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Taking suboxone for the first time

VaderisBaddAss

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So I ran out of my legal Rx too early. I take 30 mg OxyContin 2x p/d and then 8mg Dilauded 2x p/d. But I'm not going to the drs for another week and my pain has been worse than is has in the past few days, which is why I've run out early..so my friend said he could get some suboxone. (no idea on the dose or how many). Any advise on when or how to take these? I sometimes also take Atavan. Would these have any problems being mixed with and of the other pain meds?

Or will any combo work better to last longer? I don't really care about rush or intense ness or nothing like that, but I just want to reduce my pain. Also, these won't cause me to withdraw if I only take under 10 over 10 days, or will having the Dilaudid and oxy to take, if I get w/d symptoms from the subs, prevent the w/ds?

Thanks for any help!
-V
 
Suboxone is a very potent opiate, depending on what dosage you get (8mg seem to be the most common dose around), you'll want to start with a very small amount.

If you get withdrawal from Suboxone, taking a regular full agonist opiate will reverse the withdrawal symptoms. If you are in withdrawal from a regular full agonist opiate, Suboxone will stop those withdrawal symptoms as well.

The only thing to keep in mind regarding Suboxone and withdrawals is that taking Suboxone after consuming another opiate but before the other opiate is out of your system...can send you into withdrawals, something you don't want to do. You can prevent this from happening by waiting until you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms before taking the Suboxone.

I recommend reading through the latest version of the Suboxone Megathread (in the Other Drugs forum) for more general information regarding Suboxone. The Megathread is pretty large, but it is loaded with information.

Hope this helps :)
 
Okay so If I want to quit suboxone I can take a regular opiate until its out of my system and then quit that one? I would rather go through Vicodin withdrawal for a week then go through suboxone pains everyday..
 
Kayla, wait ~36 hours after coming off the suboxone before taking any traditional opiates. The blocking effect of suboxone will make them useless if you don't wait long enough. Even 36 won't be enough to fully feel them unfortunately.

The problem with coming off of suboxone after a long time, is that with its long half-life, it takes a very long time to completely leave the body. Longer duration = longer WD.. it's a catch-22 drug. Helps but hurts at the same time.
 
Ahh hate this cycle.

The long WD of sub is killing me. I just want to be normal again. I think I rather Take a Vicodin every once in a while than be on sub for the rest of my life.. I'm prob going to just get on the metha tho...

What do you think about the meth instead of sub?
 
They serve different purposes. If there's no risk of relapse / addiction, and analgesia / painkilling is the main concern, I would prefer to be taking methadone as buprenorphine is only moderately effective at best, and doesn't allow anything to be used for breakthrough pain because of it's full-receptor-takeover blockade effect.
 
Yea Kayla, I read your other suboxone thread, in your spot, it sucks I'm sorry, I totally feel for you, but I agree totally with pjkt, methadone might be way better for you than the suboxone. It will also help with your cravings just as good as the sub does.

I know allll about IV Dillie's. I've been on it for years, every time I go to the hospital, which is frequent, they put me on that. It's fantastic, works fn great! And don't feel guilty about goin to the ER just for the meds, pain management is a legit reason for ER admittance. I've been admitted numerous times just for pain, to get IV pain treatment when my home medicine isn't working.

Definitely get a new dr tho, and definitely report him too! He should be treating you with respect-no matter what kind of office he runs.


@Neighborhood, thank you for the advice! I actually tried one, 8mg, I tried 1/2 then another half, and it really didn't do much for me, prolly because I had taken the Dillie's only a few hours before. I don't think I'm gonna take it again, because I can't wait 36 hrs after taking an opiate, to take that, then I can't go 36 hrs on that without taking an opiate! Sucks, I'm in some bad pain tho :/ right now my back hurts so much I can't sleep anymore, (I typically sleep til 11/12) and I can't even sit up in my bed! Got a hot pack on but it still fn hurts like hell. I just bought a tempurpedic! Waiting for delivery! I can't wait! :)

Again, thanks for the help!
 
