Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

[laCster]

i am one of the people that LOVE buprenorphine for some reason. i was snorting bupre for 6months, then switched to IV bupre for 4-5months(until i unwillingly came off on august 2nd) and absolutely loved injecting buprenorphine. some people dont see the point because it doesnt bring that much of a rush, but to me it feels good. buprenorphine is a very strong opiate, it is no surprise why you or I like it so much.. also, being all strung out on buprenorphine is much more manageable than having a heroin addiction, so that adds a special flavor to the mix. i have my suboxone Dr appointment tomorrow and i CANNOT wait to get back on buprenorphine (i have been off it for about 25 days now), and i know that i will get fuckkkked up tomorrow. i might be using it for the wrong reasons, but using suboxone is much safer than injecting dope and possibly overdosing. plus, when i made micron filtered solutions of buprenorphine, the injections would feel stronger and more like heroin for some reason; another person on this website agrees with me aswell.

i want to run to the pharmacy and pick up a big batch of needles tomorrow, but i know i have to hold off. i will probably switch to using plugging suboxone and using it sublingually. i CRAVE suboxone now that i am off of it, sure i would go for some heroin or hydromorphone instead of the bupre, but i will be a happy camper with just buprenorphine. especially when i take 1-2mgs a day, i get an amazing antidepressant effect and also that lovely opiated feeling. i dont know if i will be on suboxone for the rest of my life, but i can definitely see myself doing so.

 

[kayKMS3]

Does anyone know how to close a film package after opening? Like....how do you open it and then make it look like it's never been opened? I know there are people doing this. Some friends have been ripped off by people removing the strip and then selling it. How are they doing it?!

 

[BlueHues]

They're probably just using a razor blade and making a small cut where nobody would look, but burning people on Suboxone is low....

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Does anyone know how to close a film package after opening? Like....how do you open it and then make it look like it's never been opened? I know there are people doing this. Some friends have been ripped off by people removing the strip and then selling it. How are they doing it?!

Who knows. There are tons of ways people rip each other off. That's why you need to be careful.

 

[laCster]

so today u shot up some buprenorphine. today was my second day on it after 40 days of no opiates. i definitely felt a rush, it was weird because i wasnt expecting it at all. it was not the most intense rush, but it was definitely still there. i bet i experienced a rush because my opiate tolerance is low

 

[HRproof]

so today u shot up some buprenorphine. today was my second day on it after 40 days of no opiates. i definitely felt a rush, it was weird because i wasnt expecting it at all. it was not the most intense rush, but it was definitely still there. i bet i experienced a rush because my opiate tolerance is low

Did you ever read the complications thread? I don't see why anyone would risk shooting subs. Even using a micron filter might not prevent abscess or other health issues correct? I figure if people get complications from injections administered by professionals, reagrdless of what you do you could certainly get them at home.

pros of I.V sub: occaisonal mini-rush if you have no tolerance

cons of I.V sub: too many to list..

Just take the sublingually... the strips dissolve way more efficiently than the pills and are 10x easier to split into small doses, as small as you want.

If you really feel the need to snort something.. just waterline them.

waterline not the same. Snorting a little sub at times was helping with cravings, irritability. I have bad anxiety, cant get benzo script and having trouble getting a non-benzo anxiety script. So, being able to take a little sub through the nose was helpful in several ways.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Did you ever read the complications thread? I don't see why anyone would risk shooting subs. Even using a micron filter might not prevent abscess or other health issues correct? I figure if people get complications from injections administered by professionals, reagrdless of what you do you could certainly get them at home.

pros of I.V sub: occaisonal mini-rush if you have no tolerance

cons of I.V sub: too many to list..



waterline not the same. Snorting a little sub at times was helping with cravings, irritability. I have bad anxiety, cant get benzo script and having trouble getting a non-benzo anxiety script. So, being able to take a little sub through the nose was helpful in several ways.

How is waterlining not the same thing? It's just squirting a liquid up your nose instead of snorting powder.. it's actually more efficient.

 

[Zerrr]

How is waterlining not the same thing? It's just squirting a liquid up your nose instead of snorting powder.. it's actually more efficient.

I believe he gets some type of psychological kick from it but hey whadda I know..or likes the taste, burn, process etc

 

[BlueHues]

I can honestly say, I don't like snorting drugs at all anymore! I haven't snorted H in a long time, so maybe I would like to have that taste again, and a small bump of meth wasn't bad because it's little lines that burn like hell but absorb and are gone quick like H so neither of those clog your nose......

but I can't stand doing lines of cocaine...it clogs the shit out of your nose and I hate the numbness, I don't see why anyone thinks that's part of the "fun" of coke!...It's like getting novocaine at the dentist...and pills are the absolute worst, and anything sweet, chalky and nasty is just horrible. Suboxone is right there!

