Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

[Pegasus]

^Satisfaction is a fickle thing. You can still get positive effects from it, just don't seek the same effects by going higher. Try titrating your dose a bit and experiment with the effects you receive. You vvery well may be able to find great enjoyment in a dose between 1 and 4mg... it will probably be closer to 0.5-2mg from the experience of most.

 

[enacer]

Coke and Suboxone

Is this a bad combo? Ive been on 8mg suboxone in the am for a couple months now and was going to do some yay. Cant find any info on it..

 

[Captain.Heroin]

To be honest if you like coke you'll like doing it on Suboxone. I didn't really enjoy using cocaine by itself if I wasn't on heroin, so my advice to you is to not dabble to heavily into it. It's not going to be the same as a speed ball IMO.

Some people would enjoy it fine on Suboxone, so the choice is really up to you.

-> Suboxone Mega Thread

well im feeling better now just very drained and weak after my night of hell!

apart from the constant vomiting i was spinning out big time,could hardly walk,talk,didnt really know wtf was going on??!! at times felt like i was tripping out.

i will NEVER EVER try buprenorphine again.

orriible! orrible! experience

Very sorry to hear the negative experience you had with it - perhaps liquid dosing (so as to use less than 1mg) would be a good idea if you ever wanted to try it again.

Not everyone likes buprenorphine, some people hate it. So it's a hit or miss kind of thing. But don't worry there's plenty of other drugs out there. %)

I'm astounded by how fast tolerance ramps up with Bupe. In the course of one solid week of daily recreational use, I went from 1mg flooring me to not even being satisfied with 4mg.

Yeah I would take a break if you're not being floored by 1mg anymore.

I constantly get high with 0.1mg, but then again people are different.

I prefer to use less buprenorphine combined with different adjunct medications (antihistamines, benzodiazepines, etc).

I would try going a week without it to try to regain the "flooring" effect.

BW's advice is good - try titrating the dose from < 1mg to 2mg at the most, and take a few days off when you can.

 

[dharmabum22]

I've had 2 COMPLETLY different experiences with IVing Sub. The first time I shot Suboxone, I was already heroin free and an on Sub and I DID feel a small rush and a mild high and I really noticed a high when i was off the Sub for a few days and feeling like shit. Now, the other experience with shootin Sub was HORRIFYING! I woke in the mornin about 14 hours after my last heroion shot and was already sweaty, wide gasping yawns, tears and just plain weak so I thought I was in withdtawal enough. Boy, was I wrong! About 5 seconds later this wave of heat and nausea hit me so hard I could hardly walk! I was instantly balled up and moanin on the coach, sweating profusly! The worst withdrawal I've ever felt! I could barely dial the phone to call my friend to bring me some heroin to try to feel better and it did. I shot about 10th/grm and I was fine. Another note, this was the first time I used Sub in about a year. Crazy huh?

 

[30roxi30]

if you IV subs will it leave your system faster to be able to use opiates sooner?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I've had 2 COMPLETLY different experiences with IVing Sub. The first time I shot Suboxone, I was already heroin free and an on Sub and I DID feel a small rush and a mild high and I really noticed a high when i was off the Sub for a few days and feeling like shit. Now, the other experience with shootin Sub was HORRIFYING! I woke in the mornin about 14 hours after my last heroion shot and was already sweaty, wide gasping yawns, tears and just plain weak so I thought I was in withdtawal enough. Boy, was I wrong! About 5 seconds later this wave of heat and nausea hit me so hard I could hardly walk! I was instantly balled up and moanin on the coach, sweating profusly! The worst withdrawal I've ever felt! I could barely dial the phone to call my friend to bring me some heroin to try to feel better and it did. I shot about 10th/grm and I was fine. Another note, this was the first time I used Sub in about a year. Crazy huh?

Yeah, Suboxone is best IV'd when you're heroin free.

 

[30roxi30]

Yeah, Suboxone is best IV'd when you're heroin free.

most def... i made the biggest mistake of my life when one of my buddy shot a suboxone and i seen him the junkie swagger and scratching his head and nodding out .... he would do opiate prob once a week if that but he could alway handle 60- 90 mgs ... i was jealous and thought i was feeling kinda sick and at this time i was shooting around 15 roxi 30s a day 5 at once .... and my last dose was about 12 hours before the suboxone and i had no idea what precipitated withdrawals even existed .. since i had a high tolerance stupid me shoot 12 mgs of suboxone ... after about 15-20 sec after injected i got really hot and started sweating i ran to the bathroom started puking and had instant diarrhea and couldnt breath cause i could not stop puking .. my heart felt like it was coming of my chest i thought i was going to die all in the mater of 60 sec and felt horrible for about an hour and half... and i didnt help with my buddy kept saying "dude wtf is the matter with you" and "your not going to fucking die on me are you"

the next day i typed in on google "got really sick after shooting suboxone" and found out it was precipitated withdrawals were and i also found the best website on the internet BLUELIGHT!!

