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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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You know I have read so many people mentioning PAWS from stopping the subs will stay with people forever and there is absolutely no way out. Hope that is not true. Some have even allegedly taken their own life because of the depression coming off subs. I fear these claims I really do, what kind of a life would it be living in PAWS? terrible.
I have heard this rumor of "lifetime paws" and really honestly believe it to be false. About me, I have been addicted to opiates/opiods for 20 years, the last 18 months being on suboxone . My doc titrated me up to 16 mg and that held me quit well.I am now down to 1 mg every other day and this will be my final week. I am feeling strong and resolved to become a straight person.Y]Thanks to suboxone I finally have my life back.As to the rumor about lifetime paws.My theory about that is that those people have done one thing-remove illicit drugs from their lives.They haven't made any lifestyle changes along with the abstainance.For me that has never worked. I have kicked many times only to get my health and finances repaired and then I would be off on another run. This time have done some work on myself,the hardest part was to accept addiction as a disease. In reality for me that is what my addiction had became. I have done some work on myself c b t ,mindfulness,and getting a sponsor to help guide me working the steps of N A .All of this and finally becoming honest with myself. My idea about those of us that have became addicted,get straight and become miseraqble with being clean are subconsciously sabotaging our recovery.
 
I think it's related to your opiate tolerance when you switch to subs....and the amount that you take everyday. If you have a 30mg a day hydrocodone habit and then switch to 16mgs a day of suboxone you're much more likely to experience strange side effects than if you have a 2000mg a day heroin habit. I've been in groups with people who had minor pill addictions who were put on Suboxone maintenance and were actually getting higher from the bupe than they were from the pills! I was there for heroin and I was getting scripted 16mg a day too, but I knew that it was stupid to ever take that much so I just took 4mg or less everyday and saved the rest.

It is an unusual opiate, but at a low dose it has very few noticeable side-effects. Maybe get a slight glow when you take it everyday, but only if you're not moving around doing shit. I really only notice it when it starts to wear off, and that seems to be most of the "high" for me, getting a little sick everyday and then getting a little well!
 
Ya 16mg of sub is stronger than heroin. I wish I had your doctor lol. Soo much confusion about subs finding a good doctor is the hardest part. I got soo fed up with the bs I stop taking it all together. Tapering was weird, somedays I feel the bup othets I feel like crap. Now entering no bup at all and just maintain on weed and benzo. Maybe some benydryl at night for sleep. So far not as bad as heroin wds but its still early.
 
I read some information here and someone suggested there can be the option of going the short acting opiate route to taper off that your last piece of subs. Can this be doable? .. They asked rather then go down to 0 from 1mg and not feeling too great, isn't it possible they can just make a switch to a shorter acting opiate from 1mg? in my case 0.65mg of subs to a SAO.
 
It takes a months worth of meds to really taper the right way. I did it in about three week taper. Down to. 5 a few days then off you go. Taking benzos help with sleep, usually the biggest issue. I sneazing alot and yarning but thats about it. Smoke some doobie if really not feeling good. Once you make first 5-7 days your usually feeling better. Everyone has diff system and methods. Have to listen toyour body and stay hydrated. Its the worst doing this in heatwave summer hell.
 
I feel absoluetly on top of the world since switching to bupe to taper off AH7921 a couple of weeks ago. This is gonna make it hard to stop taking the stuff. I dread to think whether or not my mood is gonna be plunged into a black hole of depression once i come off it, it's gonna be so hard not jto just click "RE-ORDER" once the taper is done. Thats if that happens.

I think it'd be much worse rattling mid winter. Summer is the best opportunity IMO.
 
Depends if you like the cold or hot. I pedal bike thru withdrawls so 100 degrees not happening. The best part about stopping subs is being able to take a normal dump. No more bricks loool!!!! It just takes a week and you start feeling better but sweating it out of your system the best way. Just dont over heat. This weather terrible in nyc, like a huge oven. If it was 50-60 degrees I would pedal right thru this withdrawl no problem but now I in slow motion. I take soo much crap to fall asleep I wake up feeling like I on H. Hopefully that also improves with time.
 
Depends if you like the cold or hot. I pedal bike thru withdrawls so 100 degrees not happening. The best part about stopping subs is being able to take a normal dump. No more bricks loool!!!! It just takes a week and you start feeling better but sweating it out of your system the best way. Just dont over heat. This weather terrible in nyc, like a huge oven. If it was 50-60 degrees I would pedal right thru this withdrawl no problem but now I in slow motion. I take soo much crap to fall asleep I wake up feeling like I on H. Hopefully that also improves with time.

