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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV

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great into mr blonde, i completely agree with you about
the boring reading experience off people who abuse benzodiazepines.

i'm a person who suffers from genuine anxiety and panic attacks
and need's alprazolam to function, i've been to 5 separate gp's this
week trying to get some and all have denied me, what maggots they
truly are, they get into the profession to help people? Don't think so
because they sure don't wanna help me they just let me bleed on the floor.
 
5 different GP's?

Dude, you don't walk in to a doctor's office, saying that you want 'Xanax'. The word Xanax immediately triggers alarm bells.

I'm sure that they were all maggots, but maggots who don't want to risk their livelihood i.e. prescribing YOU a potentially addictive/destructive drug as Xanax is.

Mods, legitimately trying to help this man get the right treatment, rather than promoting various ways for him to receive his Xanax would be a rule broken under the no sources outlined on the forum title page, wouldn't it be?
 
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yes friends i'm aware that you can't source drugs on this forum
it's against the rules, hence why i don't ask for advice, but sharing
my legitimate experiences is okay isn't it? And it's true i've been thru
5 gp's this week, and all have turned me down the sick bastards......

as far as i'm concerned they can all burn in hell for eternity...........
 
^^ nice attitude...

ever thought of givin the alternative options for anxiety a try instead of winging on the net how your GP wont script you benzos?
 
pisspotnrock said:
^^ nice attitude...

ever thought of givin the alternative options for anxiety a try instead of winging on the net how your GP wont script you benzos?
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yeah well i am on anti-depressents they definitely help but the
beauty of xanax is that you take it as needed, ie: before a meeting.

By the way i can totally relate to what other people have said about
not being able to stick to the prescribed dosage. It took enormous self-
discipline for me to take only 3 a day, couple years ago i would have ended
them all in a week, i think you mature in life, and part of that maturity is me
realizing i should stick to the prescribed dosage. Some days i even took more
than that so i wasn't being entirely honest, i know how hard it is to keep on
the dose guys, that's why i'm in this position, i'll get a new script in a month
but instead of taking 1 a day i kept taking three a day like i was prescribed
before, so if the doctor had kept me on 3 a day i'd have a new script but instead
i continued to take 3 even though he said take only one, so it's self-inflicted shit.

Needless to say, i wish doctors where more liberal with benzodiazepines, they treat
it like it's heroin or something, yet they dish out oxycodone to people like lollies !!!!
 
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Trust me, those doctors are helping you greatly by not keeping you on xanax long-term. Full-blown benzo withdrawal is a very dark place you don't want to find yourself in - not to mention highly dangerous for your physical health.

The doctors are probably treating xanax like heroin because guess what?... xanax withdrawal is worse than heroin withdrawal. Most medical professionals are fully aware of this. The physical dependance that is possible with benzos is extremely powerful, personally I'm glad benzos aren't given out so easily. I completely disagree with you that oxycodone is dished out like lollies. Valium scripts would out number oxy scripts by a huge margin.

It's really important to note that the negative side effects associated with being dependant on benzos happen even when you take the prescribed dose. Sticking to the prescribed dose does not save you from withdrawal and dependance if you stay on them long-term. Benzos are a terrible long-term solution for anxiety on a daily basis.

You can listen to these warnings and not develop a benzo habit or you can be like I was and most people I've noticed in life and learn on your own - the hard way!
 
^ I've been through opiate withdrawal, it's like
hell on earth. But all the times i've stopped taking
xanax suddenly i've felt absolutely nothing at all.

So maybe it's just the way i'm made but benzos
do fuck all to me in terms of withdrawal effects.
 
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It's not just the way you're made, it just means you haven't used them long enough to develop a full-on dependancy. Use it daily for long enough and you will get withdrawals - I guarentee it. They're equally as bad if not worse than opiate withdrawals so keep that in mind.

During the several years I was dependant on benzos my anxiety was quite bad. I kept thinking I just had an anxiety disorder and 'needed' benzos. What I didn't realise was my use of benzos was keeping me in a perpetual state of anxiety.

