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Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

lovepsychadelics said:
It's true smoking shit kills your lungs but I've quit the smokes and weed over a year ago (drug tests/work) and I didn't have this fucking horrid cough, sounds like I have CF or COPD like some 80 year old. Pity there is not a heap of info on long term effects of some of the new synthetics especially AM 2201/2233 etc other then it produces fluoroacetate as a metabolite. This would be fine if smoked occasionally but I have been smoking way to much. The short high of the drug means I probably smoke more of it compared to if I was still smoking weed. I guess what i'm trying to say is don't be an idiot like me and end up sounding like someone with Cheyne-Stokes.
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Thanks for the report mate...will most definitely be passing this along to a few people who are just starting to get stuck into the synthetics as a total cannabis replacement. HR for the win.

Just to be clear, are you using the actual raw chemical or a preparation made by somebody? The people I know are just using the raw powder on aluminium foil...I know literally nothing about these synthetics like what's thought of as the best way to use them.

Also - obviously you're not smoking the same amount on weight:weight compared to cannabis if you're using the raw stuff.
 
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Welcome to Bluelight lovepsychadelics. Please continue to post about your experiences as they are appreciated here.
 
I've had raw chemicals and the pre prepared stuff, I haven't had raw chemical for over 2 months. With the pre-prepared stuff you are smoking who knows what chemicals, some products have lab reports that tell you what they dont have. I had developed a bit of an addiction so I didn't really care that much as long as it was not to much hastle and cost involved.Pre prepared you end up smoking more weight then cannabis cause of the short duration of effects and it ends up costing more. Smoking the stuff without a carrier herb you need some acurate digital scales especially for 2201. Foil works, you can vap them whatever works. I found smoking the pure RC pre ban i'd cough up some nasty shit the next day, almost as if i had plastic in my lungs. A dose of pure AM 2201 is 2-5mg I once guessed 10 mg eyeballing it and ended up on the floor unable to move LOL. (probably more like 20mg.) I was hooked I loved smoking aminoalkylindoles but it has had a bad impact on my health. One of my friends had seizures smoking some incense blends. Hope this helps, I'm not smoking this stuff ever again.
 
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Has anyone tried ****** incense before? I ordered their new line of incense *****, should be getting it this week just wondering what I can expect if anyone has tried it or any of ****** products. By the way, I am not pushing this incense in anyway I just want to know what I can expect >.<
 
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I had to remove a few posts, can we please refrain from getting too specific about vendors or the liklihood of certain packages getting through customs. We are really going to have to get a little tougher on this shit if the warnings keep getting ignored.

At this point I am starting to question the value in this thread. While there has undoubtedly been some useful contributions to this thread I feel that lately more and more they are being overshadowed by talk that contravenes guildelines as well as somewhat OT banter that doesn't really offer much benefit. The use of synthetic cannabanoids it would seem has peaked and is on the way down, instead of solid sources it seems that more and more herbal incence companies have a very short lived existence and it is commonplace for users to frequently switch between unknown blends. Lately there have been as many or more complaints about people ripped off as there are useful advice on the use of these blends, that is not what bluelight is here for, I am sure there are other sights for reviewing sources of dubious "incense blends".

Please if you choose to contribute to this thread actually contribute and make it a worthwhile thread as opposed to one filled with nonsense.
 
I was just reading on another forum that the incense that has been talked about most recently in this thread was analyzed and did not contain the substance that was claimed. Apparently even the vendor didn't know about this.
 
Laws aim to stub out artificial dope
Courier Mail: October 14, 2011
New changes to the law have been introduced in Queensland’s State Parliament this week which will make the sale of Kronic and other synthetic drugs “even harder” than it currently is. Attorney-General Paul Lucas said “police would no longer have to prove a substance had the same effect as a banned drug, only that it is intended to have the same effect under the proposed amendments to the Drugs Misuse Act.” This will stop producers of Kronic “from changing the ingredients to escape prosecution.” A proposed new offence has also been introduced under the Act, “which would mean people found in possession of the chemicals used to make illegal drugs could face trafficking charges.”
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http://ncpic.org.au/ncpic/media/media-watch/article/laws-aim-to-stub-out-artificial-dope
 
It's not an open forum, it's a forum with a set of rules that you agreed to, and the first rule is NO SOURCE DISCUSSION. Despite that, this thread is fucking full of it. I'm going to try and go back and weed it all out, if I miss some, don't whine about it being inconsistent, report it and we'll deal with it. btw, no source discussion means just that. No more hints or clues or codes, just don't talk about sources, OK? You've had enough warnings, infractions will be handed out.
 
^ Agreed. There are forums where you can discuss vendors and give them reviews and rant about how they ripped you off or sent out bad/dangerous products, but we don't allow source discussion here on BL. Warnings about dangerous products are one thing; being angry because a vendor gave you a bad/inferior quality product is another.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ Agreed. There are forums where you can discuss vendors and give them reviews and rant about how they ripped you off or sent out bad/dangerous products, but we don't allow source discussion here on BL. Warnings about dangerous products are one thing; being angry because a vendor gave you a bad/inferior quality product is another.
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I think you mean:
these aren't forums where you can discuss vendors and give them reviews and rant about how they ripped you off .....
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:)
 
he said "there are* forums where you CAN disscuss vendors"
 
^ AFA is right; what I was trying to get across is that there are sites out there dedicated to review of vendors and where you can post to your heart's delight about how great or how dodgy a particular vendor is.

As for the Greenlighter thing; yeah that is strange... I think maybe it takes a little while for it to kick in now? So that if people are just posting crap to get Bluelighter status they don't get it right away? I don't know I should really keep up with these type of things.
 
Mr Blonde said:
As for the Greenlighter thing; yeah that is strange... I think maybe it takes a little while for it to kick in now? So that if people are just posting crap to get Bluelighter status they don't get it right away? I don't know I should really keep up with these type of things.
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Just had a look in the support thread and found this:

Once you have made 50 posts, you will become a Bluelighter and the above privileges will be granted. Please note that it can sometimes take up to 24 hours for this change to take affect, so please be patient.
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I am clearly an offender about mentioning vendors and I apologize, I will be honest I didn't read the guidelines (Clearly). I just want to explain however, this was really the only active forum I found which people are actually knowledgeable about incense and I was just doing my research to see whether certain incenses are safe. I wanted to share my experiences to alert people who were thinking of trying particular incenses, if it was worthwhile.

I came to the conclusion that obviously the real stuff is by far safer and healthier than using incense, by far!!
 
Thank you Vader, d_m and Mr B for the reminder about our "no source discussion" rule. It is for legal reasons that we have this rule in place. It is illegal to buy, sell and/or to possess any illegal substances, and as you all know, the sale and use of synthetic cannabinoids are now banned in Australia and New Zealand.

If anyone needs a refresher on the rules of Bluelight (which you all agreed to when signing up to Bluelight ;)) please take a few moments to read them here:
Bluelight User Agreement
 
^ If I live in QLD can I post sources until they are officially listed?

Seriously though, they are covered by analogue acts in every state except Victoria (which still might not have an analogue act, not sure). Not that those laws seem to get much use.

Oh and the territories as well I guess. I forget those exist. :)

EDIT: Oh and I guess I should post another serious thing; even if the substances in question are legal, BL wasn't created and isn't run to disseminate sources for these drugs. We are here so that people can learn and keep themselves from harm.

I know you all this Jakeperson, that's more directed at others who haven't read the guidelines.
 
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