Suboxone Dilemma - MERGED

Sometimes you have to have a crutch to do things. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that! You have gotten some great advice, you have been off dope 5 days, and you've done it with very, very little sub. Hell, I'd say you are on the way to living sober. Again, try not to worry about the wreck. Realistically, if you have not heard something by now, you are probably in the clear. Worrying will not help at all, it will just stress you out at a time when you need additional stress like you need a hole in your head!
 
thanks . its day 6 only took 2 mg sub this morning . hurting mentally .........the depression/anxiety i self medicated is back now kicking my ass.................
Im so full of fear , and feeling so alone .
 
stuckinaloop - I would completely 10000% agree with his post.

Like literally, his/her plan of action is perfect!

You really may get away with hardly any discomfort at all! So use this time on the subs to just chill out man, and mentally enjoy the relief from being out of the shitty dope game. Think ofthings you might wanna do like work out, take walks, watch movies, study lol. All while maintaining on 2mg then to 1mg then lower a day! But try to taper on a WEEKLY basis not daily, just like stuckinaloop said as well!
Stabilizing your dose helps you stabilize your mentality as well.
Then you will continue to lower as weeks go on and you will all of a sudden be offin no time!

If I could repeat my main point- DO NOT RUSH getting off of subs in fear of withdrawal. You will not have a serious hard time getting off at all if you remain at low holding doses with the 30 pillsyou have.
if you feel shitty still and anxious and uncertain how bad you wanna go get dope, take aanother 2mg. Honestly, my first days off dope I take high amount of subs [well a whole pill is alot for me lol I believe in subs intense strength] and i end up taking like 6 mg throughout the day.
I'd rather see you take a little more sub if you feel shitty and real down than anything else detrimental you know. You seem to be wanting to take as least sub as possible, therefore I feel it's ok to tell you to take al ittle more when you feel the need as you don't go nuts with sub or think you need like 3 pills [oy!!]
 
yeah took about 4 mg today . the 2 mg wasnt enough ..............ill see how i feel tomorow on 2 and maybe try not to take more than 3 mg ..............realizing theres no rush . my goal is to be off subs before i go on my trip to france in 2 months
 
Day 7 off heroin , suboxone taper.............

Why am i starting another thread ? Well i feel that reaching 7 days off dope i have gotten over the acute WD phase and now I need to get off subs............
All help is GREATLY appreciated. I want to be opiate free ASAP but dont want to make it too hard to point where I cant stand the PAWS. Im having hard time deciding how to taper.
BAckground info : For about last year or so I have been going back and forth between subs and dope , but last few months turned into more of a dope habit and subs on days i couldnt afford dope. So subs maybe 2-3 days a week and dope rest of the time. I was doing a bundle a day of dope on days i could get up the money..................sniffing.
Anyway so i have enuogh sub , about 25 to taper without having to get more, and i def want to be off it because i am going away out of the country in june for vacation and that is 2 months from now
So here is how i have tapered so far.............
day 1 3 mg (didnt have anymore)
day 2 8 mg
day 3 6 mg
day 4 4 mg
day 5 4 mg
day 6 3 mg
day 7 2 mg

i am thinking of giong down to 1 mg tomorow or seeing how long i can last without dosing..........I just dont want to stop the sub and then 3 days later get sick all over again . I def feel way better than 1st few days i was dopesick bad
 
Getting clean and feeling so lost

Today is my 11th day off dope. I am currently weaning off suboxone because i dont want to be on it long and get hooked on that..........I am down to about 1 mg for last few days but still feeling really down.............I just have so many thing weighing on me and dont know what to do . Any advice is good

1. too much time on my hands. Im taking a few classes but cant seem to find a job to kill time. i go to n.a. and try to go to gym but im alone most of the time..............

2. things in future im scared of .......a graduation for school (assuming i pass classes im in now) , a trip to france............sound like good things but im so scared of them now that im clean

3. my depression always sucks and i used dope to self medicate. now that im clean its back and hurts
 
Well first off it's a good thing that you haven't used in 11 days that's something to be thankful for! Have you tried to meet people at NA yet? There's some chill people there maybe one of them goes to the same gym as you.

If your going to school that's a good start. Try really put your all into that and ace all your classes. Instead of sitting around just pop open one of your text books. It might not be the most entertaining thing in the world but it is a good thing to fill your time with witch is really important in early recovery. You got to start filling your using time with something productive.

The future is a hard one for me to address I've been clean a little over a year now and have been working full time which is nice but i need to get my ass back in school. That trip to France sounds awesome though. It's a great country to visit and there are some amazing things to see and to eat.

The heroin was not helping with your depression it was only hiding it from you. It's always been there but instead of dealing with it you got loaded instead. It's kind of like how ostriches stick their heads in the ground. You should find a therapist that specializes in drug addiction and substance abuse problems. Remember kicking is the easy part the road only gets more narrow and treacherous as time moves on.

Good luck man plenty of people have gotten clean and stayed clean life does get better. Dont expect it to get better over night though. You have to help yourself and be proactive you cant just sit on your ass and hope it does.
 
jake99, way to go ~! 11 days is awesome and the things you are feeling and going through are totally normal. Its all part of the process of withdrawal. PAWS or post accute withdrawal symptoms, can last like for a couple months so be prepared. I believe that people who suffer from depression (me included) have a harder time kicking because of their brain chemestry. Hang in there friend ;)
 
^^^ If you need a higher dose then id say yes. It's better then relapsing on heroin and in anycase many people find that long term sub use helps alot. But if your hurting on the dose your on id say go on a higher dose for now atleast.
 
i just dont know if im going to see the sub Dr. again or wean off with the 17 or so pills i have....................
 
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