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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

What was the stone like?
So far the best one i have tried is K2 and summit both very strong.
Kronic and aussy gold are pretty shit, bad tasting and weak.
I used to smoke spice but that was years ago.
I suppose Rays HHH $45 love chocolates are now illegal also. I didn't mind them but i wouldn't pay for them. Whats with the high prices these crooks are chargin. Its meant to be cheaper than weed and not more expensive. Those people at kronic/billybong were such crooks with there high prices before the ban.


Right now smoking real weed and looking at this amount of kronic i got and wondering what happens if i get court with it.

Where are those guys on BL who used to test things like neo doves. We certainly got good info and discussion back then.
 
if there is a lack of worthwhile discussion of synthetic cannabinoids on bluelight, it could have something to do with the consensus being that they are unknown, risky, and that consuming them is against best harm minimisation advice.

i would once have savoured so many new drugs making their way into our black/grey market, but the untested nature of these compounds is nothing short of scary. especially when you consider the number of people smoking kronic or whatever.

IMO you're not missing out on anything by not trying them - smoke the REAL thing (tried, tested, proven over millennia) not this commercially produced, sucker-baiting horseshit. being lied to by drug dealers is bad enough, but when they're operating out of "legitimate" businesses and stores, i get a bit pissed off.

never thought i'd say it, but i'm glad my halfwit premier "barney" barnett banned it.
that's my two cents!
and i daresay a forum is only as good as its contributors, to the comment a few posts up.
 
drug_FUCKED said:
What was the stone like?
So far the best one i have tried is K2 and summit both very strong.
Kronic and aussy gold are pretty shit, bad tasting and weak.
I used to smoke spice but that was years ago.
I suppose Rays HHH $45 love chocolates are now illegal also. I didn't mind them but i wouldn't pay for them. Whats with the high prices these crooks are chargin. Its meant to be cheaper than weed and not more expensive. Those people at kronic/billybong were such crooks with there high prices before the ban.


Right now smoking real weed and looking at this amount of kronic i got and wondering what happens if i get court with it.

Where are those guys on BL who used to test things like neo doves. We certainly got good info and discussion back then.
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What was in those "Love Chocolates"... That's what I wanna know.
 
Some chocolates with JHW-*** from happy high herbs in a shape of a love heart.

spacejunk you have been a member since may so you probably dont know. Your glad they banned it! what! what else are you glad is banned? Prehaps we should all just take the same drugs cause they been around for a while and thats what everyone else takes.

Little by little we loose our rights as adults as more and more things get banned. Once something is banned we loose the chance to study the drug and once a drug is scheduled is soo hard to get permission to study it. Personally i think australia is going backwards with drug laws when the rest of the world is decriminalizing cannabis we are recently doing the opposite.
I want to experience all sorts of highs. Not just the stock standard. Look what happened to salvia. I bet you aint tried that cause it got banned years ago. Which is a shame.

I can't live the button-down life like you. I want it all: the terrifying lows, the dizzying highs, the creamy middles. Sure, I might offend a few of the bluenoses with my cocky stride and musky odors - oh, I'll never be the darling of the so-called "City Fathers" who cluck their tongues, stroke their beards, and talk about "What's to be done with this Homer Simpson?"
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Some times i think about what drugs the next generation will be using and it saddens me. They will miss out on the good stuff cause its long since been detected, banned and replaced by something far more toxic.

I personally have been smoking these synthetic blends for about 4 years and enjoyed trying the different types of stones. I also enjoyed the differences in high by taking them orally.
I wish i remembered more about all the ones i have tried but it has been such a large amount of time between trying them all. I think K2 and summit were the strongest. Spice diamond was pretty good but that was one of the first ones i tried. I dont recall much about my experimentation with pure stuff as it was a while ago and well I'm DRUG FUCKED.
 
marinol counts as a synthetic cannabinoid which i have been prescribed. i didnt enjoy it as much as actual herb due to the fact that it doesnt have the other cannabinoids like cbd and cbn and so on. marinol was a treat dont get me wrong, but it just isnt the same. and the "legal herb" is garbage, never tried and never will. i dont think wild lettuce would be a good smoke. anyone agree?
 
