Herbie, I know what you mean about the unit thing, babycircus and I are sort of a package deal as well. We were raised camping quite a bit, and similarly to you, we were pretty self sufficient. Most kids these days don't seem to thrive as well in nature, it seems to be almost a thing of the past. Ialso agree with you on the four kids vs. two kids thing, at the point this planet is at, I almost believe it to be gluttonous for a couple to have more than two, although I do find it somehow more forgivable if the parents can at least provide each child the same opportunity to succeed. If your older son ever needs another sibling, my arms are open. Like I said, I've always wanted another brother

Also, i absolutely love that photo of you and stardust, I can feel the love all the way over here
DMoTruth, thank you, you're pretty cute yourself, and the guitar= +1
MoE, your derp is awesome. Not everybody can do that, you know..