I haven't used a benzo in over 9 months now and have received CBT through a good psychologist and now my anxiety is almost non-existant. Don't fall into the trap of thinking eating some pills is the only answer.
 
DoctorChemX I must echo puckboys statements here, if you take enough benzos you WILL get withdrawal effects, there isn't a person on the planet immune to alprazolam addiction if used at the right dose and frequency, it is a highly addictive drug which is rivalled by few in terms of abuse potential and potential for addiction.

Also, maybe its an age thing but I know more people scripted benzos in one form or another than endone, let alone high mg formulations of potent opioids, I actually agree with you that IN GENERAL benzodiazepines are *slightly* too restricted in this country, but to imply that opioid prescriptions outnumber benzo scripts in this country requires some hard data to back it up imho.
 
I third that benzodiazepine dependency is serious, and if you stick to taking them long enough you will experience problems. I was using them daily for about three, four months (can't remember because of blacking out and losing a big chunk of my memory), and had a terrible WD even using clonazepam to taper (had to taper myself in the end, as I left rehab).
 
Maybe the reason DocChemX didnt get withdrawals was because of his (somewhat) low dosage. Taking 0.25mg 3x a day is sure not going to create withdrawal issues. I could be wrong on that.... I am fairly inexperienced myself when it comes to benzos. But reading in these benzo threads some of the dosages people have taken at times... prescribed doses too I might add... Im inclined to think that 0.75mg a day spread out over 3 equal doses isnt going to cause too much of a headache.

Obviously if this was sustained over a long period of time there might be some associated discomfort with sudden cessation. But < 1mg a day surely wont fuck you up too bad.
 
well I just had a shit day and rather having 1mg alpraz with a beer I had 2mg on a whim. Thats after having 1mg a couple hours ago towards the end of my shift.

Yeah it can be tough when you have a stash there.

self discipline, self discipline, self discipline.
 
Echoing all of the above, benzos are deservedly not as easy as antibiotics to get prescribed, they're also not a cure for anxiety and can make your anxiety worse. Nobody is immune to the effects of physical dependance and withdrawal. Oxies are not prescribed like lollies, they are infinitely harder to get prescribed, even to legitimate pain patients, than benzos.
 
opi8 said:
Echoing all of the above, benzos are deservedly not as easy as antibiotics to get prescribed, they're also not a cure for anxiety and can make your anxiety worse. Nobody is immune to the effects of physical dependance and withdrawal. Oxies are not prescribed like lollies, they are infinitely harder to get prescribed, even to legitimate pain patients, than benzos.
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True that. Only a few selected dodgy doctors will prescribe you oxycodone. There's some in every city, worldwide.

As a matter of fact, I was watching this documentary about American painkiller addiction nation mentality, and you can cross the border to Mexico and barter with them, they sell OxyContin 80mg to the undercover reporter, 5 of them. Later they were destroyed...(Yeah right). The chances of that happening are 0.2% of occurrence in Australia.

Mainly Darwin/Northern Territory chemists who are remote, have limited customers and are losing money rather than making money.

And don't gt me started on benzos. I'd much prefer an Oxycontin 160 mg a day habit than taking what I am taking now. It's impossible though, you have buckleys of getting Oxycontin if you're young.

If you're in a serious state of physical pain, i.e. fibromyalfga/chronic lower back pain brought about by assault, then maybe a private doctors will consider give you OxyContin, but it seems unlikely as the amount of Oxycontin scripts in Australia are tighter and more regulated than Fuhrer Gillard's Third Reich, specifically her arsehole.

Go the GREENS@

This is not a source MODS.

This is me rambling.
 
i agree with spacejunk ^^


it sure as hell sounds like you're asking for some oxys Mr.Charlie.


PinkRanga: No matter how low the dosage is, if you take it daily, and longterm. It is possible to get addicted, and also possible to get WD's. Even if its just a 3x.25mg dosage :)
 
I had a dream last night I found shitloads of different benzos and oxies then I woke up :( I never end up eating them in my dreams :( :(
 
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