because s&g regulars like gm, china rider et. al. know something about football. they're not just regurgitating crap they read about the chargers on yahoo.com and bleacher report and waving a flag.
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the 2014/2015 nfl thread v. R U RDY 4 SUM FOOTBAW?
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this post became a lot funnier when I realized you were serious. only team with any shot of those is Atlanta
I'm going to put a dollar on KC and a dollaaa twenty fiiive (toll booth willie ftw) on Carolina
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yeah I don't follow football nearly as much as basketball but I'm just looking at the odds for the 'best value' bets
but
I think i have legitimate reasons for all of those teams. Now that I really look at them I think the Giants have the best odds. Wouldn't be surprised if they win the NFC east. I think Pittsburgh can win their division too
And the reason I said jets is because of 66/1 odds. I just think they are waaaaay better than that. They should be a 40/1 at least, wouldn't you agree? Witth addition of Vick, Johnson, and decker? Those guys definitely aren't scrubs.. Chris Johnson will probably be in the HOF some day
I might be a gambling addict. And I'm going to dominate next nba season just like I did last year... I'm getting better at picking NCAA hoops too, but it's just way to fucking hard to keep track of all the players, so I usually only bet on Michigan games cause I know their players and the big ten.
There is only 450 nba players.. And about 300 of them actually play quality minutes.. Much easier to predict, for me at least.
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I think i have legitimate reasons for all of those teams. Now that I really look at them I think the Giants have the best odds. Wouldn't be surprised if they win the NFC east. I think Pittsburgh can win their division too
And the reason I said jets is because of 66/1 odds. I just think they are waaaaay better than that. They should be a 40/1 at least, wouldn't you agree? Witth addition of Vick, Johnson, and decker? Those guys definitely aren't scrubs.. Chris Johnson will probably be in the HOF some day
I might be a gambling addict. And I'm going to dominate next nba season just like I did last year... I'm getting better at picking NCAA hoops too, but it's just way to fucking hard to keep track of all the players, so I usually only bet on Michigan games cause I know their players and the big ten.
There is only 450 nba players.. And about 300 of them actually play quality minutes.. Much easier to predict, for me at least.
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I would be highly surprised if the Giants finish above .500 and the Eagles dont win the division. their defense is a shell of its former self and Eli Manning isn't going to make his offense better, he's just capable of being good enough when there are guys to make key plays for him.
the Jets did get better, but so do most teams during the off-season. I'm just under the impression that New England and Buffalo got better-er. CJ2k will probably have a bounceback year but I still see them kicking a lot of field goals. 66/1 seems ok to me
I really don't have much to say about the Steelers, I would expect Cinci to repeat in that division though.
For some reason I think Jordan Matthews on the Eagles will make an impact right away. People who think this offense needs DeSean to be effective must not have watched many games last year. Most of his yards were a result of short passes followed by key blocks from Riley Cooper or Jason Avant (love him to Carolina, not anything groundbreaking but he will catch more or less anything thrown in his area and knows how to block) which let DeSean run for like 12-20 yards before slipping out of bounds.
anyone who is an NFL receiver could have gotten those yards. The NFL is about 80% coaching and scheme imo. And I think Chip Kelly is a smart football coach. he just has to learn a few things as Ive been saying about the NFL
still though, there's a couple guys who could ruin the year if they got hurt. Short list but it is basically:
Fletcher Cox
Jason Peters
Nick Foles
because Im sure as fuck not watching Mark Sanchez do anything besides hold a clipboard this year
the Jets did get better, but so do most teams during the off-season. I'm just under the impression that New England and Buffalo got better-er. CJ2k will probably have a bounceback year but I still see them kicking a lot of field goals. 66/1 seems ok to me
I really don't have much to say about the Steelers, I would expect Cinci to repeat in that division though.