 

[Captain.Heroin]

most def... i made the biggest mistake of my life when one of my buddy shot a suboxone and i seen him the junkie swagger and scratching his head and nodding out .... he would do opiate prob once a week if that but he could alway handle 60- 90 mgs ... i was jealous and thought i was feeling kinda sick and at this time i was shooting around 15 roxi 30s a day 5 at once .... and my last dose was about 12 hours before the suboxone and i had no idea what precipitated withdrawals even existed .. since i had a high tolerance stupid me shoot 12 mgs of suboxone ... after about 15-20 sec after injected i got really hot and started sweating i ran to the bathroom started puking and had instant diarrhea and couldnt breath cause i could not stop puking .. my heart felt like it was coming of my chest i thought i was going to die all in the mater of 60 sec and felt horrible for about an hour and half... and i didnt help with my buddy kept saying "dude wtf is the matter with you" and "your not going to fucking die on me are you"

the next day i typed in on google "got really sick after shooting suboxone" and found out it was precipitated withdrawals were and i also found the best website on the internet BLUELIGHT!!

Yeah I found Bluelight when I was googling to figure out if Suboxone could be IV'd. To my surprise I found out it could.

 

[pally pete]

-> Suboxone Mega Thread

Very sorry to hear the negative experience you had with it - perhaps liquid dosing (so as to use less than 1mg) would be a good idea if you ever wanted to try it again.

Not everyone likes buprenorphine, some people hate it. So it's a hit or miss kind of thing. But don't worry there's plenty of other drugs out there. %)

yeah thanks for all your helpful replies. %)

i would say it was a defiate MISS with me and i will never be trying it again for as long as i live....not even if you paid me!

now benzos are more up my street

 

[Ashley26]

I'm totally bummed because I'm so ready to quit these stupid pills and get on suboxone but I'm having trouble finding an affordable dr. One wanted 500/session. I don't have insurance

 

[Broken_LCD]

Anyone have problems with caffeine and Suboxone?

Not really a soda person but I drank a soda the other day at a restaurant and got such a headache, I thought it was a fluke. Bought a coffee 2 days ago and got another headache. So tonight when I bought a coffee I ordered decaf, I think they messed up and gave me caffeinated, I have such a bad headache, at least the sweating and chest pains went away. The only thing I can attribute this to is the Suboxone mixed with caffeine.

I've never had this problem ever. Tonight has actually been kind of scary. Almost felt like a panic attack earlier just from a coffee. I really wish the fucking guy at Dunkin wouldn't have fucked up my coffee I did ask for decaf...bastard...

 

[Broken_LCD]

I'm totally bummed because I'm so ready to quit these stupid pills and get on suboxone but I'm having trouble finding an affordable dr. One wanted 500/session. I don't have insurance

http://www.buprenorphine-doctors.com/find-a-doctor.cfm

http://www.suboxone.com/patients/resources/find_a_doctor.aspx

These two sites usually give different results for some reason, some duplicates, I don't know why. I used these when I was trying to find a doctor to take me in. Not sure if you have checked these out or not...

Instead of trying strictly a doctor, why not try a clinic that has programs to help people with no insurance, some have free slots. It's more of a pain in the ass than just going to a doctor, getting a script and being on your way but it's worth it for the help. Hopefully there are out-patient clinics in your area. Also some of the methadone clinics around here are starting to give Suboxone too, so that is worth checking out if there are some around you.

I go to a clinic instead and I have insurance, the wait was shorter, and all the doctors that had an opening around here wanted cash and didn't accept insurance. So it was my only option, I have to give urine samples and go to group meetings, but all in all I think it's for the best. If I didn't have the structure I'd probably be fucking up and not taking it as seriously as I do.

I hope things work out for you, maybe those sites might be helpful, and hopefully you can get a free slot somewhere, it's definitely worth looking into, I know a few people that have them

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I'm totally bummed because I'm so ready to quit these stupid pills and get on suboxone but I'm having trouble finding an affordable dr. One wanted 500/session. I don't have insurance

Call around, or look into getting health insurance.

You can also look into the Suboxone PAP.

Anyone have problems with caffeine and Suboxone?

Not really a soda person but I drank a soda the other day at a restaurant and got such a headache, I thought it was a fluke. Bought a coffee 2 days ago and got another headache. So tonight when I bought a coffee I ordered decaf, I think they messed up and gave me caffeinated, I have such a bad headache, at least the sweating and chest pains went away. The only thing I can attribute this to is the Suboxone mixed with caffeine.

I've never had this problem ever. Tonight has actually been kind of scary. Almost felt like a panic attack earlier just from a coffee. I really wish the fucking guy at Dunkin wouldn't have fucked up my coffee I did ask for decaf...bastard...

I very rarely consume caffeine but if I do I really don't have problems. Everyone's different though. Maybe you should avoid caffeine in the future.

 

[Suboxone]

Since I've gotten down to 2mg bupe daily I'm beginning to feel some noticeable euphoric effects. Though it's not an insane high or anything, the longer I sustain this dose, the stronger it gets. It's definitely NOT in my head, it's 100% real. Anyone else notice this at lower doses?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Since I've gotten down to 2mg bupe daily I'm beginning to feel some noticeable euphoric effects. Though it's not an insane high or anything, the longer I sustain this dose, the stronger it gets. It's definitely NOT in my head, it's 100% real. Anyone else notice this at lower doses?

