Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

[yoboy]

well I fucked up taking those Percs

30 hours after taking the 8mg bupe and 60mg oxycodone felt more like 20-30mg

GOD DAMNIT

stupid fiend move on my part

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

for phenazepam just use google..

 

[qwe]

^hey you gotta edit that out. just saying, the bluelight user agreement. the mods will infract you if you don't edit it fast enough

well I fucked up taking those Percs

30 hours after taking the 8mg bupe and 60mg oxycodone felt more like 20-30mg

GOD DAMNIT

stupid fiend move on my part

hey i'm quittin subs and when i was still tapering i made the same fiend move, but with a 80 dollar pack of fentanyl (plus i had terrible chasing dragon technique, shoulda had an experienced user to get high with). OOPS! then i wasted some opana! OOPS! you are not alone my friend you do gotta wait quite a while sometimes, though there are ways to get your metabolism up of course, which helps a lot

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^hey you gotta edit that out. just saying, the bluelight user agreement. the mods will infract you if you don't edit it fast enough
hey i'm quittin subs and when i was still tapering i made the same fiend move, but with a 80 dollar pack of fentanyl. OOPS! then i wasted some opana! OOPS! you are not alone my friend you do gotta wait quite a while sometimes, though there are ways to get your metabolism up of course, which helps a lot

no im allowed to say search google.. ill get rid of what to search for but ive been doing it for a year and no mod has ever said a thing to me.. the only thing we CANT do is tell them a site that sells it.. but we can tell them to use google and maybe give pointers on what to search for.
i wont get infracted.. dont worry

your a Mod.. you should know these things.

 

[destiny_days]

You can lose weight on Buprenphine/Suboxone/Subutex/Buprenex.

I managed to lose weight on Sub...You just have to Excercise and eat right.. I don't think Sub interfers with anything in terms of wanting to Lose Weight. Sub certainly doesnt make me want to eat anymore then if i wasnt taking sub.

Can u rotate between Tramadol & Dihydrocodeine to get off sub?

thanks.

 

[yoboy]

hey i'm quittin subs and when i was still tapering i made the same fiend move, but with a 80 dollar pack of fentanyl (plus i had terrible chasing dragon technique, shoulda had an experienced user to get high with). OOPS! then i wasted some opana! OOPS! you are not alone my friend you do gotta wait quite a while sometimes, though there are ways to get your metabolism up of course, which helps a lot

yeah I hate that feeling of waste. We should have known better. I asked the question "Should I wait" but I bet I would have justified taking them tonight even if the answer was an unanimous 'DONT DO IT, JUST WAIT'

I can say that the bupe did it's job very well. It kept me from getting high.

 

[qwe]

i just cant wait until 1 or 2 years, when my endorphins are ready for infrequent fun again

till then, it's pot & pychs

 

[jazzyhope]

I am once again out of suboxone and cant get any more for a week. I ran out 4 days ago so I feel pretty rough today. I have some 7.5 hydros, benzos, and that's about it. I dont wanna take them but I need something for the w/d's. Any suggestions or advice?

 

[jazzyhope]

Screw it!! I cant take it. I just ate 4-7.5's. I wonder if a 3-4 day detox wouldn't be better than days or weeks of w/d's from subsoxone?

 

[SubDude]

there is a "legal benzodiazepine" aka phenazepam. not sure how much i'm allowed to say, but i know can't say where to get it

What do you mean by legal? Can you get it at a drugstore [offline]. I can get practically any benzo online but if I don't have a script, can be arrested [in my state] for possession of a controlled substance.

 

[jazzyhope]

The hydro's helped. I have taken 16 of them and still do not feel anything except relief from w/d's.. no buzz. That's insane!! How can that be? Surely the sub was out of my system after 4 days?

 

[PendulumAM]

I have a taper question. When I went back to college after winter break, my boyfriend finally got me to try shooting roxy's, and that's what I started with. So I would do a roxy a day until March when my boyfriend met one of his old dope connects and started getting good dope. I started doing that and ended up doing one 20 bag (about .2 grams) a day. I would feel dopesick the next morning until I did more. Well now I am back home for summer break, and I brought some of my boyfriends suboxenes with me. I have 11 left (out of 14) and I have been doing half a pill a day. I haven't done dope in 5 days. When I wake up in the morning I don't feel physically sick but I feel awfully depressed until I take my suboxene half. So once the suboxenes gone, how long do you think it would take me to get over withdrawals? how should I taper off?