For some reason I think Jordan Matthews on the Eagles will make an impact right away. People who think this offense needs DeSean to be effective must not have watched many games last year. Most of his yards were a result of short passes followed by key blocks from Riley Cooper or Jason Avant (love him to Carolina, not anything groundbreaking but he will catch more or less anything thrown in his area and knows how to block) which let DeSean run for like 12-20 yards before slipping out of bounds.
anyone who is an NFL receiver could have gotten those yards. The NFL is about 80% coaching and scheme imo. And I think Chip Kelly is a smart football coach. he just has to learn a few things as Ive been saying about the NFL
still though, there's a couple guys who could ruin the year if they got hurt. Short list but it is basically:
Fletcher Cox
Jason Peters
Nick Foles
because Im sure as fuck not watching Mark Sanchez do anything besides hold a clipboard this year
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I actually think the Chargers will have a really good season. The only game I'm 100% sure they'll lose is week 3 against the Bills.
^ they have to play the nfc west this year as well as the ravens and patriots in the afc. plus that ropey defence?
i predict they'll finish no better than 8-8.
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i predict they'll finish no better than 8-8.
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I'd be surprised if they didn't end up over .500 this season. They beefed up their Oline, secondary, and got some depth at LB where they needed it. I think they make the playoffs.
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Eagles v Bears tomorrow, real life is back in session. good thing I have off from work.
It feels good to have a team that the rest of the country is actually interested in, otherwise Philly fans just look like they take the NFL way too seriously
fuck you, I live for this shit. Blame it on the weather, socioeconomics, or some other white collar bullshit, but the fact remains
the Eagles are the most important sports team in Philadelphia, and honestly we really don't give a fuck about your fanbase
I probably know more about your team then you do, just for shits and gigs
ooo Seattle built a stadium that fucking amplifies crowd noise, MUST BE THE BEST FANS
12th man BRAH!
BEST FANS BRAH
get the fuck out of here, come talk to me about the game and why Marshawn Lynch hasn't gotten paid yet
or stfu and wave your towel
It feels good to have a team that the rest of the country is actually interested in, otherwise Philly fans just look like they take the NFL way too seriously
fuck you, I live for this shit. Blame it on the weather, socioeconomics, or some other white collar bullshit, but the fact remains
the Eagles are the most important sports team in Philadelphia, and honestly we really don't give a fuck about your fanbase
I probably know more about your team then you do, just for shits and gigs
ooo Seattle built a stadium that fucking amplifies crowd noise, MUST BE THE BEST FANS
12th man BRAH!
BEST FANS BRAH
get the fuck out of here, come talk to me about the game and why Marshawn Lynch hasn't gotten paid yet
or stfu and wave your towel
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Lol that will be a hell of a game for sure
And of course we
Play our home opener against Seattle
And Ali we
Beefed up our secondary pretty well this off season and now with Ingram
Healthy watch out
And of course we
Play our home opener against Seattle
And Ali we
Beefed up our secondary pretty well this off season and now with Ingram
Healthy watch out
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the Dallas Cowboys might have the worst defense of all time this year
made Dwes chargers look like an all-madden team
and I happened to zone out with First Take on and Skip Bayless is trying to hype up Brandon Weeden as a solid backup and their O line as the best in the league
which I give them that, their O Line is rather solid. but im pretty sure the O Line cant cut down on Romo's poor decision making. most of his INTs werent because he was rushed, he just makes bad decisions.
Consistently one of the most overrated teams in the NFL and this year will be no different. Anyone who thinks the Cowboys are going to postseason should probably re-evaluate their life
"we need Dez Bryant to step up and be a leader on this team"
uhh, have you fucking paid attention to the guy over the past ever?
he will never be a positive locker room guy, just like TO. he only works on a team that actuallly has a shot at winning because winning sweeps his bad attitude under the rug.
I predict the Cowboys completely implode this year, but still finish 6-10 because the NFC East is so bad and they play the AFC South
made Dwes chargers look like an all-madden team
and I happened to zone out with First Take on and Skip Bayless is trying to hype up Brandon Weeden as a solid backup and their O line as the best in the league
which I give them that, their O Line is rather solid. but im pretty sure the O Line cant cut down on Romo's poor decision making. most of his INTs werent because he was rushed, he just makes bad decisions.
Consistently one of the most overrated teams in the NFL and this year will be no different. Anyone who thinks the Cowboys are going to postseason should probably re-evaluate their life
"we need Dez Bryant to step up and be a leader on this team"
uhh, have you fucking paid attention to the guy over the past ever?
he will never be a positive locker room guy, just like TO. he only works on a team that actuallly has a shot at winning because winning sweeps his bad attitude under the rug.
