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dpd_mnk92 said:
Haha what a pointless thread. If that wasn't a complaint about the forum and those going through a hard time, what is it?

Also don't understand how people expect a harm reduction forum to be a super duper fun place? It's a place to give/ get advice on using the substance safely and used for people who have suffered from it... and that's what people appear to be using it for. As far as I can tell anything that strays too far from the topic of harm reduction, other than the social threads, gets shut down... Harm reduction is a necessary point of discussion for those who want to reduce damage and for those who have suffered to get some advice about recovery (hence minimising damage), warning others about consequences of reckless usage in the process (which serves a harm reduction purpose too).

I don't believe all these problems are a result of adulterated MDMA use as MDMA is proven to be neurotoxic when used in the wrong way. Even if adulteration is the principle cause for increased sufferers these days, it is a very real danger associated with the use of MDMA in the modern context. It is good that people are beginning to realise the dangers, often thanks to threads about people who have suffered, warning others about the dangers of some of the cut product out today.

I really don't understand why some of the people complaining about this are even members of bluelight? There are tonnes of forums which don't prioritise harm reduction. In terms of harm reduction there is only so much you can talk about.... not too much scope for fun conversation really! If an ecstasy harm reduction forum is a place someone goes to for having a good time, I believe it is probably time to reassess what you are doing with your life + maybe consider taking up a new hobby or three... lol. Especially if you find that a large percentage of your posts are complaints about people going through an absolute shitter of a time - people whose posts fall completely within the scope of a harm reduction board.
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LMAO this is so true it makes me laugh so much lols
 
futura2012 said:
I agree with everything you have said Dawglaw 100% bar this. The problem with MEGA threads is they are very confusing with all the different topics, Difficult to navigate through and frequently get ignored.

If some one is suffering as I have seen many times the thread is often a one to one containg reassurances, help and advice specifically for that person. When discussing this before someone argued that all the advice is same but I dont think it is.

I have seen with my own eyes people going from pits of dispair to full recovery on an entire thread and grouping this into a MEGA thread because it isnt enough fun is very bad news for a harm reduction forum.
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100% agree, yeah there are more long comedown threads then ever before, however this is because people need help. We dont see the same people posting multiple threads of the same topic. Yeah we may go over the same topic many times, but it is always new to the OP. when i first came to bluelight it was because i took a pipe bomb and never wanted to do that again. Im sure i posted some redundant things, but each post made me more knowledgable to the drug world.

Individualized threads were much more useful to me because i didnt have to assume the advise given would be good for me (assuming seemed risky given the lack of knowledge i had on this subject), i could post my exact question and it would be answered in a personalized way.

rollonsafely said:
Bingo! They buy a cap of molly empty it out on a table and snort it without thinking twice, very unwise to say the least
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We want to stop behavior like this, i meant no offense by it, just an example of actions that could easily lead to a bad comedown.
 
Mendo_K said:
OP speaks sense, I find now only coming in here out of extreme sheer boredom, due to the posts exactly like your reply. I came, left came replied, left came and left again. Id hate to be a mod in here, jesus.

Old seems like its going to get worse as well.

And epic11 everything you said was complete nonsense.


Im still waiting for a positive thread, because im sure the majority of these people are not taking MDMA, never heard of anything like it before in my life.
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Bullshit, i feel 100000% better after switching my diet to non GMO organic foods. Your're insane to think anything else. Lost 55 lbs in less than a year. Im a living breathing example. My neurochemistry seems to be way more on point too, thinking clearer, less fog, less depressing days. WAY MORE ENERGY than ever before. My asthma has gone away. So tell me again how changing your diet doesnt do anything?

GMO foods do not provide the full nutrients that organically grown items do. GMO foods = partial nutrition = nutrionally depleted humans (NUTRITIONALLY depleted humans) This means, in theory, your brain is not producing the same amount of serotonin as say, someone who eats only organic foods.

I can attest to my brain function being way better now.
 
lol a good diet is actually EXTREMELY important. 90% of your serotonin is for digestive purposes, and we all know the saying "you are what you eat"..



That's why people stressing diets high in L-tryptophan is so common, it really is one of the most vital parts to recovery.
 
BlueHues said:
^I had to go back and read the thread, I honestly thought E11 was posting in the wrong thread.
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The nice thing about those "organic" and "no GMO" type foods is that, in my experience, there's typically less bullshit ingredients in the packaged stuff you find. (Probably because the people into "organic" and "no GMO" are slightly more likely to read the labels and call you out if you put bullshit in it). It's going to matter for instance if you get off of the high GI crap that's often in pre-packaged stuff. It's going to matter if you switch to rawer ingredients as well (which may happen when you "go organic").

So while I'm skeptical of the merits of "organic" (as a marketing label) and don't feel GMO is a big deal, there's no problem in my mind if you follow that path if you want. :)

Nutrition *is* important, and a good diet and good exercise habits does help your body deal with MDMA.
 
dpd_mnk92 said:
Haha what a pointless thread. If that wasn't a complaint about the forum and those going through a hard time, what is it?

Also don't understand how people expect a harm reduction forum to be a super duper fun place? It's a place to give/ get advice on using the substance safely and used for people who have suffered from it... and that's what people appear to be using it for. As far as I can tell anything that strays too far from the topic of harm reduction, other than the social threads, gets shut down... Harm reduction is a necessary point of discussion for those who want to reduce damage and for those who have suffered to get some advice about recovery (hence minimising damage), warning others about consequences of reckless usage in the process (which serves a harm reduction purpose too).

