Taking my meds as prescribed

[kronedog]

As some of you might know, I tend to abuse the shit out of any drug I get ahold of.

I've been prescribed xanax for almost a year now due to anxiety issues. I ended up abusing them, didn't get addicted but got addicted to Oxycodone during that time period (6 months) then quit both drugs cold turkey which was a good idea. I still indulge in oxy's every now and then but I'm super careful now, not to mention I used to be addicted to heroin many years ago.

Since being back on xanax (today being day 1) I've planned to take them all as prescribed. I took my dose of 0.5 this morning and have been feeling like myself, its amazing. Although I also drink a LOT of coffee in the morning and the anxiety is coming back right now. What should I do, do another .5 or start cutting my coffee drinking down? I do NOT want to get addicted to xanax by any means.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[WorldWarMe]

As some of you might know, I tend to abuse the shit out of any drug I get ahold of.

I've been prescribed xanax for almost a year now due to anxiety issues. I ended up abusing them, didn't get addicted but got addicted to Oxycodone during that time period (6 months) then quit both drugs cold turkey which was a good idea. I still indulge in oxy's every now and then but I'm super careful now, not to mention I used to be addicted to heroin many years ago.

Since being back on xanax (today being day 1) I've planned to take them all as prescribed. I took my dose of 0.5 this morning and have been feeling like myself, its amazing. Although I also drink a LOT of coffee in the morning and the anxiety is coming back right now. What should I do, do another .5 or start cutting my coffee drinking down? I do NOT want to get addicted to xanax by any means.

Thanks for the advice.

Avoid all forms of rationalizing in your head when it comes to benzos. They constantly trick you into thinking you need more. Take precautionary measures, cut the caffeine out completely. Benzos are GABAa ninjas as I like to say. You never know when your brain is tricking you into taking another dose. Especially if you have an addictive personality, please avoid redosing your Alprazolam. I would not take xanax more than once a day personally to avoid addiction. This is for SHORT periods of time. If you're abusing them, I always advise to leave 5-6 days in between doses to prevent dependence as much as possible. Benzos are not a long term solution, they are a short term band-aid.

 

[twotoomany]

^word.

Try to take them only as needed. I cut coffee out and my anxiety level is much better these days. I made the mistake of taking my kpin daily for 6 months or so. Even with responsible dosing (.25-.5mg/day) I still find myself having issues tapering down. I'm currently at .125mg a day. Benzo addiction is no fun, man. Play it safe and limit your dosing to only when you absolutely need it.

 

[kronedog]

Thank you for the responses guys, its helped out. I'm going to continue taking my little .5's whenever I need them like for panic attacks and when the anxiety gets over bearable but starting tomorrow Ill start lowering my caffeine intake. I drink about 2 pots of day which I know is a reason which contributes to my overall anxiety.

I've also done my best to stay up from most uppers. I do meth once a year and thats happening in the next two weeks but because my anxiety has been bad lately I'm questioning it. Also did a good amount of coke the other night and sent my anxiety into hell. Thanks again guys!

 

[Corazon]

you are doing good.

Try to make a rule for yourself that you will not self-medicate, and if you have anxiety you will talk with your doctor before adjusting your dose on your own.

 

[WorldWarMe]

Thank you for the responses guys, its helped out. I'm going to continue taking my little .5's whenever I need them like for panic attacks and when the anxiety gets over bearable but starting tomorrow Ill start lowering my caffeine intake. I drink about 2 pots of day which I know is a reason which contributes to my overall anxiety.

I've also done my best to stay up from most uppers. I do meth once a year and thats happening in the next two weeks but because my anxiety has been bad lately I'm questioning it. Also did a good amount of coke the other night and sent my anxiety into hell. Thanks again guys!

If you have an anxiety disorder I highly advise against touching methamphetamine. If you absolutely must, make SURE you have a handful of benzodiazepines at the time. This is coming from (some form of) personal experience. I have an anxiety disorder and on occasion will abuse Dextroamphetamine in doses of 30-65mg with a redose of 20-50mg four hours later. I generally experience anxiety during the high but the benefits outweigh the positives at the present time. But once I start to come down I get the worst anxiety you could possibly think of, thinking my heart is about to explode and that I'm going to die of myocardial infarction. Taking 2.5mg-5.0mg Alprazolam (I have a high benzodiazepine tolerance, don't take this much) is the only thing that will stop the anxiety, followed by another 2.5mg Alprazolam four to five hours later as the effects of Dextroamphetamine seem to last an irregularly long time for me (I can still strongly feel the effects of a single recreational dose 8-12 hours later).

 

[kronedog]

you are doing good.

Try to make a rule for yourself that you will not self-medicate, and if you have anxiety you will talk with your doctor before adjusting your dose on your own.

If you have an anxiety disorder I highly advise against touching methamphetamine. If you absolutely must, make SURE you have a handful of benzodiazepines at the time. This is coming from (some form of) personal experience. I have an anxiety disorder and on occasion will abuse Dextroamphetamine in doses of 30-65mg with a redose of 20-50mg four hours later. I generally experience anxiety during the high but the benefits outweigh the positives at the present time. But once I start to come down I get the worst anxiety you could possibly think of, thinking my heart is about to explode and that I'm going to die of myocardial infarction. Taking 2.5mg-5.0mg Alprazolam (I have a high benzodiazepine tolerance, don't take this much) is the only thing that will stop the anxiety, followed by another 2.5mg Alprazolam four to five hours later as the effects of Dextroamphetamine seem to last an irregularly long time for me (I can still strongly feel the effects of a single recreational dose 8-12 hours later).