I predict the Cowboys completely implode this year, but still finish 6-10 because the NFC East is so bad and they play the AFC South
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The Bills are favored by 2 points in tonight's preseason with the Panthers. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but is anyone else thinking SUPERBOWL???
^ i think you are getting a little ahead of yourself. but...
i agree the bills hold a lot of promise and carolina also look promising, especially their defense.
alasdair
i agree the bills hold a lot of promise and carolina also look promising, especially their defense.
alasdair
Every year you hype the Bills, and every year theyre the same old Bills.
They have a solid roster, for sure. But that doesnt always translate into a winning football team. I'll believe it when I see it, I think they'll be lucky to finish 8-8.
prediction. dwe in here talking about how his chargers are the real deal after they beat the cowboys (arguably the worst defense in football).
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I think you'll be lucky to SHUT THE FUCK UP
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But seriously I expect them to go 9-7ish this year and hopefully make a wildcard.
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falcons vs dolphins 7pm. that hard knocks episode was even better than i was expecting. it's got me more pumped than usual for the preseason games, i wish they could have something like this every year.
i dont mean to sound like a bitter rival, but the panthers o-line is looking like it could be the worst in the league with starters jordan gross, travelle wharton, and Geoff Hangartner retiring. They're switching Byron Bell from starting RT to LT and Pro Football Focus rated him #53 tackle in the league last season, compared to Gross who was rated #3. sheesh.
and then not to mention losing steve smith to the ravens, their WRs might also be worst in the NFL. yeah they got kelvin benjamin but asking a rookie with 1 year starting experience to save them there.. idk.
their defense also lost 3/4 of their secondary starters though they should still be fine with their great d-line. but greg hardy will be getting suspended idk for how long.
now that they lost mike mitchell they're starting falcons safety from last year, thomas decoud, who was rated the 82nd safety in the league (out of 86) last year. gl with that ime
i meant to do panthers under 8 1/2 wins when the odds were even but it's since gone to around -250.
#insidenfcsouthknowledge
i dont mean to sound like a bitter rival, but the panthers o-line is looking like it could be the worst in the league with starters jordan gross, travelle wharton, and Geoff Hangartner retiring. They're switching Byron Bell from starting RT to LT and Pro Football Focus rated him #53 tackle in the league last season, compared to Gross who was rated #3. sheesh.
and then not to mention losing steve smith to the ravens, their WRs might also be worst in the NFL. yeah they got kelvin benjamin but asking a rookie with 1 year starting experience to save them there.. idk.
their defense also lost 3/4 of their secondary starters though they should still be fine with their great d-line. but greg hardy will be getting suspended idk for how long.
now that they lost mike mitchell they're starting falcons safety from last year, thomas decoud, who was rated the 82nd safety in the league (out of 86) last year. gl with that ime
i meant to do panthers under 8 1/2 wins when the odds were even but it's since gone to around -250.
#insidenfcsouthknowledge
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dont say that dude, shoot for the stars 11-5 imo
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Jason Avant is going to spring a lot of 20+ yard Cam Newton scrambles this year, just wait
if anyone remembers the DeSean jackson walk-off punt return against the Giants still, Jason Avant was the guy who lays out the last Giant player who had an actual chance to tackle DeSean. It's impossible to watch the highlight and not see it happen
I have no idea if that is going to make the Panthers THAT much better, but Cam needs to just take off running more IMO
if anyone remembers the DeSean jackson walk-off punt return against the Giants still, Jason Avant was the guy who lays out the last Giant player who had an actual chance to tackle DeSean. It's impossible to watch the highlight and not see it happen
I have no idea if that is going to make the Panthers THAT much better, but Cam needs to just take off running more IMO
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"FOX's Alex Marvez expects Cam Newton's rushing numbers to decline again this season.
Marvez made the statement after interviewing Cam. During that chat, Newton admitted he's "still kind of reluctant with mobility" as he comes off ankle surgery and has not been scrambling at all in practice."
cammy cam gonna be shaky all season with that terrible o-line
Marvez made the statement after interviewing Cam. During that chat, Newton admitted he's "still kind of reluctant with mobility" as he comes off ankle surgery and has not been scrambling at all in practice."
cammy cam gonna be shaky all season with that terrible o-line