Thank you for the advice V. :)

And thanks for reading my other post. Ya I definety think suboxone it not for me. I hate it, most painful medication I've ever taken.

But for you it might really help, only with addiction though. Are you trying to get clean? Of you are then ya the doctors usually make you wait till you are in withdrawal before you get your first suboxone. When i first got on it I was on dill ( by the way I think the rock to, I couldnt even feel my legs) problem with me is everyone knows about my drug issues so when I go to the ER someone tells the doctors im a recovering addict and now I don't get anything...and im forced to stay on suboxone because it keeps me a good girl if girl know what I mean...

Are looking for pain relief or drug relief? I you just want withdrawal cure then every time you run out wait until you hit withdrawal and feel like shit is coming on take half a sub and you will feel way better..
 
Ahh hate this cycle.

The long WD of sub is killing me. I just want to be normal again. I think I rather Take a Vicodin every once in a while than be on sub for the rest of my life.. I'm prob going to just get on the metha tho...

What do you think about the meth instead of sub?

I am sorry man but thats a stupid idea (sorry for being so blunt). The sub withdrawal is killing you, so you wanna get on methadone-say it outloud...horrible decision. Honestly getting BACK on bupe after being on methadone for over a year was the BEST move I ever made. Methadone seriously blows. Bupe is way better in every way if you really want to get clean & focus stabalizing free of illicit drug use and eventually tapering off opiates all together. It's much easier to taper with a partial agonist than a full agonist and you also dont have to bow and suck cock just to get served your dose in the morning. You can see a doctor once a month and be through with it.
 
I am sorry man but thats a stupid idea. The sub withdrawal is killing you, so you wanna get on methadone. Say it outloud. Horrible decisions. Honestly getting BACK on bupe after being on methadone for over a year was the BEST move I ever made. Methadone seriously blows. Bupe is way better in every way if you really want to get clean, focus on tapering off. It's much easier to taper with a partial agonist than a full agonist and you also dont have to bow and suck cock just to get served your dose in the morning. You can see a doctor once a month and be through with it.

Okay. So you like your subs. Awesome. For me subs are not working if you read my other post you would know all that is going on. I have been clean for months. I just want a way to taper off the sub wih out fuxking pain. I don't want to just switch to meth and start taking I daily the withdrawal from that sucks to (I've been there's)

My problem is the fucking sub withdrawal is so painful. I am in pain right now. I hate it.

Glad it's working great for you tho.
 
I still don't see how switchign to methadone would help your situation.. so your already far along (congrats on that because thats monumental right there man getting a few months clean time), but there's no avoiding that eventual withdrawal and PAWS once you make that final jump. Methadone seems like it would be a step backwards being hwo far along you are with bupe as it is even just using it as a taper.

Would you be getting on a clinic or a private doc? Becuase also a clinic will let you do a 30 day taper but its on their terms.. other than that generally they just have an MMT program.

Props on getting clean though for real..super awesome.
 
Thank you for the advice V. :)...
Are you trying to get clean? Of you are then ya the doctors usually make you wait till you are in withdrawal before you get your first suboxone. When i first got on it I was on dill ( by the way I think the rock to, I couldnt even feel my legs) problem with me is everyone knows about my drug issues so when I go to the ER someone tells the doctors im a recovering addict and now I don't get anything...and im forced to stay on suboxone because it keeps me a good girl if girl know what I mean...

Are looking for pain relief or drug relief? I you just want withdrawal cure then every time you run out wait until you hit withdrawal and feel like shit is coming on take half a sub and you will feel way better..

