kryalkastleE
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Super Important - Drugs and Driving
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DQ
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i don't think this should necessarily be about testing.
you have to be careful when talking about the importance of testing not to encourage an attitude something like, "if i can get away with driving home without getting caught, then it's ok", which is clearly the wrong way to think about this sort of thing.
IMHO this is an issue about taking personal responsibility for your own decisions and actions. You shouldn't drive home in an unfit state, but not cos you might get caught (let's face it, you probably won't get caught); but because it's just THE WRONG THING TO DO. it's not FAIR to put others' lives at risk, and it's not worth putting your own at risk.
so i tend to think that issues of drug/alcohol/fatigue testing drivers are important (and do provide some deterrent); but i think it's more important to emphasise the importance of being responsible for your own actions.
think about it before you take your car to the next party, people.
indra
Bluelighter
Car accidents can happen in no time at all. I was drving up to drill once, awake, alert, all that... Making a turn(I was in the left lane) I heard the rumble strip. I braked a litle and turned to the right to correct, next thing I know the car is spinning like a top and bouncing off the guard rail.
Make sure you are sober at the very very least, and not tired! One of the most frightening drives I had to take was on I-95 after a party... the debate in my mind was "Will the frequent stop lights on US-1, or the greater focus required on I-95, keep me awake better?". It isn't good to get yourself in that situation where road choice is based on how likely you will fall asleep on each of the options. Add drugs to the mix(thank god I had been sober the night before) and you(and others) are as good as dead.
Make sure you are sober at the very very least, and not tired! One of the most frightening drives I had to take was on I-95 after a party... the debate in my mind was "Will the frequent stop lights on US-1, or the greater focus required on I-95, keep me awake better?". It isn't good to get yourself in that situation where road choice is based on how likely you will fall asleep on each of the options. Add drugs to the mix(thank god I had been sober the night before) and you(and others) are as good as dead.
anfalicious
Bluelighter
DQ, I'm quite suprised at your reaction to it all, in a good way. I am not even going to begin to say I can understand your pain, I can't, and I definately don't condone what she did, but to realise that the punishment she will give herself for the rest of her life is bigger than anything the state can impose.
Miss Flea
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My Appreciation
Once cooked, rice cannot turn back into grains.
- Chinese proverb
It's been nearly a year since I last visited Bluelight. How uplifting to see that this story has reached so many people, some replying but no doubt many more who have sent their sympathies in textual silence.
Perhaps even some for whom this story has changed their attitudes or (more importantly?) their actions on the road.
I'm so proud of you DQ. And I'm proud of the team of moderators who oversee this topic. Thank you for everything.
If nothing else from the thousands of forums, this topic alone now makes me proud to be a Bluelighter.
- Miss Flea
Once cooked, rice cannot turn back into grains.
- Chinese proverb
It's been nearly a year since I last visited Bluelight. How uplifting to see that this story has reached so many people, some replying but no doubt many more who have sent their sympathies in textual silence.
Perhaps even some for whom this story has changed their attitudes or (more importantly?) their actions on the road.
I'm so proud of you DQ. And I'm proud of the team of moderators who oversee this topic. Thank you for everything.
If nothing else from the thousands of forums, this topic alone now makes me proud to be a Bluelighter.
- Miss Flea
DQ
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and now the victorian police are introducing road-side random drug-tests. fantastic, i say!
i'm looking forward to seeing the panic on people's faces when they're walking to their cars after a party, only to realise there's a bunch of cops waiting to test them on the way out of the carpark. should induce more people to take the safer PT/taxi options after parties
i'm looking forward to seeing the panic on people's faces when they're walking to their cars after a party, only to realise there's a bunch of cops waiting to test them on the way out of the carpark. should induce more people to take the safer PT/taxi options after parties
onetwothreefour
Bluelight Crew
^^^ it's good to a point. i think it's great that it's being introduced to stop people driving home after a night out (i really dislike the idea of people doing this, for obvious reasons), but the tests are probably not going to work as well as they theoretically should when it all gets going...
there's some good discussion of the issue here.
there's some good discussion of the issue here.
kryalkastleE
Bluelighter
has the road side drug testing been approved in victoria?
cos in qld they aren't letting it go through but introducing sobriety tests instead?
cos in qld they aren't letting it go through but introducing sobriety tests instead?
£il £izziÊ
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DQ i want to thank you for sharing this on the board with us, this weekend a good mate of mine drove while he was still very much under the influence of bikkies, like he does most weekends, he had another mate in the car, who wasn't wearing a seatbelt, driving home he had an accident, lucky for them it was a very minor accident and no one else was involved, but the odds were against them, it could have been so much worse. This mate comes from a family of cyclists and i'm sending him the link to this thread in the hope that this message will hit home to him.
thanks again for sharing.
thanks again for sharing.
DQ
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sometimes i feel stigmatised by this thread. i feel like i'm putting a downer on people's day by making them read this. I feel awkward meeting people who have read all this before they meet me, because i feel like it colours their perception of me in a certain serious way, which is not necessarily representative of what i'm really like. not that i've met any new bluelighters for a bloody long time, but anyway.
but it's nice when people say the thread makes a difference, it makes it feel like what i've said has been worth it. i hardly post here now, my life has moved on from parties and bluelight, but i check in every so often to see who's still around. for the new people who haven't met me, maybe one day i'll rock up to a meetup and not know anyone just like i did two and a half years ago at Wild Things 2
but it's nice when people say the thread makes a difference, it makes it feel like what i've said has been worth it. i hardly post here now, my life has moved on from parties and bluelight, but i check in every so often to see who's still around. for the new people who haven't met me, maybe one day i'll rock up to a meetup and not know anyone just like i did two and a half years ago at Wild Things 2
.dR spgeddi
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yes it has... and we are all still trying to get a handle on it.kryalkastleE said:
theyre blitzing this weekend i here.