How effective is plugging Suboxone? I might try that if I run low...Is the BA a lot better than SL?

 

[Zerrr]

I can honestly say, I don't like snorting drugs at all anymore! I haven't snorted H in a long time, so maybe I would like to have that taste again, and a small bump of meth wasn't bad because it's little lines that burn like hell but absorb and are gone quick like H so neither of those clog your nose......

but I can't stand doing lines of cocaine...it clogs the shit out of your nose and I hate the numbness, I don't see why anyone thinks that's part of the "fun" of coke!...It's like getting novocaine at the dentist...and pills are the absolute worst, and anything sweet, chalky and nasty is just horrible. Suboxone is right there!

How effective is plugging Suboxone? I might try that if I run low...Is the BA a lot better than SL?

They have a mini subutex that is quite pleasant to snort actually. It somewhat reminds me of the old oc80's..not chalky at all.

I read that plugging is more efficient than sublingual and about as effective as snorting. I can't speak from experience though, outside of a bag of dope (one time) my asshole is virgin, and I plan to keep it that way.

take care BlueHues, you've been posting some quality stuff recently. You trying to get a MOD job?

 

[BlueHues]

^Ha, yeah I can't keep my mouth shut! but Thanks man, I make some good posts, piss a lot of people off too though! No, I'm not nice enough to be a mod!

Yeah I don't know if Sub is chalky to snort, I never tried! It looks chalky though!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

No, I'm not nice enough to be a mod!

He means not cool enough.

 

[RodRamsey]

I tried the water lining, dissolve in 120proof vodka method, plugs, everything you can do with a film except shooting. I just hate needles simple as that. None of the diff ROA's of films worked for me at all. They were such a disapointment it made quitting 10x easier. For someone who just getting started on subs or not ready to quit, being forced on the films could be a disaster. They should only use films for tapering purposes. The tablets worked better sublingal for me than the films. I used to just put a film in my nose and it kind of worked but not even half the strength of tablets.

 

[laCster]

Did you ever read the complications thread? I don't see why anyone would risk shooting subs. Even using a micron filter might not prevent abscess or other health issues correct? I figure if people get complications from injections administered by professionals, reagrdless of what you do you could certainly get them at home.

pros of I.V sub: occaisonal mini-rush if you have no tolerance

cons of I.V sub: too many to list..



waterline not the same. Snorting a little sub at times was helping with cravings, irritability. I have bad anxiety, cant get benzo script and having trouble getting a non-benzo anxiety script. So, being able to take a little sub through the nose was helpful in several ways.

hah, you're telling me.... i threw away all my needles, it was fun fr a little bit, but the "high" quickly went away so i am going to be plugging and waterlinning suboxone from now on

 

[BlueHues]

^^It's the same exact drug in the same exact quantity made by the same exact company. Do you really believe that the strips contain less buprenorphine? Because they don't...I'm just curious as to what you think the difference is...

they dissolve much quicker than the pills, this could be a problem I guess, but there's no way that they're "weaker",,,In fact, they have a much higher concentration of buprenorphine by weight than the pills do.

 

[RodRamsey]

Ya sure lol the pharma companies are always honest about everything. There's thousands of people all over the world, on many different sites all saying the same. Films are garbage and don't equal half the strength of a tablet. I was on subs for many years, thru my experience 1 8mg film equals about 3mg tablet form. I wanted the films to work in the worst way but they just suck. There really is no question about it for me. The film was developed to help long term patients taper and they work great for that. For someone who really needs sub treatment, I feel real sorry for them if a dr pushes films at them. My dumbass doctor tried telling me they discontinued the tablets because children were eating them and would die. Meanwhile they came out with sub generic tabs and still have the old oranges. The film costs 3 times as much to manufacture also due to limited sources of film companies and the packaging alone costs more since each dose has to be individually packaged.

 

[missmeyet?]

I really don't care if anyone gets offended that was my opinion on the sitution like it or love it. You can handle yours anyway you like. All the best to you and your baby. In my situation no girl would be a candidate for a baby if using anything. Thats never going to change and I am very informed and experienced with everything. If you want to do drugs with baby on board then keep it movin, no sweat off my back.

