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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

I understand the concern but ultimately BL is here as a harm reduction resource, which means that new substances are allowed to be brought up here.

Whilst posts like ozbb's aren't forbidden, if you're concerned, the best thing to do is let the post fly under the radar by not bumping it. That post was from March, this thread was lurking in the depths until you bumped it to the front page.
 
Why do you think Aussies would have more experience with this than somewhere else? Every cunt and his dog knows a dealer here, we don't have to resort to this shit.
 
Why do you think Aussies would have more experience with this than somewhere else? Every cunt and his dog knows a dealer here, we don't have to resort to this shit.

I don't see what you're getting at here? BL is here to provide info about substances such as this. Whether or not it's something you'd consider worthwhile using isn't really relevant.
 
You don't see where I'm getting at? I know BL is here to provide information, and I'm also under the impression synthetic cannabinoids are more popular in the US than Australia, hence my assumption that making a thread in N&SDD would get more/better replies than AusDD.
 
^ He was asking about the legality of a certain substance, since he posted it in Australian Drug Discussion I am assuming he lives in Australia. Even if you were to assume synthetic cannabanoids were more popular in the US why do you think they would be more informed of its legal status in Australia?
 
You don't see where I'm getting at? I know BL is here to provide information, and I'm also under the impression synthetic cannabinoids are more popular in the US than Australia, hence my assumption that making a thread in N&SDD would get more/better replies than AusDD.

I don't see why you posted in such a rude and judgemental way. Please feel free to offer advice on where someone can find further information on what they're looking for, but let the mods decide whether a post/thread is worthwhile in this forum.
 
It's really funny when some people think that they are only one of a few people who know of a particular substance. A high percentage of people have internet these days and don't think that LE isn't up to date with a lot of these research chems.
 
He did mention that he thought it was legal, but the title of the thread was asking if anybody had tried it. I don't think they'd be more knowledgeable of our legal system, I do think there's a better chance of more of them having tried it, though.
My post may have been rude, but I don't think it was judgmental. It's well known that Australia is full of Cannabis, and most people are able to purchase Cannabis, so there would naturally be less instances of people smoking synthetic Cannabinoids in order to experience the effects of Cannabis when you can get the real thing so easily.
I did offer advice, in the form of questioning why he thinks he will find more people with experience in Australia. I also reported the thread as to let mods handle it, as I'm not a mod and I don't act like one.
If my post is a problem just delete it and pm me and tell me why, there's no need to fill up a thread with this bullshit. And if me not wanting AusDD or threads cluttered with OT posts, or thinking people will have better luck in other sections of the forum bothers you, then I'm not sure what to suggest. I know I'm not a mod and I don't try to act like one, but I do care for the quality of BL.
I don't know what else to say in order to clear this up, but if you've got any other comments or questions I'll get back to you on it.
 
DeathDomokun said:
It's well known that Australia is full of Cannabis, and most people are able to purchase Cannabis, so there would naturally be less instances of people smoking synthetic Cannabinoids in order to experience the effects of Cannabis when you can get the real thing so easily.

Anecdotal evidence isn't sufficient to support this contention DeathDomokun. For someone who likes others to provide sources to substantiate their claims, I would've thought you'd be aware of this flaw in your argument. Furthermore, I would suggest that 23 pages on synthetic cannabinoids in Australia suggests that the derision in your original post was unfounded. You assumed that this thread was not appropriate for Aus DD, and you are incorrect.

I have made it clear that your post was inappropriate and rude. I have also made it clear that this problem was with the tone and delivery of your message. Defending your post as advice is a farce and one that I'll spend no time humouring. If you contend that you don't 'act like a mod', don't be so arrogant as to tell me how to deal with an inappropriate post.

The situation should now be clear to you. I trust that you will post more wisely in future.
 
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Cannabis itself is decriminalized in some states

Which states and territories have decriminalised cannabis?

The following states and territories have decriminalised minor cannabis offences. Any cannabis offence is still illegal in these areas.

Australian Capital Territory
The Australian Capital Territory introduced a civil penalty system for the possession of ‘small amounts’ of cannabis in 1993. If someone is caught with up to two non-hydroponic cannabis plants, or up to 25 grams of marijuana (cannabis plant material), they receive a $100 fine with 60 days to expiate (pay the fine) instead of a criminal charge. Instead of paying the fine, the person may choose to attend a drug assessment and treatment program.

South Australia
In 1987, South Australia was the first state to decriminalise minor cannabis offences. The possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana, 20 grams of hash (the resin from the cannabis plant), one non-hydroponic plant or cannabis smoking equipment leads to a fine from $50 to $150 with 60 days to expiate.

Northern Territory
Since 1996, adults found in possession of up to 50 grams of marijuana, one gram of hash oil, 10 grams of hash or cannabis seed, or two non-hydroponic plants can be fined $200 with 28 days to expiate rather than face a criminal charge.

What happens in other states?
In the rest of Australia, any cannabis offence is a criminal offence. If someone is charged with possession of cannabis in these areas and found guilty, they could receive a large fine or jail time and will have a criminal record.

