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Suboxone - New Experience - Stimulating!

Morphoid

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I have a big tramadol habit (500-600mg per day, and yes, I am aware of the seizure risk - but in 2 years it's never happened once) and I decided to try Suboxone, a mate gave me a bunch of 2mg/0.5mgs and 8mg/2mgs. The following trip report may be dangerous and you should NEVER try and replicate it. Doses that are ok for some people may prove fatal for others.

The first thing I should point out with buprenorphine is that you should NEVER dose any buprenorphine with being in mild to moderate withdrawal already, otherwise the bupe will instigate precipitated withdrawal. Bupe has a much higher affinity for mu-opioid receptors than any full agonist and will knock you into withdrawal very badly unless you're already there. I'm sure most of you already know this, but I just wanted to be sure.

Ok, so here's my first trip report! :)

14:47
Inserted 2mg/0.5mg Suboxone® tablet under tongue. Taste = Foul! Very bitter. Currently in mild withdrawal, 18 hours since last tramadol dose.

15:38
Inserted 2 x 2mg Suboxone® tablets under tongue in an attempt to titrate dose effectively. Bringing up total dose to 6mg of Buprenorphine and 1.5mg of Naloxone. Tasted absolutely horrid but dissolved relatively quickly - around 5 minutes. Definitely feeling a lot of relief from WDs now so I imagine in another hour I'll be feeling pretty nice :)

16:18
Very mild nausea, noted good mood, can definitely feel opioid effects. Not as pronounced as full agonist but very relieving from WDs all the same. Headache, probably due to the naloxone but tolerable with paracetamol/ibuprofen at the moment.

16:45
Almost 2 hours now after first dosage. Withdrawal symptoms are almost totally absent. Effects do seem to have stabilised now.

17:40
Dosed another 2mg. Total 8mg now. (Big mistake ... this was too much)

20:00
Very very stimulating effects! Opioid effects very pronounced but no nod, feel like I want to go and run 100 miles! Legs very jittery, definitely slightly overdosed here 8mg is too much.

23:00
Effects still as strong as before, very very stimulating! Like no opioid I've ever used before. Took 2 x 7.5mg zopiclone to try and calm things down.

0:00
Feeling more relaxed now, the zopiclone has somewhat countered the stimulant effects and I'm going to lie down and nod now.

Next morning:
Hangover from the bupe (not the zopiclone, take it very regularly with no problems next day), won't be doing it again. Not an enjoyable high for me but great in small doses for keeping wds at bay.

So there it is ... my first trip report on BL. Hope it's worth reading for some one. :)
 
Bupe gives me a soothing body buzz that makes me feel very mellow.

What exactly are "2mg/0.5mg" and "8mg/2mg" pills?
 
Bob Loblaw, I was referring to Suboxone® pills which are a branded name for a compound containing buprenorphine and naloxone at a 4:1 ratio. So when I put 2mg/0.5mg what it means is 2mg bupe and 0.5mg naloxone. The same goes for the 8mg/2mg. 8mg bup & 2mg naloxone as a sublingual compound.

I've added a picture here to show you, I don't know whether or not this is allowed and I'm so messed up on etizolam and tramadol right now I can barely remember what I'm doing, but just to show you, here is an official pic for Suboxone clarifying what I mean.

suboxone.jpg


The naloxone was added SUPPOSEDLY to prevent abuse by IV or snorting, but that's bullshit as I know Captain.Heroin will back me up on.

Actually, Captain, could you answer me a question? Why do you think buprenorphine is so stimulating? It it simply because of unselective binding? Or does in effect levels of noradrenaline?
 
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Suboxone stimulating

Bob Loblaw, I was referring to Suboxone® pills which are a branded name for a compound containing buprenorphine and naloxone at a 4:1 ratio. So when I put 2mg/0.5mg what it means is 2mg bupe and 0.5mg naloxone. The same goes for the 8mg/2mg. 8mg bup & 2mg naloxone as a sublingual compound.

I've added a picture here to show you, I don't know whether or not this is allowed and I'm so messed up on etizolam and tramadol right now I can barely remember what I'm doing, but just to show you, here is an official pic for Suboxone clarifying what I mean.

suboxone.jpg


The naloxone was added SUPPOSEDLY to prevent abuse by IV or snorting, but that's bullshit as I know Captain.Heroin will back me up on.

Actually, Captain, could you answer me a question? Why do you think buprenorphine is so stimulating? It it simply because of unselective binding? Or does in effect levels of noradrenaline?

Hi B/L
I'SWIM tried suboxone for the 1st time last night - it's now 6 a.m. Had plenty of other opiates/opioids before; like the 1st post, titrated over about 5 hours took 6x2mg in total. Totally different buzz, very pleasant apart from the fucking awful itches!!! (Got some fuciden cream and that seems to help). As 1st post, sleep isn't happening. Would be curious to know why - Captain H?

It's been 3 hours of interesting lying down - I read that sub can cause respiratory problems when mixed with other stuff (but are ok taking them on their own), so went in clean. Still, this maybe be a paranoid thought (don't usually get them and don't feel paranoid) but it seemed like I could breathe out and then not breathe in for ages. It sort of felt like that I could easily forget how to breathe!!! It didn't work the same the other way (by holding my breath, because the levels of CO2 forced me to breathe out) Quite a strange feeling!

SWIM has got 3 left and was considering trying them rectally? I know that they can be snorted, and work; and if IV'd they don't work? But what about rectally? UTB is recommended for those with f***ed up veins but the chemical still gets into your bloodstream without entering the stomach, the same as snorting. Can anyone help educate me in these matters?

Finally, it's now 7.10 and I've taken 1.5 x 7.5mg zopiclone; hopefully I'll be able to nod off.

I think that this is my 1st post but have been educating myself via B/L for some time; thank you ladies and gents for all the interesting reading. Stay safe p2s.
 
You all are taking ENTIRELY too much! For someone without much of a tolerance, start at .2-.5mg bupe and work up from there. Any more than 2mg and the good effects start to go away.
 
I have injected buprenorphine for years as it is very cheap here in fl on the street anything more than 12mg iv does nothing and not taking breaks also makes it do nothing
 
1.2mg of buprenorphine is around 30mg of hydrocodone or a little less of oxycodone.

Anything over 4mg does not metabolize and cross the blood brain barrier and turn into norbuprenorphine (the feel good metabolite)

The lower the sub dosage, the MORE relief you should feel. HOWEVER, when Drs put someone on 16mg of buprenorphine, it is to bring them down, not keep them on that dosage. a 16mg dosage of suboxone is an enourmous amount of drugs to put into your system on a daily basis.

If you are able to, i would bring you dosage down to around 4mg or so. 6mg is the upper limits IMO for what does or does not cross the BBB...

if you do a lot of research you will see what i am telling you is correct...

less is more with suboxone (buprenorphine)
 
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