As for the consideration that leaving with the pack makes you less likely to be caught by the police and swab tested. Consider this, last year at Earthcore, they setup a booze bus just out on the main road.
I'm pretty sure everyone had to drive through this. Now consider that inclusion of swab testing into the equation ... needless to say, the best way to not get caught is to not be doing anything wrong.
Designated drivers are a wise choice for all. If you weren't convinced by this thread, then be convinced that there is a chance you could be caught now.
I'm pretty sure everyone had to drive through this. Now consider that inclusion of swab testing into the equation ... needless to say, the best way to not get caught is to not be doing anything wrong.
Designated drivers are a wise choice for all. If you weren't convinced by this thread, then be convinced that there is a chance you could be caught now.
dexter_stayne
Bluelighter
experience.
went to a rave with my gf, she's only new to the scene but silly me decided to keep her pill for pill on what i was taking. she 'smacked out' halfway throughout the night and asked me to take her home. this was of course 10 minutes before i'd dropped my third pill.
i was driving and stupid stupid me agreed to drive her home then and there. thank god the rave was out in the middle of nowhere and lane cove road at 3/4am was deserted. I was all over the place. i had to use all 3 lanes just to stay on the road. i didnt see turns coming on the road, hallucinated, saw people, ?wire? on the road. At one stage the road turned a sharp right and i didnt see it. I mounted the left hand kerb scraping my wheels and chassis, sending sparks flying from the back of my car.
now kids, my car is ok, but that adrenaline rush of seeing your car half-explode and u almost dying is enough to make you peak too damn hard to be comfortable.
i was scared that i was gunna kill both myself and my gf, so we pulled over and i danced it off while she slept.
i love driving home scattered in the morning... but dont do it whilst still buzzing
went to a rave with my gf, she's only new to the scene but silly me decided to keep her pill for pill on what i was taking. she 'smacked out' halfway throughout the night and asked me to take her home. this was of course 10 minutes before i'd dropped my third pill.
i was driving and stupid stupid me agreed to drive her home then and there. thank god the rave was out in the middle of nowhere and lane cove road at 3/4am was deserted. I was all over the place. i had to use all 3 lanes just to stay on the road. i didnt see turns coming on the road, hallucinated, saw people, ?wire? on the road. At one stage the road turned a sharp right and i didnt see it. I mounted the left hand kerb scraping my wheels and chassis, sending sparks flying from the back of my car.
now kids, my car is ok, but that adrenaline rush of seeing your car half-explode and u almost dying is enough to make you peak too damn hard to be comfortable.
i was scared that i was gunna kill both myself and my gf, so we pulled over and i danced it off while she slept.
i love driving home scattered in the morning... but dont do it whilst still buzzing
anna!
Bluelight Crew
You knew you'd had 3 pills. Why didn't you just put her in a taxi? Or even put you both in a taxi?
I hope people refrain from blasting dexter_stayne for what he wrote... I mean the point of this board is harm minimisation, ripping into someone for sharing an experience like that isn't going to achieve anything so just think before you reply.
That aside, something I feel very strongly about is people driving while they are peaking. Think about the experience of being out at a club or party and just what you're going through mentally when you're peaking.
Physiologically; think about your visual acuity, depth perception, ability to judge speed, reaction time, hearing, attention span and so on. All of these make for really dangerous driving.
The problem is that, just like alcohol, ecstacy impairs judgement and when you're on it, you figure it's okay, or that you can't be bothered waiting until your pill wears off. I'm sure other drugs have effects that result in even worse driving, but driving while peaking has to be one of the most dangerous things people can do. Please think before you do.
That aside, something I feel very strongly about is people driving while they are peaking. Think about the experience of being out at a club or party and just what you're going through mentally when you're peaking.
Physiologically; think about your visual acuity, depth perception, ability to judge speed, reaction time, hearing, attention span and so on. All of these make for really dangerous driving.
The problem is that, just like alcohol, ecstacy impairs judgement and when you're on it, you figure it's okay, or that you can't be bothered waiting until your pill wears off. I'm sure other drugs have effects that result in even worse driving, but driving while peaking has to be one of the most dangerous things people can do. Please think before you do.
onetwothreefour
Bluelight Crew
Originally posted by dexter_stayne
I was all over the place. i had to use all 3 lanes just to stay on the road. i didnt see turns coming on the road, hallucinated, saw people, ?wire? on the road. At one stage the road turned a sharp right and i didnt see it. I mounted the left hand kerb scraping my wheels and chassis, sending sparks flying from the back of my car.
I was all over the place. i had to use all 3 lanes just to stay on the road. i didnt see turns coming on the road, hallucinated, saw people, ?wire? on the road. At one stage the road turned a sharp right and i didnt see it. I mounted the left hand kerb scraping my wheels and chassis, sending sparks flying from the back of my car.
you're so cool.
Xand hoptis: nah, i disagree. i see your point, but i can't read that -like the above- and pretend to advocate it or not say anything! sure, he was "brave" enough to post it, but i think that makes the comments fair game.
dexter's post details the fact that he did something really fucking stupid, and i'm just (rightfully, imo) criticising it. not that i wrote the most amazing retort or anything
anna!
Bluelight Crew
I wasn't blasting, I was asking. I never understand why people take risks like that when they're fully aware of what they are and what the consequences could be.
my bf usually drives home from raves...he has fallen asleep on the wheel twice, and i just grab the wheel and he wakes up in an instant... once he fell asleep coming down a mountain range. after this i pled him to pull over and let me drive...but he insists that he's ok and makes it home safely. i dunno what to say to get me to drive, even though i'm tired too but i know i'm less likey to fall asleep while driving. ?? 
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