You're welcome, let me know if you just need to talk too, I'm here, but it sounds lik you got a good friend in pjkt :)

No, I'm not trying to get clean, I'm on legit rXs for legit pain. Under the care of a dr, etc, etc.. I had a liver transplant a year ago (Jan 21st actually) and I had really bad complications, infections and shit causing really bad pain. I've been on one painkiller or another since like 2004/2005. I have an enlarged spleen bc of the liver disease I had, and the spleen is like the size of a watermelon, so it's too big, it's protruding, like you can feel it down past my belly button.. A normal size is like maybe softball sized? I think. Anyway, mines ridiculously big, and they hoped it would shrink after surgery, but it didn't. So I dunno what they're going to do, I can't imagine being off drugs because sometimes I can't even stand up straight.. :/

After my surgery, I was on Dilauded IV for almost two/three months. So they wanted to get me on oral meds so I could leave and go home. (I as discharged 8 days after surgery, but ended up back in the ER because I had a bladder infection! And that put me in the hospital for almost 3 months, because the pain was terrible, plus I had no nutrition, couldn't really walk, etc, from surgery. So they kept me there. So to switch me to oral pills, they started tapering me down using the IV methadone, replacing my Dilauded doses with that intermittently.. The finally they got me on methadone pills, and I was trying to get off them and be done (cause they originally thought the pain from the spleen would go down when it shrunk). The spleen didn't shrink, so I still needed pain management. The dr put me on Oxys and Ocycontin. And the I dunno how, but one of my drs, can't remember if it was up here or back in FL, switched me back to Dillie's with the OxyContin twice a day for long term, so that's what I'm on now. Not trying to get clean really, so much as trying to decrease my usage.
This month has been kinda bad, I think the cold is really eating to me. (I also had a herniated disk a few years back, and went through PT, had some epidurals, and I think it was good for a while but after surgery, I think bc I'm lying down, resting so much that the pain is coming back, I said earlier, a lot of times I want to stay asleep, but I have to get ou of my bed and go to the couch bc I can't physically sit anymore. Even in the car, driving back from FL with my dad, we could only go 4 hrs a day tops, or my legs would spasm, restless leg, or I'd get really fn nauseas, so a 15-17 hr drive took us 2 1/2 weeks, tho we did take our time and made stops (universal, VA beach, MD, Atlanctic City, lol, so no complaints about length)! So I've had to take a few more than rx'ed. Plus I got my Dillie's Rx early (another story) and I'm trying to hold out for another week til my next appointment, so I'm not always asking for them early. My friend said he could get the sub so I figured I could try it.. Oh well. Didn't work, but now I know they're something I don't want.

Can't wait for my tempurpedic to be delivered!! I hope it helps! And my bratty dog better like it or she can sleep with my dad! (but we all know that's not gonna happen) :)

Sorry for the rambling.. Let us know how things work out when you find a new dr!
 
V- wow that's a lot to go thru. I see why you would need te pain medication. I had two surgeries last year myself but it was only cause I went to the doctor and told them I had pain and they eventually found where te pain came from and did surgery. The pain wasn't that bad, I just wanted to feel no pain at all. I hate it. Why all are you taking? Do you take something for the spasms? I want a tempurpedic bed ahhh lol
I love to have new friends by the way :)

Why do y'all drive around so much? Was it a vacation?
I am actually googling now to see what I can find...
 
Dude what the fuck man I am giving you props on getting clean how am I being a dick? how can I be any nicer man? I am jealous you have months clean bro.. and I complimented you. What do I have to do?

I wasn't being sarcastic if that's the impression you got.. a few moths clean is truely monumental atleast in my eyes. I haven't personally accomplished that. And I was just being constructive asking if your getting on a program or a private doc. Sorry I ever interjected bro dunno why your so touchy. Can't take a compliment can you.
 
Also I think u have to fun a clinic. Around here we have to go daily to the clinic... The only places I can find are in Houston.. I really don't want to go on HTown because it's junky central and I'll relapse before I make it in the fucking door. Very sad truth.

I'm only clean this long one suboxone and two because I have cut of all contacts which is so hard.
 
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