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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

Yeah thats the same way we get chosen, the key is to ask to see in the bag so that you know its a fair test. Then you have an idea where to get your ball from.

It's been banned by the company for about 2 months now, with supervisors having the option of getting people they suspect of smoking it tested.

Yesterday the policy changed so that it part of every normal drug test. The only word of mouth part is that it's only a few of the people tested getting their samples sent to perth for the JWH (or whatever they look for) analysis. That won't last long even if it is true.

They also banned planking this week, 7 people fired already.

Whats planking?
 
Why is this MP buying a bag of weed?

Why is this MP buying a bag of weed?
Heath Aston
June 12, 2011

Buyer's market ... Kevin Humphries with a bag of synthetic marijuana bought over the counter in Oxford Street. Photo: Steve Lunam
IT'S not every day that a minister of the crown gets snapped clutching a bag of ''weed'' on a busy city street.

But the NSW Minister for Mental Health, Kevin Humphries, acquired the synthetic marijuana in an attempt to highlight concerns about its use and sale.

Mr Humphries has this weekend asked police to test batches of ''Kronic'' and ''Northern Lights'', considered a high-potency synthetic cannabis, that is being sold legally over the counter across NSW.

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It is feared the products can have a potency up to 100 times higher than marijuana. Users have reported hallucinations, palpitations and even psychosis.

NSW is expected to join Western Australia in a crackdown on ''legal weed''.

The NSW government has become aware of miners in the Hunter using Kronic, which can be smoked and taken in pill form, during work shifts.

Mr Humphries, whose office bought a bag of the product over the counter in Sydney's Oxford Street, is calling for a national response. "Because of the reported popularity of this product by miners, its availability in the Hunter region, and the obvious OH&S issues this brings, I have expressed my concerns to the mining sector,'' he said.

Mental health advocates, including the state's chief psychiatrist, Associate Professor John Allan, are concerned at the use of Kronic and Northern Lights, which are being sold in tobacconists and bong shops and on the internet.

While there was no reliable research into Kronic, Professor Allan said it was known to contain high-potency cannabinoids.

''There is very clear evidence that regular use of cannabis by young people increases their risk of developing schizophrenia and other psychosis,'' he said.

The West Australian government has moved to outlaw its use.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/why-is-this-mp-buying-a-bag-of-weed-20110611-1fxzg.html#ixzz1P1hrwkr5

Link.
 
Kronic urine instant tests coming soon.

Kronic users beware

BY JACQUI JONES

10 Jun, 2011 04:00 AM


"A HUNTER company has developed a drug test to detect a synthetic cannabis previously untraceable under most workplace checks.
The substance, with the street name Kronic, has gained popularity among users as it is sold legally over the counter in the Hunter and over the internet.

Until now it has not been detectable in many forms of workplace drug testing.

Kronic is said to be flourishing in industries such as mining, construction and manufacturing.

Concern has been raised about people potentially working under the influence in these fields, which often require employees to operate expensive and heavy machinery.

Drug Test Australia, which has its head office at Mayfield North, has developed a system for checking saliva and urine samples for traces of Kronic.

The company will do most tests on site, with results analysed in a laboratory.

The saliva sample test is expected to be in use within two weeks and the urine sample test within a month."

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http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/kronic-users-beware/2190976.aspx

There you go folks. That didn't take as long as expected either.

Kind of annoying how they have both saliva and urine tests available, but will once again go down the urine path ensuring that they are not just testing to see if you are actually under the influence at work, but testing instead to see if in your own private time you have been indulging.
 
The substance, with the street name Kronic

it's no street term, it's what it's marketed under. i wonder why Kronic is under so much fire as compared to these other blends available as well? is it because it seems the be the end users (er, bluelighters?) choice.

they obviously don't do too much of their own research for these articles (though there's a distinct lack of information available overall, so we gotta give some credit) or are just confused with the term "chronic" as an american term for wherever it sits on their ratings system, ie - chronic, brick weed, mids, etc.

thanks againfor the update, juvenile. who'da thunk two days after our pm's asking when they'd come up with a test they've announced one, ha! unless they're pulling the wool over our eyes in the mean time until they come up with something more substantial to feed us.
 
Western Australia to ban fake marijuana Kronic

WESTERN Australia will become one of the first states in Australia to ban the legal synthetic cannabis product Kronic.
WA Health Minister Kim Hames announced the government will ban synthetic cannabinoids after he expressed concern over their use last week.

Marketed as "legal weed", the company behind Kronic said there had never been any reports of negative side-effects in the seven years it has been on the market.

However, the WA branch of the Australian Medical Association (AMA) has been calling for Kronic to be outlawed, saying it had dangerous side-effects and users are being treated at emergency departments.

AMA (WA) President Associate Professor David Mountain welcomed the ban and said it was timely with a "large number of synthetic drugs coming into the pipeline which would be arriving in WA, if they hadn't already".

But Associate Professor Mountain called for a national approach.

"We certainly need a more sensible approach rather than waiting for things to happen and try to respond in an ad hoc way," Assoc Prof Mountain told AAP.

"The states, territories and federal government need to sit down and decide how they're going deal with these things."

Kronic has already been banned in 16 countries.

According to the AMA, using Kronic can cause severe paranoia, anxiety and panic attacks, high heart rates, agitation and restlessness.

Assoc Prof Mountain said the longer-term use of synthetic cannabinoids was not yet known but if it worked in a similar way to cannabis then there was the risk users could develop psychosis.