Ugh yeah I'm in NY too. Hot as balls. Humid too.
 
I've stopped iving my tex, and snort about 2-3 mg a day. I'm thinking about getting 30 more pills and tapering with those then be done with subs... I'm hot all the time and almost died the other week because of an impacted bowel. It's already been like six months and don't want to have a hard paws when I jump. Use kratom for wds then be done with them.
 
Methadone is your path back to opiate use. That shiz is nasty. Take the sub films and taper with them over a month. Snorting tabs have way worse wds than the weak ass film strips. You'll be soo fed up with the films quitting will be easy. Those meth clinics sceve me out the door.
 
I prefer the Winter or Autumn actually. Going through withdrawals in the Summer makes you feel even more isolated, well it does to me, because you want to be out there in the Sunshine like everybody else, but you can't as you feel down right shit..At least in the winter not everybody is out and about and least you can stay home and exercise indoors.
 
hot garbage

It takes a months worth of meds to really taper the right way. I did it in about three week taper. Down to. 5 a few days then off you go. Taking benzos help with sleep, usually the biggest issue. I sneazing alot and yarning but thats about it. Smoke some doobie if really not feeling good. Once you make first 5-7 days your usually feeling better. Everyone has diff system and methods. Have to listen toyour body and stay hydrated. Its the worst doing this in heatwave summer hell.

ya for real I stopped suboxone 11 days ago(on it 4years- put on 32mg and was high from the sub for about 2-3weeks then used to it.first time I filled it the pharmacist thought it was too high of a dose and called doctor to make sure) the day before a heatwave rolled in that was between 90 to 100f for the week and because of the withdrawals I just sat in an upstairs room trying to play video games and smoke a bunch of weed to tuff it out. The room was like 10 degrees hotter than outside so I was just roasting but the anxiety and the chills(which is the worst part- its 100 degrees but feel cold/sweating along with the goosebumps) made it also a bit more bearable because whenever I withdraw 80degrees feel like 60.


I felt so grimey from the heat that I tried for the first time this face wash with salicylic acid before sleep that caused an allergic reaction. I woke up the next morning with my face and body feeling on fire, alot pimples which is rare, and these giant hives that would appear everywhere on my body and face. This is still going on now even after 6-7 days but finally started to become less frequent yesterday. They would appear and grow to size of a baseball on some then stay for a few hrs, recede, repeat in a new spot. Even antihistamines the whole time did nothing to help.



The peak of withdrawals were on the 3-4 day(when I used the face wash) but felt like it stayed like that until the 6-7 then gradually got better and felt 80% complete on 9-10 day. The allergic reaction and the heat made it feel like the withdrawal doubled the morning I woke up and its the only thing bothering me now. The face wash also did something to my skin where it became super oily which I kept trying to wash my face every few hours when it would feel grimey which prob made it worse.

My level of sleep has not improved yet, it is the same as when I stopped, only an 1-3 hrs at a time max. A night or 2 I would crash for 3-6 hrs after staying up for a day or 2. Mild muscle aches. I remember the first 4-5 days I had to poop literally 4-5 times a day, this was coming from not being able to poop sometimes for 3-4 days lol. I only noticed after I stopped that the suboxone had changed my whole mood and behavior the whole time I was on it. I got done doing a whole bunch of shit I put off over the time I was suboxone, now I feel satisfaction getting stuff done before it felt like a chore.

If anyone is coming off of this or any other opioid, make sure you actually want to stop and are not just lying to yourself, push through it and remember that you will feel normal like a long time ago, something that we forget feels like in this terrible addiction. I had tried multiple times to stop before and would always get high around the peak thinking I could use a little heroin to help the withdrawals which is fucking stupid. Also you have the anxiety and mental want for your drug of choice which is half of the withdrawal if not 75 percent. When you are ready to get off you will not have any thoughts about wanting to go and get any shit or use just a little sub during withdrawals and when you do get that flash in your head, you end up saying fuck that.
 
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HAHA sorry I got kinda pissed when that SHydro fella said I was spreading misinfo. I'm sure methadone WDs are far worse than bupe WDs, considering m'done WDs are often said to blow heroin WDs outta' the water. Just hearing about that scares me shitless!
 
HAHA sorry I got kinda pissed when that SHydro fella said I was spreading misinfo. I'm sure methadone WDs are far worse than bupe WDs, considering m'done WDs are often said to blow heroin WDs outta' the water. Just hearing about that scares me shitless!

It wasn't THAT bad of a reaction, but the damper on my sex life was awful.
 
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