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Harm Reduction Tapering Plan Mega thread - community project

seroquel made me feel like a zombie when they gave it to me for WD about a year ago.....
 
If you want to come off shit, just do it, don't take subs. Although they can be ok, the only reason I'm on them is because they are still a drug I can use/abuse and I dont have to pay anything :) Although its just switching out one opiate for another.

You've got a ton of great drugs already, just take them and go through with it. It won't kill you, and you probably have a sufficent amount of drugs to just be pretty fucked up until they subside, depending on tolerance. Although sometimes benzo's don't work that well, you got plenty of shit to mix and match.

Seroquel is ok, but not for long periods. It will probably put you in a semi-coma sleep, but eh, its an antipsychotic.

Also, you could try DXM. Its the opposite isomer of lxm, a powerful opiate, and I've found that it can greatly help you feel better + pass the time through the withdrawals. I always drank a ton to trip, but if thats not your thing just dxm or doxy. succulate (sp? - the antihistamine in nyquil) alone or in combo should be enough to put you down.

As always be careful no matter what you do, especially if mixing, but you have a ton of options and its not all that horrible.
 
I have taken the clonazepam and the temazepam for 15 years now for chronic anxiety and sleep. I have only been on opiates for 3. When I took the fentanyl patch off I had terrible wd's and the clonazepam and temazepam didnt help me at all. Thats when the doc gave me clonodine. It also didnt help with the terrible rls. I have went through every wd symptom I know of and the rls is what breaks me. I would like to take it slower but I am just tired of being in some kind of wd everyday. I have taken the exact same daily dose of oxy for a week and a half and I still feel like shit everyday. I am only taking 20-25 mg a day now. Also I need to get back to work. The boredom sucks and my money is drying up. And where I feel like shit everyday I am not the father I need to be to my kids. I mean they are around I just never feel like doing anything. My doc has brought up seriquil but I didnt want to take more RX than needed. But if it will make me sleep some after I stop taking the pills all together then I am all for it. I know there is paws after the 3-5 day detox. What has been succesful for anyone for the 2-3 weeks of paws?
 
i love how u make the SAME EXACT thread 4 times a week

weee allllll knowwww, 160mg down to 25mg...yes we know

you basically just want to talk to someone about it and i find it halarious

lemme give u what u want

bud, your doing great, i know a lot of people who could never do what youv dun!

and u basically got everything u need, i think all those meds should make u sleep for about 3 months
 
hilarious? how constructive.

I'm going to move this into the tapering mega thread.

...to the person who suggested levomethorphan- since it was never clinically developed, I'm not sure how the OP would acquire it and its just another opioid really so I'm not sure what the advantage would be. At least (the related) levorphanol is available and will help reduce tolerance since its also an NMDA antagonist.

anyway...


---->tapering mega thread.
 
cane if i could block you i would, but i cant so how bout u just stop reading my posts. or better yet, make it so i can and you can block me so i can just avoid you

ur a moderater, ur supposed to be a professional, not a regular joe
 
I was asking about seriquel and anything else that could help me. I wasn't asking for a smart ass pat on the back.
 
pill popping animal, show some damn respect!!!

dont go disrespecting Cane....... we all have to listen to you whine about a lot, we dont need to listen to you complain about how someones tapering was a success.

THIS IS THE TAPERING PLAN MEGA THREAD FOR GOD SAKES
 
Ok so here is my best suboxone taper plan so far and it seems to be working.
Taper down to .25-.5mgs for about a week then take:
Kratom
Clonodine
Klonopin
Advil
Vitamins
Cannabis/JWH's
Benadryl
Melotonin
It may seem heavy duty but I've been on bupe for 4-5 years. Take as needed just be careful with the benzo clonodine combo. The point is to not get high but instead just feel kinda crappy. I've been sleeping 7 hours a night and only suffering a little compared to my last attempt....which was benadryl melotonin dxm and jwh.

Hope it helps someone, I'm about 3-4 days clean and I've been dosing reasonably. Not to mention almost everything is OTC, besides clonodine (easy to get scripted) and kpins (which you could probably do without).

Edit: and stretch/do yoga, drink a fuck ton of water, eat everything you can (IMO the lethargy is mostly cuz you don't eat when you're sick). And throw out your dealer's numbers.
 
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Suboxone Detox - please help!