"We've had some cases where the drug has induced a psychotic episode for a short-lived period while some of them have come to emergency departments with their hearts racing, feeling anxious or upset."

Earlier in June, Tasmania announced it would move to ban synthetic cannabinoids.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...ic/story-e6frfku0-1226074353201#ixzz1P8OUXrdx

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My guess is there was probably some lobbying on behalf of the mining companies too here in WA. Oh well, the only thing Kronic had going for it over Weed was that it wouldn't show up in work place drug tests, and since that has already been stopped, it becoming illegal won't really change much.
 
I've been a regular weed consumer for much of my life and was thrilled to read about Kronic etc in the local paper. I headed straight for the sex shop and bought a bag of Tropical Something.
I did a cone and found the stuff was very strong. I had to sit down for five or ten minutes. The stone then settled down and I remember thinking 'This is great, no longer will I have to hunt around for illegal material. This is more than enough.'
Then I shut my eyes. Now, when I'm stoned with marijuana I'll shut my eyes and my mind will go off wandering, all manner of neurons will meet one another and I'll have great (and silly) ideas. I do a lot of my creative work this way.
So I close my eyes under Kronic and I get nothing but a pulsing blink light effect. No mind voyages, no ideas only blink blink.
My sad conclusion is that the Kronic stone may well be strong but it has no depth whatsoever.
After an hour or so I 'came down' quite abruptly and had another cone. It and subsequent cones that day had little effect save produce a really nasty sick headache.
This sick headache lasted for two days afterwards and has left me with no desire to try the Kronic again. What a shame!
I suspect there's something ugly and dangerous in it. Certainly that's what my body is trying to tell me.
 
"Dear xxxx Customer,

We just wanted to let you know that for a LIMITED TIME ONLY we have reduced prices on blablabla upto 50% OFF!!!

...yadayadayada ...

PLEASE NOTE THAT blablabla HAS A BRAND NEW FORMULA, OUR STRONGEST FORMULA TO DATE, LEGAL IN ALL AUSTRALIAN STATES INCLUDING WESTERN AUSTRALIA AND TASMANIA.

EVEN THOUGH THIS NEW FORMULA IS LEGAL IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA & TASMANIA, WE WILL NOT BE TAKING ORDERS FOR WESTERN AUSTRALIA & TASMANIA AFTER 12pm June 16, 2011.

ALL WA AND TASMANIAN PURCHASERS MUST SUBMIT THEIR ORDER BEFORE THIS TIME!
Remember to use responsibly at all times ;)"


A mate just forwarded me the email telling me to stock up while we can. Stuff that for a joke! It is now going to get you in the same amount of trouble as Cannabis? if you get caught with it I think? Plus you can't evade drug tests anyway, so it's now just achieved the status of pointless in my opinion. It costs more, does less, negative effects are unknown, who wants it?

What intrigued me about the email is, they claim the "new" formula is legal in WA, but won't be taking orders after June 16.
I assume the email is a whole heap of tricky wording by means of not mentioning dates of when it is and isn't legal. The "new" formula is probably exactly the same as the "old" formula and neither will be legal after the 17th in W.A.
 
haha wow, get it while you can!

*silly solly's sirens going off*

i wouldn't expect any new product either, just the same shit marketed cheaper to get it off their hands while the heat is now on.
 
hahahahahah what a way to offload a fuck tonne of semi legal (and soon to be illegal) drugs :|

did anyone ever think of the profit the creators of 'kronic' have made? Its got to be in the tens of 1000s, possibly hundreds.... I mean, all they did was import a shitload of JWH xxx for next to nothing and infuse it with some random herb which also cost fuck all and then flogged it off for a price more expensive than regular buds! :\

ohwell, atleast they have an early retirement :p
 
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Goodbye synthetics...LOL @ WA ban Smoke up

Synthetic pot gets chop
Nino Bucci
June 16, 2011

Synthetic cannabis Kronic.

Synthetic cannabis Kronic.

SYNTHETIC cannabis that can be bought legally by children as young as 10 is expected to be banned in Victoria.

The drug has been being sold under the brand name Kronic - as well as Purple Haze, Voodoo and Kaos - for as little as $19 a gram. This is less than the market price for illegal marijuana.

The synthetic version of the drug is made from herbs and chemicals including tetrahydrocannabinol, the active substance in cannabis.
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After Western Australia and Tasmania moved this week to outlaw synthetic cannabis, Premier Ted Baillieu said yesterday his government was working to define the problem before deciding on legislation.

"Common sense will tell you that any drug which is designed to manipulate people's minds is a potential issue and this drug, as I understand it, caused significant problems in communities already," he said.

But the drug's makers claim they have already found a way to get around the ban in WA. They announced on their website a new "Aussie Gold" formula that they said would still be legal.

The makers also invited users to "blaze" the last of their stashes at a state-funded music venue in Perth tonight, with the concert to finish one minute before the substance becomes illegal.

But drug reform lobbyists say the rise of products such as Kronic show Australia should move to legalise marijuana.

Families and Friends for Drug Law Reform president Brian McConnell said legalisation would allow the government to regulate markets and stop development of products designed to bring about a similar high.

"The only way drug markets are controlled at the moment is through violence from criminals," he said.

Jon Currie, of the department of addiction medicine at St Vincent's Hospital, said one or two people each week were seeking help because of Kronic. He said it was not typically the main cause of injuries or illness but sometimes contributed to car accidents or posed a risk when mixed with other drugs.

"Basically, you just change a few molecules and it becomes no longer illegal," he said.

Source: The Age Website


Sif buy that for $19 a gram....expensive as....
 
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