Really? You are informed and experienced with everything? You are very educated and experienced about the medical aspects of pregnancy and maintanence and opiate/opioids while pregnant? I don't think so.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Okay, methadone has screwed my endocrine system, I gotta take shots of testosterone and take oral prednisolone. I guessed something was wrong a couple months ago when at my ultimate dosage for me (60mg), I started to get really fat, irritable, lazy and lame. So over the months I dropped to 41mg where I am now in a tolerable withdrawal state and my doctors will switch me to suboxone after me taking nothing the day before showing myself to the hospital (where the clinic is) in little more than a week, on 9/11, lets hope my continuous willing to live isn't aborted by congress (clap clap obama, nice damage control for all the shit proving you're a criminal of the highest order now..but I digress.. , at 8am in the morning so they can monitor me and then when they find im sick enough give me 4mg of bupe. I gotta come back the next day to tell em how i'm feeling and for dosage adjustments.

Now, i'm an ex pain patient who was ignored by the medical establishment (free healthcare don't mean shit when you are young....doctors then decide you cannot have pain issues...) and I also got enjoy the opiates as I got them on the black market (never saw heroin in my life, i live in a pretty small city, the last metro area of canada, no heroin here) but shooting up dilaudid was enjoyable. But I managed to find nodding on methadone when boosting it with hydroxyzine, benzos, etaqualone and tagamet (not all at once, except the hydroxyzine being always present yes, anyway, I was a long time benzo patient before I even touched anything stronger than codeine pills for minor injuries). Yes, believe it or not I am able to obtain pleasurable nods from methadone, I don't do it all the time but I like how I have no repercussions of over-using my methadone now that I have 6 privileges a week and blah blah....will bupe really never give me anything resembling a high and pain removal?

Cos if it doesn't, fuck my goddamn pituitary gland for being unable to endure the methadone...it's not like I was taking massive doses....sure I'm gonna do the switch for my own health (damn I feel awesome since I give myself a weekly testo shot along with the prednisolone pills, I feel rejuvenated by several years (i'm in my early thirties but I felt like if I was 70 at my worst before the blood tests confirmed shit was fucked up).

So, bupe for pain relief ? I know it comes as temgesic .2mg pills and BuTrans patches....how is it ? I don't feel like taking the tmj and nerve damage my jaw has taken and made me suffer for a decade almost before I decided to shoot dilaudid into me. And I'm not expected to have fun at all with it eh ?

Feeling so much better by countering the methadone's bad effects like I am with the extra meds could seem viable, but now it's too late, I yelled and screamed at the docs enough to switch me to something that doesn't kill my brain glands....too late to go back now.

edit : Also, I'm aware that the pills i'm going to be given...a big 6 a week...just like my methadone privileges..no change...canadia is so bizarre to you guys i know, we dont have such a thing as sub doctors, suboxone appeared 2 years ago max here...anyway the pills I will get are told to be used sublingually or they dont work at all. So those are impossible to snort or use in any other way ? Or is there just one suboxone pill that is supposed to be used sublingually but works in other ways ? There is no film here either but that's not a big loss afaik.

 

[Minnie2013]

I'm very new here, but from one mother to another mother (1) you did the right thing (2) I applaud you for telling your story because this is the ONLY way we can learn more since there are no studies and (3) I am disgusted that you had to endure such judgment after showing such bravery. I had not seen any of this kind of judgment anywhere on this board.
I'm so new here but felt very confident how safe it was.

 

[Minnie2013]

Really? You are informed and experienced with everything? You are very educated and experienced about the medical aspects of pregnancy and maintanence and opiate/opioids while pregnant? I don't think so.

Rod-you are misinformed. Going cold turkey is very dangerous for a pregnant mother and life-threatening for the baby. That is why pregnant women get moved to the top of the line as far as methadone maintenance.

Not seeing a doctor to be medically monitored and maintained properly is what is unhealthy. Many pregnant women who are being medically monitored need more opiates while pregnant to prevent withdrawal symptoms.

"Compromising the child's safety"--as you say it, would be doing exactly what you said in your other post-going cold turkey. You need to know this since you are posting as-if this is something that you would tell people to do. What you are saying is not only completely incorrect, it is dangerous.

How dare you insinuate that I'm a bad parent because I continued taking my meds while pregnant?? I love my babies and do everything for them, always putting their needs before my own. It's easy for anyone to think, "Of course I'd stop taking anything if I were carrying a child." and what did I do the minute I found out I was pregnant-- called my sub doctor to ask how to taper quickly. He advised me to instead stay on as the risk of stress from w/d is worse on the mom & baby than the minimal effects from the meds. I did my research, thoroughly, and decided to continue.

I'm sure you'll counter by saying how the doctor is trying to take my money, but whatever. Your statement was ignorant on so many levels. You must assume everyone on subs is a hair away from using hard drugs again or something. This is the type of thinking that perpetuates the stigma attached to subs. Ugh.

Finding a girl while partying to get sober with & then have a baby sounds like a MUCH more responsible plan. Good luck with that.

Sorry, I'm such a dork- my last message was in response to this