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When I tried 3-4 mgs of Clonazepam over a weekend I didnt really feel a crash untill the middle of the next week.

I expect this 4mgs of ER Xanax over this weekend will wear off in the middle of the week since I dont think i've felt a crash yet. Comparing the two though I must say that Xanax is much more sedating on the skeletal muscles and more anxiety reducing compared to Clonazepam. Clonazepam feels like its more for stopping panic attacks, didnt do much for anxiety for me.
 
Just curious if I'm one of few, but does anybody experience hallucinations induced by Lorazepam? In terms of strength, it's a pretty weak benzo when it comes to alleviating anxiety, but every now and then I'll have odd hallucinations (Funky hypnagogic type visions). They're quite interesting, but I'm baffled as to how it could cause such reactions.
 
Another peculiar event that exemplifies these strange effects, was when I ingested 3.5g of mushrooms. About 2 hours into the trip my mother called and said she was on her way home. I started to get concern because I was obviously psychedelically inebriated, but I recalled I had some lorazepam, so thinking it'd help straighten me out I ingested 2 mg. 30 min go by and I started to regain normal cognitive functions, but something else happened. The visuals increased exponentially. If I could only begin to describe what took place in front of my eyes. I was immersed in an intricate, unique, sacred place, a place not so different when navigating through space on DMT. Anyways I know its kind of off topic, but I'd like to know if this is just an individual reaction or do others also experience the same?
 
^I also had "visual experiences" with lorazepam. I used to feel that someone is just in the corner of my eye, colors were altered and I like photos I took from that time. Also I had ?audio? (I don't remember the right word) hallucinations. Someone whom I knew couldn't be there was talking to me.

Your shrooms trip is interesting and unexpected thing for me.
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I've been up and down on finding an effective treatment for high stress, tension and some GAD. 5+ years ago, I would of jumped at the chance of having a script for benzos but I got through my wild days without a doctors help. However, after experiencing several traumatic situations (wife miscarried, grandfather passed away, and then a very bad viral infection with muscle spasms), my doctor put me on Xanax 0.5mg IR 2x/day - this was 2 years ago.

I've been on/off but as of recently, back on full course due to financial and workplace stress and my wife is pregnant - considered high risk, and on bedrest (not easy). About 2 months ago, my back started having spasms, now a daily issue. I recently asked the doctor about switching to a longer duration benzo with more muscle relaxant effects. My suggestions were Valium or Klonopin, both which I have off-label experience with. He thought it would be a good idea to switch so we made the big leap from Xanax to Xanax XR - I'm game for trying anything, but I really was trying to move away from Xanax. He left it at 0.5mg, once daily to be taken with my Vyvanse 50mg in the morning. I see a marked difference in the duration of the tension relief but it does nothing for my nerves! The IR was quick and to the point, the XR, much like my Vyvanse, is slow to build and seems to be hiding itself much more. I read on the pfizer site about the method of action and understand that it does not work like the IR. I've written an e-mail asking for a change to 1mg XR or again mentioned the ideal solution of Klonopin or Valium. My doctor is pretty good at understanding needs, however he limited me on the IR's to 60x a month because he didn't want me to build much tolerance - and it was fine until my back started spasing. But 30x of the same dose XR's doesn't make up for what I lost in my general anxiety and stress. I also take Mirtazapine (Remeron) nightly to help go to sleep + have a daily antidepressant. His other suggestion was to add an SSRI and discontinue Xanax and use a traditional muscle relaxer for pain relief such as Soma - but he didn't want me doing both. What suggestions do you guys have for my need for muscle/tension relief and anxiety due to high stress?
 
After being on high doses of benzo (mainly klonopin and xanax) for 7 years, I quit this spring. Had grand mal seizure. I am having these very wierd symptoms now and I don't know if it is related to benzo withdrawal or not.
Constant loud ringing in my ears..very high pitched
and
I am spacey and have brain fog all of the time. I search for words to use and to write. I feel like my IQ has lowered about 30 points.
This is driving me insane and actually I am very worred about it. I don't feel "bad"...just cannot think or speak correctly and the noise in my ears is awful
Is this from benzo w/d?
If it is w/d, does it ever go away? I can't stand this.
Can someone give me some insight because I feel like this is either w/d or I have a brain tumor.
 
VeryConcerned said:
After being on high doses of benzo (mainly klonopin and xanax) for 7 years, I quit this spring. Had grand mal seizure. I am having these very wierd symptoms now and I don't know if it is related to benzo withdrawal or not.
Constant loud ringing in my ears..very high pitched
and
I am spacey and have brain fog all of the time. I search for words to use and to write. I feel like my IQ has lowered about 30 points.
This is driving me insane and actually I am very worred about it. I don't feel "bad"...just cannot think or speak correctly and the noise in my ears is awful
Is this from benzo w/d?
If it is w/d, does it ever go away? I can't stand this.
Can someone give me some insight because I feel like this is either w/d or I have a brain tumor.
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The loud ringing in the ears is a classic benzo withdrawal. Or you hear things too loudly. (hyperaudio acuity) . I suggest you google the ebook "Worse than Heroin" about a Teachers Xanax addiction. A real shocking eye-opener.
Mentions that Heroin addicts who regularly use Valium etc, for when they can't score, use it to lessen the withdrawal. After getting off Heroin in rehab, the Benzo withdrawals started, and were 10 times worse 8o

Are you tapering down? DONT go cold turkey, if poss seeks a Docs advice.