It is unlikely, however that someone caught with a small amount of cannabis for the first time would receive a criminal conviction, because of the diversion programs that run in these states. Diversion programs aim to divert non-violent drug offenders away from the criminal justice system and into appropriate assessment, education and treatment services. These programs aim to break the criminal cycle associated with illicit drug use by addressing the underlying causes of criminal activity and by encouraging offenders to tackle their drug problems early.

It should be noted that it is usually up to the police officer whether or not to ‘divert’ the offender or charge them. Also, juveniles (those aged under 18 years), or people who have a history of drug offences or violence are ineligible for diversion. Juveniles may be treated under individual state laws such as the Young Offenders Act 1997 (NSW) which seeks to steer young offenders away from the court by directing them to alternative forms of intervention.

New South Wales
If someone is caught with up to 15 grams of cannabis in New South Wales, they may receive a ‘caution’ from the police officer, which includes information about the harms associated with cannabis use and a number to call for drug-related information or referral. Only two cautions are allowed to be given to the same person.

Victoria
A police officer may give someone a caution and offer them the opportunity to attend a cannabis education program if they are caught with no more than 50 grams of cannabis. Like New South Wales, only two cautions are allowed to be given to the one person.

Tasmania
Someone found in the possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis can be given a caution up to three times in ten years. For the first caution, information and referral is provided. A brief intervention is given with the second caution. On the third and final caution, the offender must be assessed for drug dependence and attend either a brief intervention or treatment program.

Queensland
Police officers in Queensland offer someone the option of diversion if they are found in possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis. This is the only state in which diversion must be offered to a minor cannabis offender – elsewhere, it is up to the police officers whether or not they offer diversion or charge the offender. The diversion includes a mandatory assessment and brief intervention program. Only one offer of diversion is allowed per person.

Western Australia
In 2004 Western Australia introduced a civil penalty scheme for cannabis possession.

With a change of government in 2008 this scheme was overturned. As of August 2011, individuals in possession of not more than 10 grams of harvested cannabis and/or a used smoking implement who have no prior cannabis offences will be required to attend a Cannabis Intervention Session (CIS) within 28 days or receive a cannabis conviction for the offence. All cannabis cultivation offences will attract a criminal conviction.
 
Australian Capital Territory
The Australian Capital Territory introduced a civil penalty system for the possession of ‘small amounts’ of cannabis in 1993. If someone is caught with up to two non-hydroponic cannabis plants, or up to 25 grams of marijuana (cannabis plant material), they receive a $100 fine with 60 days to expiate (pay the fine) instead of a criminal charge. Instead of paying the fine, the person may choose to attend a drug assessment and treatment program.

Excellent post Poledriver!

In the A.C.T. we are now only allowed to have one plant by non-hydroponic means.
 
When you use the pure powders and mix particular products in particular ratio's Synthetic Cannabis is far far more potent than natural Cannabis.

My first experience with pure JWH-018 got me to a head space I had never been able to get to in 18 years of using natural Cannabis. I could then get back there whenever I wanted. If there was a drop in potency i'd just smoke more powder.

The only people who say Synthetics are rubbish are the people that have only used blends or not used the powders correctly IMO. Anyone who has owned pure powder will warn you about it.
 
I should have put the url, its on my other computer, it said it was from Nov last yr, so yeah things change.

I deleted my post saying it sounded like Death has been smoking too much of that strong SA hydro.
 
Although the laws can be confusing, you won't get a criminal sentence if the law finds you are in possession of Cannabis. You can get a fine (of up to $500) here in SA, which is the definition of decriminalisation AFAIK.
http://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/LZ...OUS DRUG OFFENCES) AMENDMENT ACT 2005_80.aspx
Page 17/18 for possession for personal use/without intent to supply, if you want the source.
There's no such thing as smoking too much, if anything I haven't been smoking enough lately.
 
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I had to remove a few more posts today, can we please cut the OT and abusive shit and get back on topic.

@ DeathDomokun, while I am a firm believer that cannabis is probably the least harmful drug out there, to make a blanket statement that there is no such thing as smoking too much is just plain silly and goes against HR. There are some irrefutable drawbacks to cannabis abuse and to suggest otherwise is just irresponsible.

That was some interesting information in regards to cannabis laws, however this is the synthetic cannabanoids thread. Lets try stay on topic and post any further cannabis discussion in the relevant thread. :)
 
I understand Cannabis is not completely benign, but I've had no ill effects from my use. When I say there's no such thing as smoking too much, I'm referring to myself because there hasn't been for me in my experience. I think there is such thing as smoking too much in the sense of smoking before work or when you have some shit to do when you should be sober, but as far as coming home and ripping the bong I could probably smoke until I pass out with the only negative effects being to my refrigerator/cupboards. As far as Cannabis hyperemesis goes, there aren't many reports on it and it ceases when your Cannabis intake does. If Cannabis is affecting your life negatively, you're smoking too much. I've never smoked too much, but if I do I'll let you guys know.
I know this is the synthetic cannabinoids thread and I wasn't planning on making my last OT post after foots, but I just got a little agitated by this guy. Sorry.
 
I was fine smoking LOL and a few other synthetic brands, then I took one hit of some shit called demon or something and thought I was going to die, had some mild hallucinations. Wasn't like Mary Jane at all :/ Don't smoke anything but weed now. :P'
 
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