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The 6-APB thread

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organicshroom said:
From what I understand, a chemical does not need to be synthed to be patented. A maybe it may not even require a CAS number either, in this case.
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yes it does if it is an example in the patent. the synthesis also has to work in the hands of someone reasnably skilled in the art and the described properties of the molecule and identity have to be correct otherwise the patent can be invalidated.
as far as I can tell the CAS numbers posted in ADD came from scifinder who ARE CAS.
the molecule and its hydrochloride salt are listed in pubchem.
it exists and has existed since 1990 something.

there is clearly a difference between what is being sold by disreputable vendors and the pure material and there is little or no evidence that any of the material in circulation is pure 6-apb rather than being a mixture possibly including amt.
not something to mess with unless you know what it is, but even if it is 6-apb, the toxicological effects of 6-apb are unknown.

there is also no reason to believe that these so called legal highs are less likely to be adulturated with dangerous materials or are any better quality than illegal pills.
 
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I've now done the pellets a few times. It takes me at least 2.5 hours to come up and that's nowhere near peaking even if I have an empty stomach.

I took it at a club on saturday night and had a really great time. I prefer it to taking mdma if I I am with work mates as it is far less noticeable. No one had a clue i was on anything.

I've now tried sticking it up my nose and it seemed to work pretty good to be honest.

Personally I dont think it is quite worth the money at the moment as i have needed at least 1.5 pellets and have taken three before over 6 hours, but I have seen unofficial stuff that is meant to be the real deal 30% cheaper which I think is about right but i havent tried it yet so it might be bollocks. When you can buy it by the gram it will turn out to be awesome.

I mixed it with 5-IAI on one occasion and it was great and next up it will be mixed with amt. On the whole I really like the stuff, but without a doubt prefered mephedrone
 
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^So having established this (whether deja vu or not) what next?
Can some one tell us
1. how we can verify, at home with testing reagents etc, if what we have is 6-APB?
2. Suggest from the pubchem (a name quite amusing to an englishman) what the likely effect would be (euphoric, empathetic, hallucagenic, Stimulant)
3. Sugget what the likely risks are. (neurotoxic, Kidney damage, )

this is what people will come to this thread to find out and so far it hasn't been made easy

Proper tests ought to be done quickly and shouldn't be too problematic in UK since it is currently legal. I'd be happy to send a sample to someone in US who is able to test. just PM me.

Can anything be concluded by the reports from the reckless human lab-rats who have already experimented if they were able at least, to confirm through testing that they have taken 6-ABP
 
I had 3 and a half '6-APB' pills starting at around 11pm saturday. Kept me mashed for a good 24 hours, still feeling slight after effects now. No bad comedown, was pretty fucking close to MDMA, yet more messy. Pretty much started gurning hard as soon as I came up. Slight visuals, was watching incredible an incredible vortex of coloured hexagons on the tv for about half an hour. Asked my friend what the trippy video was, turns out it was just a blank screen. Nice!

Didn't really notice any bad side effects, except for a pretty stiff jaw. Also chewed a lovely hole in my lip. Didn't feel that toxic, pretty much came up, then came down. Felt normal but tired and slept fine.

No way worth the cash I paid for the experience though. I don't really like staying up more than 24 hours, feels pretty dirty. I might try again when proper dosages/synths whatever are available.

I should also note, the last pill I took was a full crushed one at 4pm sunday and didn't do anything whatsoever, so similar to MDMA in that regard too. Which is pretty good as it stops you binging.
 
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Definitely sounds like people are taking different chemicals.

In fact a lot of trip reports sound like an aMT experience, long come up, feeling sick and long duration!

Don't suppose people are being passed of aMT as 6-apb? Anyone know what Marquis reaction to aMT is?
 
Has anyone taken diazepam (Valium) to get to sleep after these? How did it work?

Also, any info on comedowns compared to MDMA and meph would be gratefully received. Thanks
 
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Well done to the Mods for sorting this thread out.

Hopefully now it can be kept on track.

I personally sampled 1 tablet and found it to be a very enjoyable experience although i would like to know a lot more about this substance before sampling again.

Keep up the good work.
 
I should(n't?) also add, my arsehole has taken a serious beating over the last 12 hours. I woke up with a colon full of the most fieriest, gelatinous enema I've ever experienced. Every hour I'd wake up bolt upright and have to dump another unwanted load down the toilet. So fucking spicey, it's going to take weeks for my poor arse to recover.

Not sure weather this is a side effect of the 6-APB or not. Anybody else had nasty bum pisses afterwards?
 
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I had enjoyed my first 6-APB pellet trip, with a 370 mg pellet (supposedly containing 100 mg 6-APB) crushed and split over two hours. It produced entactogenic effects for a few hours (after a come up of two to three hours), mild generic serotonergic-psychedelic visual effects for longer, and stimulation, jaw tension and dilated pupils for longer still, with sleep becoming possible c. 8 hours after the second half was taken. I found it pleasant, but not quite sufficient, aside from the jaw tension which I really didn't like.

