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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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Since youve been taking such small doses of suboxone it should not block the ffects of the OC at all. I take 0.5 mg doses of suboxone every day up to 3 times and I can take a full agonist anytime and feel 100% of the effects. Its just that after you take the oxy, jsut to be safe, I would wait until the next day to dose suboxone again.
 
cool, thanks for the quick reply. that's pretty much what i was wondering... whether or not i'll have to wait again to take sub to avoid pwd if i do the oxy now
 
I was just telling you to wait til the next day to dose suboxone again to be safe....i honestly think you probably could dose it anytime without having to worry, because you probably still have suboxone left on your brains receptors. Like I said, I take suboxone every day, and when I do oxy or heroin every once in a while to get high, I can dose my suboxone again anytime I want because I never had the suboxone taken off my receptors....they were always there, its just that I was on such a low dose that there were plenty of other receptors open to be binded by a full agonist.

but, once again, I think its better to be safe and just wait a while to take more suboxone. Lots of people respond differently to different drugs/situations.
 
ha, see that's the answer i wanted someone to post!

lol, no i know what you're saying, and the only reason i'm even really hesitant about it is bc i've only been back on a couple of days at such small amounts that i'm not quite sure how my receptors are going to react to what- like am i still addicted to the oxy from the last couple of weeks and since i've only done like 1.5-2mg total since thursday then there may not be enough bupe there to make a difference, i.e. i do oxy now and doing bupe later would essentially be the same thing as if i'd done that a couple days ago and BAM precipitated wd? ha, i don't know...
 
yea its kinda hard to predict what will happen in these types of situations unless you personally have been through this exact scenario many many times, and know how your body/mind responds inside and out.......and even then, our bodies can suprise us. So thats why I always say its better to be safe than sorry. In fact im the one who coined that term;)
 
hey james, i am still at 4mg.

doc thinks im at 8mg, but i wanna get down to 2mg sooner or later.
 
SkagKush said:
hey james, i am still at 4mg.

doc thinks im at 8mg, but i wanna get down to 2mg sooner or later.
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Good for you......allthough from my experience, your still at a dose thats too high to truly experience the full-agonist qualities of low dose suboxone. But your getting close!
 
ya this i am aware of, but i am always nervous of not being "held" and getting sick, so i am doing a sort of slow taper, ill be dropping down to 2mg once im fully comfy on 4.
 
I think its fine that you choose to do a slow taper and respect that, im just confused about one thing. How come you are "scared" of "not being held" by the smaller dose even though you can very easily just take the rest of your dose as soon as you start to feel a little bad?

I dont understand it. im not trying to force you to take smaller doses or anything, its just I feel like im missing something here because I dont see the risk on taking a smaller dose if you can simply take more if you dont feel well.
 
yeah, skag, i've never really gotten up to the higher doses where you were, but when i mess w/ suboxone, i always just take as small an amount as i need to keep me feeling okay, usually around .5-1mg. on the day i make the switch over from full agonists, it might take 1.5, but i always start low and if i still feel out of sorts, i can always add more.

i guess my point is, i see what james is saying, and don't understand why you couldn't just go to 2 and then up it to 4 if it's not holding you or whatever. again, there's absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, but i don't see what the negative consequences would be the other way except maybe feeling slight restlessness or something while u wait for the other 2 to kick in
 
shanefrommaine said:
Do you guys that do <1.0mg, are you breaking up the N2 (2mg) Suboxone? Or are you making really tiny pieces from an N8 (8mg) Suboxone?
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I take an 8mg pill, and crush it up into powder, then i divide the powder into equal piles. If I make 8 equal piles, that means each pile is 1 mg. If I make 16 piles, that means each pile is 0.5mg's. And that is what I do....16 piles....0.5mg doses. Its pretty hard to dose incorrectly using this method.....as long as you can see clearly, and can count to 16, you are good to go.
 
i split the n8 in half, then spilt one of those halves, using a razor. then i am only dealing w/ 2mg pieces at a time, and it's easier to get a feel for how much you're doing. for example, u could split that 2 mgs into 4 equal piles and know that each one is approximately .5mg. some people do that w/ the whole pill (i.e. 16 little piles), but i don't see the need to break off more than 2mg at a time for a few days. other people make a solution mixing a certain amount of water or whatever w/ a certain mg of sub, so you would know how much was contained in each mL drop, etc.
 
k i understand how to split pills up... just didn't know if you were using the 2s or the 8s. cuz its pretty ridiculous to me to make 16 even piles from an 8 mg pill
 
stray cat said:
i split the n8 in half, then spilt one of those halves, using a razor. then i am only dealing w/ 2mg pieces at a time, and it's easier to get a feel for how much you're doing. for example, u could split that 2 mgs into 4 equal piles and know that each one is approximately .5mg. some people do that w/ the whole pill (i.e. 16 little piles), but i don't see the need to break off more than 2mg at a time for a few days. other people make a solution mixing a certain amount of water or whatever w/ a certain mg of sub, so you would know how much was contained in each drop
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your right, I actually only do it with half a pill or a quarter, its just that its easier to explain it while tlaking about a whole pill. some people arent good at math and when you start explaining to them that you take a quartre of this and you get that, and then you take that and divide it into this, you can make this much, etc.....I have had to explain this method of measuring doses ALOT and I have had the most success with people understanding it when i simply describe it using a whole pill.

...but yes, long story short....i take a quarter (or soemtimes a half) of a pill and crush it and then divide accordingly.
 
i get what you guys are saying, i am also starting a new job, and i am just not in a real rush..... had not thought about using a razor to split em up, good idea......
 
shanefrommaine said:
k i understand how to split pills up... just didn't know if you were using the 2s or the 8s. cuz its pretty ridiculous to me to make 16 even piles from an 8 mg pill
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that's why i was saying to split the pill first. i agree that it's hard to put 16 little piles somewhere for a couple weeks w/out accidentally blowing the powder off, or dropping the cd case or whatever you're keeping it on. if you really understand splitting pills, why would it be any harder to take my example one step further and split a quarter into 2 eighths? crush one of those, and you're only dealing with 2 little piles or whatever
 
SkagKush said:
i get what you guys are saying, i am also starting a new job, and i am just not in a real rush..... had not thought about using a razor to split em up, good idea......
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ha....i still dont get it....your not in a rush to feel euphoria?.....i think we vary greatly in how much we enjoy pleasurable experiences. im not being mean its just actually funny to me that you have self control over yourself, and lower your doses so slowly, even though you know that you could just go right down to a tiny dose and feel euphoria......its funny because I do not have that kind of self control. I would drop down to 0.5 mg's in a split second. But i respect the fact you can control yourself so well, i just dont understand why you WANT to control yourself.
 
hahahaha, ya well i had planned on following the sub program properly, but i wanted to start stockpiling pills. so i then cut down to 4mg. 2mg is in sites tho.

i only wanna dose once a day, so if i were to dose 2mg and it wasnt enough and i had to dose again, i would feel like i threw off my game plan. just a personal thing.
 
also i would like to try snorting my bupe, but i have read that effects are not as long this way, would i have to dose more than once a day?
 
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