 

[fm1983]

^ do you do 1/2 the pill at once or over the course of the day? Usually when I go to suboxone after opiate use, I use about 4-5mg daily for the first day or 2. I dose all nasal. I do 2mg in the morning, and then later in the day do another 2-3mg. By the 3rd day or so I can get by I can get by on about 2mg or so. And i keep cutting down, using as little as I can during the day. Spacing out the dosages really helps out a lot.

I suggest trying the same. First, break your dose up into 2 or 3 doses in a day if you havent already. By the 3rd day, cut out a 1mg of your dose. A couple days later cut out .5mg. And so on and so on. You have enough pills to do a decent taper with. Space out your dosage over the course of the day. Then every few days, cut one of those doses down either by a mg or .5mg. Keep doing this until you are down to like .25 or .5mg a day, and then jump off. The lower you can get the better.

 

[The Hebrew Hammer]

the best way to taper suboxone in my opinion, is to wait until you can not stand being in withdrawal any longer (atleast be at the point where youre sweating and had to take a big fat loose withdrawal shit) then take HALF the dose you took the last time.

If you do this until it becomes almost impossible to divide the doses any smaller, then dilute the last bit you have in water and use equal, small, doses until its gone.

This only really works if you truly wait until you are in bad withdrawal before taking your doses.

 

[bigslick57]

so you're off sub now, but your wife told your sub doc to cut you off from clonaz just like that? i hope you havent been using too long or some serious complications can develop

about the sedation, clonazepam is the LEAST sedating benzo pretty much. it is sedating at first, but by week 2-4, you're used to the drug enough that you're functional

but if you want another long acting benzo, diazepam/valium has a long duration (and stronger buzz than clonazepam imo)

if you can't get anything rx'd at all, and you REALLY feel you need a benzo, there is a "legal benzodiazepine" aka phenazepam. not sure how much i'm allowed to say, but i know can't say where to get it

no no, im still on sub(8-16mg/day) and she called my doc and told him not to script me clonaz anymore cuz she didnt like me being tired at night(good lord who doesnt get tired at night!) i was taking 2mg twice a day... when i was on the xanax before that 2mg twice a day i was fine, cuz id take my 2nd dose halfway thru work and at night i would still be tired, but not AS tired as the clonaz, so my wife was ok with it..she just hates ALL DRUGS, everything, because she had luekemia when she was younger so she just hates drugs all around...but now my doc wont RX me anything for my GAD/social anxiety because my wife said she didnt like me being tired at night...i just dont know what to do...i need something as my anxiety is thru the roof

 

[qwe]

^ & :

What do you mean by legal? Can you get it at a drugstore [offline]. I can get practically any benzo online but if I don't have a script, can be arrested [in my state] for possession of a controlled substance.

there is a benzodiazepine that is not scheduled. aka it is totally legal to possess. it's not available in stores, the DEA would not like that. i think the DEA is trying to suppress phenaz and that may be why so many bunk orders are going around? but anyway, find it where you find everything-

the internet

p.s. you'll probably get some PMs advertising it. bluelight tries to keep those to a minimum but spammers pop up like ... bubbles

 

[qwe]

about quitting subox,

it seems i've lost my focus. i can't read textbooks, do software projects, etc. maybe i have some ADD and it was masking it

is there anything i can do for this besides stimulants?

 

[SubDude]

^ & :

there is a benzodiazepine that is not scheduled. aka it is totally legal to possess. it's not available in stores, the DEA would not like that. i think the DEA is trying to suppress phenaz and that may be why so many bunk orders are going around? but anyway, find it where you find everything-

the internet

p.s. you'll probably get some PMs advertising it. bluelight tries to keep those to a minimum but spammers pop up like ... bubbles

OK I get it... no worries with cops which is always first concern.

 

[PendulumAM]

^ do you do 1/2 the pill at once or over the course of the day?

I was snorting the 1/2 pill all at once in the morning. I actually haven't taken any suboxene yet today (my last dose was yesterday morning), I don't feel sick and I'm wondering how long I can go without it...

 

[Pegasus]

about quitting subox,

it seems i've lost my focus. i can't read textbooks, do software projects, etc. maybe i have some ADD and it was masking it

is there anything i can do for this besides stimulants?

Low doses of opiates? It's the only thing that helps me (besides kratom, which I think I remember you saying didn't help you...)