fuck out. I've also taken it at a concert and while catching some of my friends band play in a bar, both of those times i've had plenty of energy. Combination with mdma is also quite enjoyable
 
Has anyone tried 4-aco-dmt with moclobemide?

It's typically my MAOI of choice, and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work as well as with mushrooms, but are there any reports of it being tried? If not, I still fully intend to try it when I have the time.
 
thats the first effing thing i thought.
Believe me, i am a very atomic hard head when it comes to mushrooms.
i found 100mgs of 4-aco-dmt too subtle compared to a half ounce of mushrooms.
But moclobemide would probably definatly amp the freqency of it some kind of twistedly profound heights....

Many of which i would care to indulge in.
 
willnavidson said:
just curious, has anyone tried combining this with 2C-E?
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No, but I'm sure it would lead to a surprising reaction regardless of the direction the trip is going in... That's for sure 8o =D Uhm yeah, expect endless tunnels of introspective thought, in 3D neon-fractal vision of course! ...I mean, What else would you expect from combining two alchemical fuses of such potency?
 
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