I don't believe all these problems are a result of adulterated MDMA use as MDMA is proven to be neurotoxic when used in the wrong way. Even if adulteration is the principle cause for increased sufferers these days, it is a very real danger associated with the use of MDMA in the modern context. It is good that people are beginning to realise the dangers, often thanks to threads about people who have suffered, warning others about the dangers of some of the cut product out today.

I really don't understand why some of the people complaining about this are even members of bluelight? There are tonnes of forums which don't prioritise harm reduction. In terms of harm reduction there is only so much you can talk about.... not too much scope for fun conversation really! If an ecstasy harm reduction forum is a place someone goes to for having a good time, I believe it is probably time to reassess what you are doing with your life + maybe consider taking up a new hobby or three... lol. Especially if you find that a large percentage of your posts are complaints about people going through an absolute shitter of a time - people whose posts fall completely within the scope of a harm reduction board.
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Good post, although it's a tough call deciding which posts are legitimate psychological issues and which ones are just people freaking out in the immediate aftermath of an intense roll.

I'd say it doesn't have to be about Harm Reduction 100% of the time either, just don't say anything that would encourage harmful practices
 
Wow I'm surprised nobody mentioned the flood of bullshit in the United States is probably the reason why this thread area is so bleak. I understand that BL is a global forum, but I feel like a lot of the reason ED isn't more positive and upbeat is because of the amount of people that are genuinely like "WTF did I just eat? if this was E whats all the hype about?" 15 years ago your biggest issue was DXM or a Meth bomb. Today your biggest issue is actually getting your hands on real MDMA in the US. Things are looking better than say 2 years ago, but by no means is the market even close to what it was pre-precurser regulation in the US. Unfortunately, I don't believe the market will ever return to its former strength as it did in the UK given the vast population of the US and strict scheduling of North America in general. To return to the original point, much of this forum is dedicated to people who are very uneducated when it comes to MDMA, because sad as it is you can't trust anything on the illicit market anymore...regardless of substance.
 
The "ecstasy" scene has changed a lot since then. MDMA is almost non-existent anymore in certain parts of the US. Ecstasy pills are frequently getting cut with more sinister products. Have you checked pill reports lately? An ecstasy pill had methadone in it. People are still munching pills like it's 1990 and many people don't even know what ecstasy or "molly" is really supposed to contain anymore... Of course there's going to be worse and worse threads when some raver pops 3 ecstasy pills that actually contain BZP, TFMPP, or even Amphetamines...

A testing kit should be every MDMA user's lifeline. The government is actually right believe it or not, one pill can ruin your life forever.
 
We took an executive decision not to make a mega thread for the comedown threads, although numerous, in case people felt they weren't getting advice personal to their situation.
 
We took an executive decision not to make a mega thread for the comedown threads, although numerous, in case people felt they weren't getting advice personal to their situation.
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Nice one Strutter that is a very good call :)
 
I totally agree. The best part of ED was reading all the roll tricks and fun things to do. Rarely, people had issues and if they did it was typically depression or taking too much. The quality of pills started to dwindle just as I was maturing out of use so thank god I don't have to deal with any of this crap that goes on now.
 
StrutterGear said:
We took an executive decision not to make a mega thread for the comedown threads, although numerous, in case people felt they weren't getting advice personal to their situation.
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IMO there was no decision.. no one seemed to care however, and it was swept under the rug. I seem to ask the other mods for their opinion on a lot of things and rarely get feedback


I still believe that there should be a MEGA thread for Comedown support, I started one a long time ago but it never took off. Sure, individual threads can be very helpful... I've expressed this myself, and I know many others have said it as well. However, I think a large thread for those suffering to group together for strength could be very helpful. There is strength in numbers... currently you guys seem to do this, but you group together in individual users threads, which makes what should be focused on one person a rather community thing. I think that great, but why can't we have the best of both worlds...???



Really, I would like to hear why anyone would be opposed to that.
 
Folley said:
IMO there was no decision.. no one seemed to care however, and it was swept under the rug. I seem to ask the other mods for their opinion on a lot of things and rarely get feedback


I still believe that there should be a MEGA thread for Comedown support, I started one a long time ago but it never took off. Sure, individual threads can be very helpful... I've expressed this myself, and I know many others have said it as well. However, I think a large thread for those suffering to group together for strength could be very helpful. There is strength in numbers... currently you guys seem to do this, but you group together in individual users threads, which makes what should be focused on one person a rather community thing. I think that great, but why can't we have the best of both worlds...???



Really, I would like to hear why anyone would be opposed to that.
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We can discuss it in the mod thread, but I told you my thoughts on it a number of times.
 
Salandrion said:
Wow I'm surprised nobody mentioned the flood of bullshit in the United States is probably the reason why this thread area is so bleak. I understand that BL is a global forum, but I feel like a lot of the reason ED isn't more positive and upbeat is because of the amount of people that are genuinely like "WTF did I just eat? if this was E whats all the hype about?" 15 years ago your biggest issue was DXM or a Meth bomb. Today your biggest issue is actually getting your hands on real MDMA in the US. Things are looking better than say 2 years ago, but by no means is the market even close to what it was pre-precurser regulation in the US. Unfortunately, I don't believe the market will ever return to its former strength as it did in the UK given the vast population of the US and strict scheduling of North America in general. To return to the original point, much of this forum is dedicated to people who are very uneducated when it comes to MDMA, because sad as it is you can't trust anything on the illicit market anymore...regardless of substance.
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Come to holland i can guarantee you almost 80% of the pills your randomly buy will contain MDMA :D
 
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