college_dropout said:House & Electro fans would say yes, Hardstyle fans would say no.
Softer trance definitely isn't imo, hard trance is but it's dying out amongst all the hardstyle.
I don't consider Above & Beyond to be rave but my mate who's a big electro nut considers them too 'hard' for him to dance to, or the beat's too fast or some shit like that.
I'm a massive minimal/prog/tech/breaks head and i would call them "raves". It's all in the eyes of the beholder as far as im concerned. As long as you're having a good time, who gives a fuck what its called.