I'm on day 5 of a suboxone detox. I feel like I'm dying, I went cold turkey off of 4mg a day. I took a clonidine every 3 hours from 6pm yesterday to about 8am this morning (5 in total) and now I feel really fucked up, groggy and completely drained but I don't feel w/d symptoms of the hot/cold, RLS etc. I just feel way messed up. I'm just wondering how long this is going to last, this is the worst thing ever.
 
hello gosh i i know exactly what u r going through i myself stopped subs around a month ago i am now going to the methadone clinic i made it through the withdrawels but never got any energy back and was heading in the way wrong direction. first off how long have u been on them second off when i quite i stopped at 1mg a day after being on that dose for about two weeks i was on subs for three months i hate to tell u this but u r just now entering the worst of it i too though i was dying it was the worst thing i have ever been thru and let me tell u i have camee off of plenty of opiates. i am going to b honest with u even after the withdrawels r done for the most part it then gets really really bad mental wise once all of the bupe is off of your opiate receptors i wish u the best of luck i also used benzo they only helped for sleep though. pain wise u r going to have about 2 to 3 weeks worth especially rls. i wish u the best of luck also u jumped off of a way way high mg u but if i was u i would tough it out now instead of going back and trying to taper like i said though after the physical shit is gone the mental is really gonna kick in and i swear that to me is even worse
 
yea, what curlygurl said is basically right about what your probably going to have to go through. The "later on" sickness that she described, the "mental" aspect of it, thats called PAWS....post acute withdrawal syndrom. Basically its like opiate withdrawals, but its more of a mental thing because your brain and body arent use to having to make there own dopamine and endorphins etc, and your mind is still in that depressed "addiction fog"(dont know how else to say it),....and more bad news is that the PAWS generally last longer than regular WD's. My guess is you wont start feeling normal again for atleast a month or two.

Alot of it depends on your addiction and tolerance and then how long you were on suboxone and at what dose etc .....and if I read your post correctly, I think you are only doing a few day taper with subs and in that case, your PAWS from the suboxone probably wont be very long at all. You more than likely will just have to deal with the WD aspect of your drug of abuse, and then the PAWS from THAT drug...but since whatever drug you were abusing(im assuming heroin or oxy) is a full agonist and has a much shorter half life than suboxone, your PAWS will likely be alot shorter than if you had been on suboxone for a long time and then tapered down to 4mg's and jumped off(which would be absolutely rediculous if a doctor ever did that to a patient).
Good Luck. Theres alot of reading about this very same subject all over BL so if you want you can do a search and find it but since your probably feeling crappy you might not be up to it.
 
I've just done exactly the same thing, except I jumped off at 1mg. 4mg is really way too high a dose to detox from but that's not really relevant at this point.

The reason you are feeling so out of it is the Clonodine. This drug drops your blood pressure significantly and just generally makes you feel like a zombie. You should start to taper the Clonodine dose but DO NOT stop taking it abruptly as this can be extremely dangerous.

Do you have medical support for your detox or are you doing it yourself? If it's the latter, I'd suggest you go and see a Dr. ASAP.

What James says about PAWS is right on but I don't think you're anywhere near that stage yet. It took me over a week just to get over the acute withdrawal stage at 1mg so I think it's highly likely you're still in physical withdrawal. This is why I think it's important you see a Dr. You may need other medication like benzos to 'take the edge off'.

If you have nausea, vomiting and/or diarrhea, get some loperamide (Immodium or generic) and take a big dose (like 30-40mg). This will help enormously. If weed is your thing, it also helps a lot with nausea.

Based on my experience, I'd say you've got 2-4 days left before the physical withdrawals peak and you start feeling better. Good news is that once you hit this point, you'll improve in leaps in bounds.

The bottom line is before too long, you will start to feel a lot better. Tough it out and you'll get there. It's only a couple of weeks out of your entire life!

Good luck <3

Disclaimer: this is all based on my personal experiences so may not be 100% applicable to you, particularly my suggestions regarding withdrawal time.
 
i did a 4 week kick that literally got better every week to the day. so if your serious about stopping you will make it, if your only stopping because you ran out of drugs then you wont make, latz and GL
 
I was on it for 9 months. I stopped because I lost my job and insurance in july and I just couldn't afford it anymore. I was addicted to lortabs before I got on subs, I have never touched heroin or oxys. I'm pissed I didn't just go through the detox from them and skip subs.. I called my doc today to ask for something to help and all he'll give me is MORE SUBOXONE. He said take an 1/8th every other day for 10 days but I don't want to just start my withdrawals over in 10 days. Do you think this would help or hurt my cause?

So I can't just stop the clonidine? I've only been taking it for 2 days... it made me faint after standing up last night, several times. I don't want to take it anymore.
 
Well I ended up in the ER after blacking out and falling to the ground after standing up. My body felt like it was convulsing like a seizure, and I was worried I had OD'd on the clonidine. (I've taken 8 since 6pm Wednesday and I'm a small 115lb girl) they were very nice and gave me some atvian for my anxiety/withdrawal symptoms and trazadone for sleep. Are these things good for w/d? I just want a decent night of sleep! Withdrawaling all night and all day just plain sucks. I like the clonidine cause it calmed me down and made me sleep and took away the hot/cold crap but it literally only lasted for a few hours at most and then i'd need another. So eff that shit.
 
My legs have actually felt ok. I'm really leary of the trazadone tho. Will the atvian make me sleepy? I just want some god damn sleep!
 
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