Good Luck :)
 
I was wondering if that benzo chart rang true. I had been on xanax(my benzo of choice) for many years. It got to the point where I could take 30mgs of xanax(not kidding). I then realized that is REDICULOUS & Im tapering off w diazapam now(14mgs/day). It says .5 mg xanax =10mgs of diazapam. So if I wanted to get high would I take 16 10 mg valiums to equal 8 bars?? I know I still have a tolerance bc about 6 weeks ago I took xanax & 8 bars did the trick. Does it work like that??
 
Midazolam soluble in water? My arse!!!!
It takes so much water to dissolve a dormicum pill and it still has bits of shit floating in it.
I plugged 75mg midazolam last night in 10ml of water, and got nothing!! Fuck all effects at all.
I plug my morphine all the time with great results so its not my technique. I dont understand what went wrong. I shall be eating them in future.
 
@Dread calm: My experience with Midazolam is exactly the same. I felt nearly nothing most of the time and the few times i felt it, 30-45mg plugged weren't even as strong as 30mg oral/sublingual. And snorting them was impossible too because it made me cough like no other substance i ever snorted (which can't be healthy). So for dormicum it was oral or sublingual for me. Was excited when i learned it's water soluble but in the end that didn't really make a difference. There seems to be something up with those pills, because the liquid midazolam for i.v. or rectal administration is great.
I heard of people plugging dormicum pills with great results.. don't know why it only seems to work for some people.

But by the way: pieces floating in the water doesn't need to be a signal that the substance didn't dissolve properly. It could just be all the other (partly not water soluble) stuff that they use to make those pills.
 
Yeah I figured the undissolved matter woulda been fillers, coating etch so no real concern there. Although the solution I was left with, even filtered I would NOT shoot, just something dodgy about the dormicums.
I wasted ten pills plugging which pissed me off, and the only roa I am interested in now is sublingual. Bit of a disappointment with the midaz seeing as all the excitemt that built up being a water soluble benzo. Overall, I'd rather have Diaz mg for mg!
 
sorry if this has been asked before.... but i get major anxiety from smoking weed these days. i'm wondering if taking alprazolam would help at all, and what dosage would be safe to mix with cannabis. no benzo tolerance to speak of.
 
willnavidson said:
sorry if this has been asked before.... but i get major anxiety from smoking weed these days. i'm wondering if taking alprazolam would help at all, and what dosage would be safe to mix with cannabis. no benzo tolerance to speak of.
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That's cuz most the strands are inbred too far... Not enough pure strains, everything is crossed with sativa for bud structure and weight...
 
But in answer to the question, yes. Xanax would work wonders for this. Do you use benzos often? I'd start witht 0.5mg just before you smoke
 
i smoked weed every day for years, and then one day i had a panic attack. that was 3 years ago and i have only smoked a couple times since then. i usually only take a hit or two but still get pretty nasty anxiety issues. i miss smoking weed. it used to be a fun, social experience. so i'll give .5mg alprazolam a shot and see if it helps. thanks for your advice, people!
 
I would seriously think twice before you continue smoking weed if it gives you anxiety. It happened to me years ago. I had been smoking weed for years and almost every day when i started to get my first panic attacks. At first, i didn't realizie (or didn't want to) that it was the weed that triggered this (and i mean "triggered".. i'm not blaming the drug), and even when i did, i didn't want to stop smoking weed because i used to love it. It wasn't as much fun as it was before, but that didn't stop me and i began taking benzos to deal with the anxiety. Long story short: Anxiety got worse (until i couldn't even leave the house), benzo addiction was developed and now, even years after i stopped smoking weed i still have the anxiety issues and take 2 antidepressants because they seem to be the only thing other than benzos that help.

I just want to point out that i was unbelievably stupid and almost ruined my life and went through hell just because i ignored the warning signs that said "maybe you sould stop with the weed for a while". Of course, not everyone will react this way and it's likely you're just going to be fine. But i was in exactly that situation and made the wrong choice, so maybe you'll think about it. Weed is a wonderful drug and maybe the "safest" out there, but it's just not for everyone.
 
Yeah, Willnavidson, Somberlain is giving you some great advice. I also started taking them to help me enjoy smoking weed again without the anxiety and slight paranoia. Now I'm addicted to them and panic attacks and anxiety are a constant thing, they are so much worse and unbearable. I wish I just cut down my weed or perhaps stopped smoking, now I'm more fucked up. Hope you take care man and don't go the same route, I won't wish the aftermath on anyone.

I've got a question about benzos- will all the withdrawal symptoms go away when I start taking them? Will I have to take them for a while to lower them? I went cold turkey, it sucked. I want to slower taper off them, I can't deal with benzo withdrawals anymore. I know this is all my fault, I was an idiot to abuse them. Also I'm sorry if this question has been asked a million times before.
 
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