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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

SquidInSunglasses said:
I thought depression and anxiety are the reason like 80% of people get fucked up in the first place. I know that's part of why I do it when I'm on a night out.

I get a bit of "what was I going to do" type issues, but that might be the weed helping. Haven't had a blackout night yet, touch wood it'll stay that way.
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Yeah, I'd agree with you. I feel 'complete' and normal when I take stimulants.

The black out was pretty worrying. I sent so many people the most peculiar text messages that I've ever seen written in English.
 
CloudStrife01 said:
I have huge gaps in my memory, but I think it's mostly down to the Flubromazolam I take to sleep. 3-FPM does seem to make it worse. I remember coming around the day after mid day, thinking. "What have I just done for the past 12 hours?"
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3-FPM is fucking awful for amnesia and memory disturbances. The time distortion is unrivaled.
I think its partly due to the stimulation being 99% mental, I can spend hours and hours just thinking at light speed while there is zero push to do anything physical.
Add in the complete removal of the inclination to eat and sleep and you lose track of days very, very quickly.

I make sure to cook an actual evening meal every time (fruity muesli is often my breakfast of choice, very rarely skip it but lunch doesn't exist while speeding), usually eat around half of it and end up giving the rest to my dog. As I get skinnier he gets fatter, actually he's probably more well-fed than I am.... =D <3

The F-Lam will ruin your longer-term memory, 3-FPM pretty much causes my short term memory to pack its bags and fuck off to Thailand for a few days.
 
Ive ate 4 apples twi wispas n one crumpet today. Yea i lose track of days n time. Sadie tried calling me one night at 9 pm - I couldn't answer it cause was polishing. What I thought was fivr minutes I txt her saying "sorry I missed your cal I'll phone you baxk if you want. She said that was hours ago I'm going to bed in a mo. I looked at the clock it was 2 am literally. I couldn't it as it had only felt like five minutes so I txt back saying "sorry didn't realise the time." Yea the days get muddled up I thought it was Sunday.

Can't wait to get the fuck off this crap n back to normalcy then I'm never touvhing any substances ever again!!!!

Evey
 
Sprout said:
Tbh Chip if you didn't enjoy vaping it then there is zero reason to continue to use it.
Insidious self-fuelling Stockholm Syndrome doesn't have many benefits.
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Well vaping or not it's not really my cup of tea atm.

Also I found 4f-mph to be totally rubbish, first dose is fine, but as soon as it starts to wear off, or if you stupidly redose, it just makes me feel awful.

Used to be a stim freak of full force but it mostly left me a mental wreck with a benzo dependancy...

Have psychedelics planned for next weekend however so I can reflect on why the fuck I spent 12 hours wanking yesterday.
 
Not reached the point of calling it a day on this crap yet, tonight went well enough that I think I will give it another shot, this time without any booze, since the two seem to just cancel out without getting anything done. 60 mg feels like it should be enough, I'll confirm that in a few weeks. Got plans for next week that don't involve 3.
 
Right - this thread needs a serious clean up of the chit chat if it is to retain any informational value. If your post goes walkies check Gibz or Fucked thread.
 
Cobwebs removed and a liberal amount of Modettol used.
Would be very much appreciated if general chat is directed to the appropriate threads. It makes information much more difficult to find if not.
 
Not combined them personally but have considered its potential.
As a straight forward SRA with a seemingly clean action at the receptors it could add an extra dynamic reminiscent of triple releasing agents a la D-Meth and MDMA.

However I would expect even more neurotoxic capacity than either alone along with the obvious concerns regarding mixing two unresearched stimulants.
 
Grrr didn't crash out last night so I was lying awake tired as all hell but unable to sleep. Another mark against 3 for me. Didn't use anything to try and knock me out though, so maybe that's worth looking into. Other than benzos, which I refuse to touch, what's the options there?
 
Personally a high dose of Valerian root (~5g) has the same effect as a few mg of diaz for me but when you're throwing stims into the mix I dunno if it'd be as effective and a lot of people seem to report few results from it though a lot of those are at the recommended dose. There are very few negative effects from higher doses compared to benzos and that.

Otherwise my go-to for stims was booze but you're just piling problems on top there when it comes to comedowns. Other than that, weed and a small amount of codeine but I dunno how 3-FPM affects your CNS and both substances sometimes set my heart racing faster than I'd like when I'm a bit run down.
 
I have never known another drug to come anywhere close to the anorexia 3-FPM produces.
Barely even thought of food recently and I appear to have lost a visible amount of weight from... everywhere.

Now need a belt with 28" waist skinny jeans.
Fuck.
 
I agree, Sprout, it's really quite scary how easy it is to lose weight on 3fpm. During quite a depressed period of time last year I was taking it nonstop for a week basically. I was off work on a sick line and there wasn't anything stopping me. I didn't eat for the majority of the week and was so sick with nausea that anything I did eat didn't stay down for very long. I lost a stone in a week and my periods well and truly stopped for around 3 months (tmi but facts). That was quite terrifying to be honest because even though I'd stopped taking it the consequences were still very prominent in my mind.

As someone who has struggled with their body perception and weight, 3fpm worked far too well and has sadly been tempting on a few occasions because I know how rapid the weight loss was before. Luckily I have a really sweet guy in my life who adores cooking and is very into healthy eating and keeps me well fed with good honest food and encourages a healthier alternative to handling my issues with my weight than using drugs for a short fix.

I think the moral of this little word dump is that if you're taking 3fpm for any length of time you really need to make sure you're giving yourself enough to sustain your body and a bit more on top for all that you're burning from your system. Really is easier said than done!
 
There shouldn't be a specific contraindication with Amphet - hang on, you still using SSRI/DXM?

'Phet hits SERT as well as DAT...
 
Sprout said:
There shouldn't be a specific contraindication with Amphet - hang on, you still using SSRI/DXM?

'Phet hits SERT as well as DAT...
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My understainding was phet is basically inactive on SERT, whereas meth has some effect on SERT. Looks like I was wrong on that, but everywhere I've seen says SSRI and phet is a safe combo. I'll definitely give the DXM a miss though.
 
The activity is minimal compared to the DA and especially Meth's TRA profile, but there is still activity and I thought it wise to bring up rather than a trainwreck occur. :)
DXM and Amps is certified Serotonin Syndrome territory.
 
Well, what a weekend. Got to sleep at 11am on Tuesday.

After my comment regarding MDAI, I tried a little and it had reduced the depressive effects of the 3-FPM a little.

Then somehow happened to get some MDMA, and had roughly 200mgs. Rushing all night while taking more 3-FPM, insufflated, rather than Vaped and carried on throughout the night and next day.

That next evening still insuflating 3-FPM, and had consumed 4 ciders and 48 whippets.

Feeling absolutely exhausted. Phew.

Thanks Sprout for the Pyrazolam advice. Works very well.

:3
 
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Sprout said:
I have never known another drug to come anywhere close to the anorexia 3-FPM produces.
Barely even thought of food recently and I appear to have lost a visible amount of weight from... everywhere.

Now need a belt with 28" waist skinny jeans.
Fuck.
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28" waist is exactly what I have. Trying to find a pair of jeans that fit properly is a nightmare. Holister generally fits perfectly however. :3
 
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