Thanks again for the responses. It's going to be about 25mg of Desoxn I'll be taking (I think thats the right dosage? I'm no meth expert) with a about 1-2mg of alprazolam on hand for the comedown along with some weed. If my anxiety doesn't gradually drop within the next couple weeks naturally (without aid of drugs) then I'm going to take your guys advice and just skip out on it this year. Cheers!

 

[WorldWarMe]

Thanks again for the responses. It's going to be about 25mg of Desoxn I'll be taking (I think thats the right dosage? I'm no meth expert) with a about 1-2mg of alprazolam on hand for the comedown along with some weed. If my anxiety doesn't gradually drop within the next couple weeks naturally (without aid of drugs) then I'm going to take your guys advice and just skip out on it this year. Cheers!

I don't mean to sound rude or pushy but this is a harm reduction forum. I don't advise smoking Cannabis at any time during any form of amphetamine highs if you have an anxiety disorder. I made the horrible mistake of taking a single toke off a joint (which a high cannabis tolerance) during a Dextroamphetamine high and I was so anxious I had to take Alprazolam to kill the high not even 1/4 way through. Cannabis can cause EXTREME anxiety when combined with Amphetamines, at least in my personal experience. The only Amphetamine I can smoke weed on is MDMA but that's due to its natural anxiolytic effects.

Overall, Methamphetamine + Cannabis = Total anxiety/panic meltdown. ESPECIALLY during the comedown.

I'm sure many disagree with me, which is fine, I'm just trying to help you out as much as possible and prevent you from taking on too much anxiety that you can handle. Methamphetamine greatly increases the heart rate and blood pressure and studies have shown that Cannabis can increase the heart rate by up to 50%. So, for example, if your heart rate on Methamphetamine is 120bpm (reasonable for the potency), smoking Cannabis could theoretically increase your heart rate up to 180bpm. That's a medical emergency and where EMT's draw the maximum line before injecting Benzodiazepines into their systems to lower the heart rate and blood pressure.

I personally do not recommend that combo at all. Please reconsider this.

 

[kronedog]

Thanks once again WorldWarMe for the advice and I thought about it, you're right smoking weed during the meth experience will probably be a catastrophe as much as I love weed. So weed is out of the picture for that night.


I'm also on 20mg of Celexa daily too forgot to mention that, don't know if that makes any difference when it comes to doing meth and the whole anxiety thing.

 

[SpinningFree]

IMHO, certain drugs are dependable and have the same effect on you regardless of the situation (ie, benzos- they just calm you down no matter what). On the other hand, certain drugs are "wildcards" (ie, any of your hallucinogens, shrooms, LSD, salvia) and are very context dependent and often no two experiences with these substances are alike. I consider weed a bit of a wildcard as it could to raise your blood pressure or heart rate (I've checked on myself) or it can mentally calm you down and help you "check-out", so to speak. I realize I'm basically just reinforcing WorldWarMe's point,as it is correct.

As for personal experience, I believe Desoxyn only comes in 5 mg pills. 25mg is a bit high if you haven't used it and have no regular experience with it. I'm not sure what your tolerance to stimulants in general is, but there is definitely some cross-tolerance (ie, if you took Adderall or Dextro you're going to have more tolerance and it will effect you less than if you haven't used them at all.)

Now for my own 2cents While I don't have a ton of experience with this substance, I have used it a bit. I must admit, it could be an incredibly helpful and beneficial drug to take, assuming you follow your dose and take breaks. It is more of a "clean" upper feeling than Adderall or Ritalin, and actually, I didn't notice my CNS go up as much as it does with other strong stimulants. It's a bit of a shame doctors are petrified to script it and no pharmacies carry it just because of the name... in reality, it is quite different than the uncontrolled, "dirty" street version. It could be a very useful tool if you use it as prescribed (which you're not....haha) . As far as you're experience, I don't want to repeat what has already been said and sound like it's a lecture, but do be careful and it does effect you for 8-12 hours with the comeup in the first hour or two. You could even take some of your dose, wait, and take the rest. You'll still get the "full feeling" since they last so long. Anyway, that's enough... happy tripping and be safe!

 

[T. Calderone]

Listen to worldwarme, please lay off the stims. Your earlier post you talked about coffee and that's one thing you can cut down on easily. But then you mentioned desoxyn, cocaine and marijuana combined with xanax. Meth once a year? How about meth never, stop illicit drug use because this will not end well for you. You have trouble enough already trying to be moderate with your prescribed medication.

 

[spyhunter2]

that is why I quit taking them, I go to have 1 k-pin and end up taking 7 or 8, plus the wd suck, I was also addicted to heroin. That wd was bad too. Anyway if you can be strong and take them how prescribed and it works for you good! but personally any benzos always get me in trouble sooner or later.