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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread v. 19

Good lord, 8mg bupe a day for 8 years!!! That is completely unnecessary. How many grams/kilograms of that beautiful molecule when to waste is beyond my desire to calculate at the moment...

If I were you and had been on such a high dose for so long, I'd prolong my taper drastically and only jump off after a couple weeks at 0.5 or even 0.25mg/day for a couple weeks.

Also, bupe has excellent anti-depressant properties, so if you took a small (<1mg/day) dose, it would disperse the black cloud you have over your head.
 
unnecessary to some but a absolute necessity to others. I'd rather take 8MG/day for 8years than do 1G+ heroin a day for 8years. you dont know how bad someones problem is because you are not in their shoes; I seriously COULD NOT STOP SHOOTING! I was shooting around 2G+/day. and I am the type who would buy in a bundle and not put that down until its all gone; I did NOT know how to have a good time; I did not know how to save anything. all I knew how to do what jam the most possible in a needle and stick it in my arm trying to make it disappear. people would think I am an idiot and say I am wasting it but to me it was far from wasting; I just wanted to get that RUSH I first got the first time I shot years and years ago. I had somewhat of a high tolerance but even tho I would not stop until its gone. I could be nodding but unless I was OUT or OUT OF DRUGS I would not put a the needle down; everyone is different. its a fucking scary thing to think about, damn! over the past 6 months I've been doing great; been sober for 4 months but when I picked up after being off for 2 months I shot through a gram in about 15 minutes; I just could NOT put it down until it was gone; its a sick way my mind works but I cannot put a fucking bag down until its completely fucking gone.

the way I use is scary and it is death waiting for me. I seriously PRAY/HOPE that I do not make the mistake. I do not want to let down my family, my girlfriend, my friends, those who actually care for me, because its obvious, to myself at least, that I do not care for myself. the way I use is knocking on deaths door w/ a damn crowbar, man.

stay on bupe, stay on done', do whatever you have to do, at whatever dose you feel works best, as long as it keeps you AWAY from shooting/using/doing whatever bad thing it is that brought you here today.

I wish you nothing but the best; it's been 14 fucking years from hell and I am still battling to this day but I am confident and been doing my best.

nothing but the best, folks.
 
Hey Boston, haven't seen you around but I hope you are ok?? Since suboxone can be used for detox and or maintainence, I think it's up to each one of us what are goals are. I can't get a day so I need maintainence I'm not getting any younger, seriously, the cravings are awful, if a person needs it one day or 365, it's all about quality of our lives wish in you the best bono
 
Im actually BACK on sub.... day 2 off H. Omg it feels like its been forever! I know from past experience that it gets better with time but I can never make it more than like 3 days!

Really sucks that im labeled a drug seeker because I used to be prescribes benzos for GAD and panic disorder, for 7 years...tested pos for weed and was discharged and lost that Dr. Anyway, clonazepam would REALLY help me not get so worked up and EXPLODE w anxiety and fucking use any chance I get. That and weed...
 
Beginning of last year I had 6 months and boy that felt good, I can't get past the 3rd day either, always cave, I am on day 3 trying, can't sleep it's 4 am. Gotta pay piper, any day away from h is a good one any minute for that, hang in there woamotive, I will try bono
 
Im actually BACK on sub.... day 2 off H. Omg it feels like its been forever! I know from past experience that it gets better with time but I can never make it more than like 3 days!

Really sucks that im labeled a drug seeker because I used to be prescribes benzos for GAD and panic disorder, for 7 years...tested pos for weed and was discharged and lost that Dr. Anyway, clonazepam would REALLY help me not get so worked up and EXPLODE w anxiety and fucking use any chance I get. That and weed...

Wow, my clinic gives no shit about THC (weed/hash/oil), it's already considered medicinal here, but yeah I mean, thats fucking retarded, when they found THC in my pee (and they almost never pee test me, i ts a waste of money they said, i'm always clean except of benzos but that's an exception because it's allowed by my psychiatrist, was on benzos a decade before I put a needle in me, tapering me off benzos at the same time as not giving me enough methadone for practically the whole time I was there, I left after 6 days with a script for 35mg....i mean come on, original dose was 15mg, I was shooting up 32 to 64mg of hydromorphone a day...

Anyway, it's a really bad clinic if it even cares about weed. Those like me who toke socially once or twice a month get THC detected like a pothead just the same, i'm not sure the results the docs/nurses get even show blood plasma quantity ratios or such.
 