The lower the dose I took, the higher I got. That's why I'm at 0.1mg per dose, 0.4 to 0.6mg average per day.

 

[pally pete]

http://www.buprenorphine-doctors.com/find-a-doctor.cfm

http://www.suboxone.com/patients/resources/find_a_doctor.aspx

These two sites usually give different results for some reason, some duplicates, I don't know why. I used these when I was trying to find a doctor to take me in. Not sure if you have checked these out or not...

Instead of trying strictly a doctor, why not try a clinic that has programs to help people with no insurance, some have free slots. It's more of a pain in the ass than just going to a doctor, getting a script and being on your way but it's worth it for the help. Hopefully there are out-patient clinics in your area. Also some of the methadone clinics around here are starting to give Suboxone too, so that is worth checking out if there are some around you.

I go to a clinic instead and I have insurance, the wait was shorter, and all the doctors that had an opening around here wanted cash and didn't accept insurance. So it was my only option, I have to give urine samples and go to group meetings, but all in all I think it's for the best. If I didn't have the structure I'd probably be fucking up and not taking it as seriously as I do.

I hope things work out for you, maybe those sites might be helpful, and hopefully you can get a free slot somewhere, it's definitely worth looking into, I know a few people that have them

how about a) move to the uk = NHS free medical care for all.

or b) embrace obamas healthcare changes that he is trying to implement? INSTEAD OF DISMISSING THEM AS OLD STYLE EUROPOEAN SOCIALIST STATE RUN PROGRAMS WITH DEATH SQUADS ETC ( cant believe anybody would actaully fall for that claptrap??!!)

good luck president obama,your country need YOU,i hope you can pull it off

 

[Captain.Heroin]

how about a) move to the uk = NHS free medical care for all.

or b) embrace obamas healthcare changes that he is trying to implement? INSTEAD OF DISMISSING THEM AS OLD STYLE EUROPOEAN SOCIALIST STATE RUN PROGRAMS WITH DEATH SQUADS ETC ( cant believe anybody would actaully fall for that claptrap??!!)

good luck president obama,your country need YOU,i hope you can pull it off

Giving out sub-par health care is not the answer, drug legalization is.

This isn't CE&P so let's keep politics to that forum.

 

[pally pete]

Giving out sub-par health care is not the answer, drug legalization is.

This isn't CE&P so let's keep politics to that forum.

ok cool im sorry.

its just that we all know there are very few politicians who advocate drug legalization (either side of the pond) due to the fact that the populist majority will see them as being 'soft' on drugs and therefore there chance of running for office,let alone getting in are pretty much zero.
'
anyway sorry political rant over :D

 

[DeLee]

Finally i have a chance of getting into the program...i hope! I Hope!
Would make me manage a normal working life.

Q
1)Anyways, does Fentanyl go with Bupe like Tramadol does?

And second question, does Bupe dimmish Ketamine's effect at all?
Did 1.5grams over a week everyday IM/SubQ and the last days IV.
A nice procedure were to IM/SubQ a dose wait 1-2min and then slam a smaller dose IV.
God i hope my supply has one more gram or atleast quarter of a gram.

How much does 1gram of powdery crystalls Ketamine go for in the US and UK ?

Anyway do some of you add something to your bupe solurion to get "something" more out of it?
Hydroxyzine - sometimes at night. Koffazone (400mg Phenazone & 50mg Caffein) - this i only use to add to clean pure street amphetamine for greater ryýúsh IVed, but tried it with bupe too.

And soon to come Midazolam 7,5mg...will be fun.
Q
2)How much Hydroxizine do you shoot in one dose?
The most i took was 3x25mg Atarax = 75mg Hydroxizine. I don't know if i wanna go any higher than that though.

Well tomorow i'll be getting a couple of Lergigan (Promethazine) the dude said they were more of sedating than Atarax (Hydroxizine)
If thats the case ill switch my Atarax prescription to Lergigan.

 

[Trigeminal]

Anyone have problems with caffeine and Suboxone?

Not really a soda person but I drank a soda the other day at a restaurant and got such a headache, I thought it was a fluke. Bought a coffee 2 days ago and got another headache. So tonight when I bought a coffee I ordered decaf, I think they messed up and gave me caffeinated, I have such a bad headache, at least the sweating and chest pains went away. The only thing I can attribute this to is the Suboxone mixed with caffeine.

I've never had this problem ever. Tonight has actually been kind of scary. Almost felt like a panic attack earlier just from a coffee. I really wish the fucking guy at Dunkin wouldn't have fucked up my coffee I did ask for decaf...bastard...

I drink a shitload of coffee every single day (especially if I take Suboxone) and I've never gotten headaches from it.

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Anyway, I've gone ~74 h w/out Suboxone and for some reason I feel just fine... Slight runny nose (it comes and goes) but that's it.

Not sure why I suddenly stopped having withdrawals but I'm going to take my good fortune and run with it.