My second 6-APB pellet trip was five nights later, and I barely enjoyed it at all. This time I took a 394 mg pellet (again supposedly containing 100 mg 6-APB) crushed, and I took it all at once. From two to four hours in, I felt subjectively hot and vaguely nice, but there was no sign of entactogenesis. The psychedelic visuals and stimulation were similar to last time. This time, however, I was dry-retching every hour or so during the come-up, and then vomiting on and off (more on than off, really) from about six to nine hours after ingestion. Eating was essentially impossible during this time. Also had an unpleasant headache throughout this time. Slept c 10 hours after ingestion, and after a somewhat fitful sleep woke up feeling pretty much fine at 15 hours after ingestion.

My stomach was emptier on the second trip than on the first one. On second trip, I'd had an ice cream an hour previously, and dinner seven hours previously. Can't remember about the first trip, except that I think I'd had a light meal one or two hours previously. Last stimulant use (aside from caffeine) was mephedrone up to 10 days before the first trip, and none since then.

It shouldn't be too surprising that the entactogenesis is subject to tolerance / current state of the relevant receptors and neurotransmitters. I would expect reduced entactogenic effects with other known entactogens (MDMA, methylone) when only a few days have passed since a previous dose. But aside from feeling kind of nice for a couple of hours at the peak (two to four hours in), this second experience had nothing to redeem itself.

I revise my tentatively positive thoughts about 6-APB from my first dose of it, and am now rather less tentatively thinking that the side-effects seriously outweigh the fleeting and unreliable positive effects.
 
+ 5 days after taking a pellet of 6-apb

still have a slight lethargic feeling and my tongue blister which i may add was huge has finally gone, just a little tender but the worst thing for me from this expereience is weed is not working as it was before i took 6-apb and my apatite is not what is was, should call this shit Britney as it TOXIC haha

Mailmonkey said:
This "drug" sounds shit at the moment. I've lost all interest in it.
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same , when i was banned from here for a day, it was good as i got out of this 6-apb ride and actually started to read the forums, some of this stuff sounds a lot more up my street, ie chems with really short durations which with working 7 days is perfect, i will never let the hype of anything obsess me so much again, legal ecstacy substitute:P , even saying it makes me daydream haha
 
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OrdeM said:
Definitely sounds like people are taking different chemicals.

In fact a lot of trip reports sound like an aMT experience, long come up, feeling sick and long duration!

Don't suppose people are being passed of aMT as 6-apb? Anyone know what Marquis reaction to aMT is?
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There is definately no amt in the official pellets in my opinion
 
Cool - this thread almost looks like bluelight again.

Obviously this substance (whatever it is) is virtually untested on humans, so whatever effects i'm describing here can say nothing about possible long term damage produced by this substance (or it's by-products). But in the interests of sharing knowledge...

After a few goes on the supposed 6-apb pellets, here's a few thoughts. I like this shit on it's own merits, but with a few caveats. The overall basic effects do (for me) have a lot in common with mdma/mda - more like mda to me, but still different enough to notice in a pepsi challenge.

On the downside, the side-effects, while similar seem much more prominent to me than on mdma/mda (but closer to mda): these manifest as teeth clenching, dry mouth, high temperature/sweating, eye wobbles. The side-effects for me from a single dose are akin to what might get on very high dose mdma (people tend to like these side-effects; i suppose through association with high dose mdma). I've had a headache at the end the first time i did it, but not subsequently - i guess the headache came from the teeth-clenching, cos i made an effort not to chew on later goes.

Another feature of this chem for me is the front-loaded effects: The best bit is the first 4-5 hours, then it tails off slowly to after-stimulation (although not unpleasant for me), making 8-12 hours in all. The timing of the different stages of the hit remind me of methylone more than anything: the best bit at the start, followed by lots of stimulation (though with the big difference that the nice bit was 2-3 times longer and nicer, and the stimulation never made me feel yuck like m1's stimulation - ymmv). I've found redosing too long after the first not always to be fully effective (it doesn't always recapture the initial euphoria). Although i have found redoses can make it a lot trippier. I also find a fair bit of stimulation stays with me into day two (after a bit of sleep), but also enough good mood juice to make it not feel wired (to me).

This stuff (whatever it is) is its own substance with it's own good and bad sides. But i (tentatively) think it has a place for me - i like the long effects; while chasing the initial euphoria with redoses may prove frustrating, accepting the profile for what it is, i still get a good long 8-12 hours work out of it (music - how i usually use mdx); not to mention a fair bit of work the morning after. This long effect profile isn't everyone's cup of tea though. Also, with the heavy side-effects, i don't think there'll be as much scope for upping doses (like there can be with mdma).