I find it sad that we are labeled as drug seekers but get it, also. When one is truly working on them self, you know what works, and doesn't so if you need dose of something, it should be available, I am talking about for the 100% right reason you need it. When one is trying to grab hold of control in ther life always seems like there is someone else hovering over. I think some of these docs and clinics have God complexes that are huge!! Hang in there Bono
 
I new on here. I've been on subs for 6 years now. My doctor actually thinks subs can work as an anti-depressant of sorts. I believe its used that way in Finland. My doc actually upped my dose to 4 mg daily after being at 2 for 5 years. It works for me, my mood is stable, and no danger of relapse.

I think some people have more of a psychological addict to opiates than a physical. That's an even more severe and dangerous addiction pattern. I'm that way I believe. I once kicked methadone cold turkey, and I was in worse shape after a month than I was after 2 weeks.

So, what's the rational for quitting subs? What's wrong with being on them for life? I know it can decrease ambition and sex drive, but that's an ok trade off for not relapsing.

Thoughts?
 
Welcome Chastik I think you post was spot on. My life is 100%better on suboxone I just reinducted so I am waiting patiently for it to take away cravings, I have been on drugs since I was 17 so if I need this rest of my life so be it. When I wanted to use nothing gonna stop me so yes this trade off of not relapsing is for my benefit. Mentally I feel better about myself, I think I am coming to terms with accepting who I am and what I need to do, wow, I really just said that. Bono
 
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Yes yes, subs are wonderful for depression! I'm prescribed 4 mg a day, but I only take 2 mg once a day and I have a stockpile of 2 mg tabs for when I begin the taper. Apparently my insurance will only covers 6 months of maintenance. But my mood is improved at 2 mg, where as anything higher didn't do anything for my mood. I'm grateful this go round too, I've been on sub maintenance 2 different times previously and 1 round with the old methadone but this time I am actually trying to not take opiates while on maintenance. Also I just landed a full time job yesterday too! Fuck yeah, also best of luck to all you fellow Blue lighters :D
 
And yeah, I agree if suboxone works and keeps you being a decent human, then I don't see a reason why you'd discontinue it. I would love to keep on it, but lame ass insurance apparently thinks 6 months is long enough to undo 8 years of opiate abuse :/
 
Congrats Opie on the new job! Never ceases to amaze me how our lives improve on subs until I read posts like yours! Wow that is sad about your insurance though, that seems just wrong to me, are you just starting and have 6 months to go? Today I have 5 days this is that most I've had since my relapse, I feel ok thanks to subs, it's a tough road, life is hard, my car needs a lot of work, my daughter in hospital, my 90 year old mom is failing, yet I have 5 days thanks to this wonderful medicine, my opinion! Bono
 
Happy New Year fellow suboxone bluelighters! Hope all is good today is day 6 the insomnia is awful, like waking up every hour, it's tough to tell whether it is from suboxone or withdrawl but I am being productive cause I finished a Steelers blanket for my son's friend, bono
 
Can't believe I can say I actually hit day 7 off drugs, been a very long time for me. Wow had a serious drug dream though, I went into a facility where I used to work, emptied a stock of perc 10s, I still keep looking around my room to make sure that this really didn't happen wow rem sleep omg! Bono
 
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I wish this thread would come back to life, I know I sound like a broken stuck record but, today is day 8 off drugs, h and oxys, wow it isn't much but it is alot to and for me , I am on subs which I am not sure if causes insomnia, or withdrawl itself causes insomnia , but last nite was one of those nights where I constantly was drenched in sweats waking up every hour but it still feels better than a week ago, my son's gave my this huge bottle of lotion so showering a few times a day has never felt cleaner than now, I definitely have an addictive personality cause I act it out every form of anything, ie showers too bono
 
Hey Bono, I have dreams just like you described. Ha recently I was searching for oxy in my dream but when I'd find it, it turned into a skittle, weird shit. Anyway, I'm sorry to hear about your mother and child, no one should have to deal with that, especially this time of year. Hang in there and awesome job on day 8!!! That's fucking incredible, insomnia sucks but you should acclimate to suboxone here soon and that will end. I'm on suboxone for a few more months, I'm at month 4 and at 2 mg daily. How much suboxone are you at? Also what are you coming off of? That may explain the insomnia and sweats, but please stay strong and keep on the suboxone! You're definitely on the right god damn track!
 
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