Kronic ban risks black market boom

Synthetic cannabis is the latest target in the war on drugs being fought in Australia, but experts say a ban could send it underground and onto the black market.

The drug has been legally sold in tobacconists and adult stores for four years under names like Kronic, K2 and Spice.

Synthetic cannabis is made from medicinal herbs like dimiana, sprayed with psychoactive chemicals. On some packaging it is "fragrance oil" and some products are marked as incense and "not for human consumption".

Governments became concerned when it began turning up among workers on Australian mine sites, but was undetectable in drug tests.

One after the other states are outlawing the drug, but Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation president Alex Wodak says more evidence is needed to prove drugs like Kronic are harmful.

"It is very low levels of evidence. It is really nothing more than anecdotal... and when parliaments are passing legislation you want something more than anecdote," he said.

One potentially dangerous side effect to banning Kronic is that users have already begun panic-buying and stockpiling the drug.

The legal market is drying up, and Robbie Swan from the national adult retail and entertainment association - or EROS - says it will go underground.

"All of those places who were selling it legally, making sure that miners weren't getting it and paying taxes and all that sort of stuff, those people will give it away," she said.

"What will happen is that people who don't care how old people are when they buy it will sell it.

"People who don't pay taxes will get hold of it and Australia will be the poorer. I mean it is a no-brainer. It is an absolute no-brainer."

Under the radar

In Western Australia the penalties for supplying the drug range to 25 years in jail, and in New South Wales it is being treated the same way as heroin.

New South Wales Mental Health Minister Kevin Humphries is an opponent of synthetic cannabis and he says it arrived in Australia under the radar.

"Where you have got synthetic, psychotic drugs like Kronic coming onto the market legally I think we have go a big issue and this is why we are taking steps to redress that," he said.

Mr Humphries says the fact it is showing up on work sites is a dangerous trend.

"Not only is this a mental health issue, it is a occupational health and safety issue, that is why we are taking steps this drug to take this off the market," he said.

Australian Drug Law Reform Foundation president Dr Alex Wodak says there is much that is unknown about the drug.

"We don't really know in detail what the effects and what the side effects of these drugs are," he said.

The known effects and strengths vary from euphoria and relaxation, while paranoia, nausea, high blood pressure and hallucinations are also possible.

There are anecdotal reports of users going to hospital with adverse reactions after taking Kronic and its other forms.

Doctors say its almost impossible to collect hospital statistics, but Australian Medical Association president Steve Hambleton says they know enough to advise governments to pursue bans.

"No-one should try this product. Nothing that you should burn and inhale can be deemed to be safe at all," he said.

The Kronic crackdown also comes as the decades-long global war on drugs has been deemed a devastating failure.

Past and present world leaders who are members of the global commission on drug policy say criminalisation and repressive measures have not effectively cut supply or consumption.

Dr Wodak says the drug war has been lost.

"These are all senior people and they said the war on drugs is unwinnable, it has failed and is futile and we have to start looking at other options including the legalisation of cannabis," he said.

Drug educator Paul Dillon says one of the new challenges is that the law has to play catch-up with science.

He says new concoctions are emerging and many are designed to get around current laws.

"Last year more than 40 new psychoactive substances were identified in Europe and that is the highest number ever recorded," he said.

"This is going to continue and the problem is of course some of these new substances are so far removed from what they originally wanted to be that they could be more dangerous."

Doctors believe these substances do harm and are urging governments to be vigilant.

The national medicines and poisons scheduling committee has met and discussed a national ban on synthetic cannabinoids, but it has not yet made a decision.
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spacejunk said:
if there is a lack of worthwhile discussion of synthetic cannabinoids on bluelight, it could have something to do with the consensus being that they are unknown, risky, and that consuming them is against best harm minimisation advice.

i would once have savoured so many new drugs making their way into our black/grey market, but the untested nature of these compounds is nothing short of scary. especially when you consider the number of people smoking kronic or whatever.