While i wouldn't choose it over mdma or mda (given half a chance...), i would choose it on it's own merits (given a cheap, pure substance) - and it pisses all over meph and m1 for me (which always felt much more unhealthy on the heart/BP, and never lasted long enough).

/by the way - suggestions it might contain amt sound sort of right on paper, but i would DEFINITELY have noticed an amt hit (this was a phen buzz, not a tryp buzz).
 
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Physical Stuff
Male - 29 years old - 5ft 10 - 10 stone - reasonably healthy.

Experience
Cannabis - Almost daily for 10+ years. (Stopped 2 months ago not touched it since)
MDMA - Pure crystal a couple of times less than 15 pills taken in my life so far (over a year since last dose)
Mushrooms - Taken low doses less than 10 times (over a year since last dose)
Ket - Taken once (over 3 years since last dose)
Methylone - Taken 3 times (over 10 months since last dose)
Salvia - taken once (over 5 years ago)

On the day
Heavy breakfast eaten at 10am. No lunch or evening meal.

Cut 1 pellet in half. Ground one half up in pestle and mortar. Ground down to a perfect powder. Mixed in 5 to 10ml of WARM water. Swirled it round until it was all disolved. Ended up with a orangy solution. I then sucked this up into a sryrnge.

15:40
emptied my bowels. I then layed down on my bed and plugged it. First time anything has gone up there. Didnt hurt at all didnt even feel strange. I had 0 leakage. Felt a slight need to poo but that soon went.

16:00
I sat at my computer and read the old 6-apb thread. Within 20 minutes I had a strange purple tint to my vision and was definately feeling altered.

16:30
I really couldnt concentrate on the thread at all and was getting frustrated with certain people on their wrecking any good information. I went downstairs and played some xbox. I was definately coming up at this point. Very slight jaw tension, feeling VERY happy and content and was loving playing force unleashed hehe. Absolutely NO feeling sick or needing to poo at all.

17:00
Started to read the old 6-apb thread again and all the negative comments about this substance. I thought I had reached the peak and felt a little underwhelmed. I decided to eat the other half of the pellet. BIG mistake. Within 20 minutes of eating the other half I started to get STRONG waves and I began to regret eating the other half.

19:00
Feeling absolutely wrecked at this point. No real visuals but colours looked different. The purple tint to my vision was still there. When I took off my glasses I could still the rims around my vision. Very strange. There also seemed to be blurred halos around objects.

My X girlfriend called me at this point. Talked for 10 mins but had to make excuses as I was feeling WAY too wrecked and finding it difficult to hold a conversation. Had to go lay down on my sofa to try and get myself together.

19:30
Still feeling too much for me. Tried various things to take my mind off it. Put the new episode of futurama on which really drew me in and helped ease my mind.

20:00
Def have hit the peak. The HUGE waves have ceased and left me feeling pretty awesome. I put on New Super mario brothers on the wii and play. Again this really helps take my mind off how messed up I am. My jaw is grinding very slightly. I find it hard not to smile, my face smile muscles are twitching. I feel a little like a rabbit as I can feel my nose twitching too hehe

Feel like this for a few hours

23:00
Starting to come down a little now. Get into my new bed with a slice of toast and a cup of tea. Feels like heaven. I watch pen and teller bullshit and something else I cannot remember.

24:00
Feet feel cold to the touch. All positive effects have now gone. Getting slight warm\cold flushes nothing to make me worry.

Sleep does come after tossing and turning for a little while.

10am
Wake up feeling good. No hang over. No headache. Eat normal breakfast. Eat normal dinner mix with family and parents. Feel 100% normal not even tired or flaked.

20:00
Feeling a little sick in my stomach.

+2days - perfectly fine.

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Conclusions
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Haters are gona hate but this felt like MDMA to me. Waves,euphoria,tingles super elevated mood. Music appreciation was there. What wasn't like MDMA was the slight visuals and the duration.

I had no nausea which I was VERY glad about.
 
Jamshyd said:
Question: what exactly is the difference between a pellet and a pill?
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A pellet is not for human consumption. A pill is. These chemicals cannot be sold called pills as that implies they are for human consumption. As such it would make selling them illegal. I hope that makes sense and I did not break any new thread rules.
 
(My guess is that a pellet is quite large and fat-stacked by definition while a pill is not, not necessarily. I could be wrong, and/or it could be a British thing.) edit: the posts below and above mine make more sense though I have no idea why you have to call it anything. Hmm yeah ok it has some practicality.

What I am curious about after reading the 6-APB vs. MDA vs. MDMA comparisons on page 1 is how does the crash compare to MDA, which I have always read and heard about produces a hard crash.
 
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