IMO you're not missing out on anything by not trying them - smoke the REAL thing (tried, tested, proven over millennia) not this commercially produced, sucker-baiting horseshit. being lied to by drug dealers is bad enough, but when they're operating out of "legitimate" businesses and stores, i get a bit pissed off.

never thought i'd say it, but i'm glad my halfwit premier "barney" barnett banned it.
that's my two cents!
and i daresay a forum is only as good as its contributors, to the comment a few posts up.
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Either way you're going to suffer side effects/have a negative impact. Does it really matter if you know what the negative impact is gonna be? You never know, every time you get in a car you could die. I personally think that people SHOULD be trying them to help advise others. Most people here are just taking the "Just say no"approach. It is not helping us with legislation and regulation of marijuana and other drugs.


There has been a lack of worthwhile discussion all across the board lately. Haven't any one noticed that members that have been here for years have abandoned BL, this place is slowly degrading. I will remain but at the moment AusDD doesn't look like it will have a future.
 
Alright I'll share my experience with kronic.

This was about a month ago and back then I had been like a month since I got stoned. My mate was out of town so I couldn't score, so I ordered some "Skunk" I think it was. It smelt really fruity, as in it smelt like pineapple or passionfruit or something. Smelt fake and kinda gross, but I chuffed a cone a third the size I would of pot. It smoked really easy, quickly and didn't taste too bad. Stoned in about five min. I did this through 3gm, gradually packing more over ten days(?).

I found it quite stoning and very flat, no change in emotions and none of the mild euphoria. I also found I had a ceiling dose, smoking more would only help if I had returned a good way to baseline. I didn't get any of the anxiety or the physical side effects that get talked about.

Reasons why it's not for beardface
1. nonsynthetic has more depth
2. nonsynthetic has more heights
3. Cost

I'm personally not too concerned about the "untested" nature of these compounds, but I have heard some bad stuff about long term use.
 
drug_FUCKED said:
I personally have been smoking these synthetic blends for about 4 years and enjoyed trying the different types of stones. I also enjoyed the differences in high by taking them orally.
I wish i remembered more about all the ones i have tried but it has been such a large amount of time between trying them all. I think K2 and summit were the strongest. Spice diamond was pretty good but that was one of the first ones i tried. I dont recall much about my experimentation with pure stuff as it was a while ago and well I'm DRUG FUCKED.
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Did you ever try the ozzie chill xtreme? That was the only blend I could smoke and actually relax... It seems to have vanished.
 
Bluelight degrading, nar, just less people comming here because no one cares about safety anymore since the decline of MDMA and oldies like me (been around since 2001 under various names) arn't partying like back then. *waves walking cane*

re: Kronic

My history: Heavy Pot user 2000 - mid 2010 until i got terribly sick with dual chest infections, gave up the bong, vaper ever since.

Tried Kronic last night

ROA: oral - Bong
Amount: 1/4 Cone aka fuckall

This stuff is strong, i believe the one i tried was pineapple something.

The high is very sativa like, all cerebral with zero body load. Felt like head was in a vice, had some relaxation from it, burning dry eyes etc but mind wasn't really racing.

I have no doubt a full cone of this stuff would have had me floored and greening out with high amounts of anxiety. I am sensitive these days to anxiety but avoid it with good moderation on my use of the green, i was worried at about the 30min mark i was going to green, started getting the cold sweat and heavy head feelings.

As others have said, its definatly a high, but only "half the high" of real stuff. I see no real issue with it apart from the unknown safety factor of smoking synthetic cannabinoids and the strength which could be toned down considerably. It does get the job done but i won't be buying it.

edit: the only other thing i took note of was, everyone that used it had very uniformly red eyes, not just the little vessels, but entire white going dark and red, also seemed to have changed the tone of skin around the eyes, but maybe everyone was just tired.
 
What if they discover an analog of say JHW-250 and it is better than THC???
Yeah WA changed there law from under an oz was personal and you just got a cannabis caution (i've had like 5 of these) to 10g. Which sucks cause you have to buy quarts.
Whats going on WA your laws are going the wrong way!

I am looking forward to trying some of the still legal synth cann this week. It kinda sucks that companys selling the stuff got this banned. I dont think they should be able to sell RC for smoking like that. What ray thorpe and these "herbal stores" do with selling RC for massive profit is the real problem. I'm all for them selling natural highs like schrooms and DMT.
But selling RCs hidden in tinctures and smoking blends that are not labeled in ingredients is wrong. I want to know what i am taking and what dose! Those people should be banned not the drug.
RCs should only be for informed intelligent research scientists like Bluelight members.
 
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