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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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Oh nice! Yeah 30mg is a high dose. I am feeling great on 7.5mg as we speak. :) 15mg would cause me to pass out and not wake up again for a long time lol. But it's refreshing sleep. :D


Im on 30mg and I am feeling nice, I think that Suboxone really makes benzos shine. I havnt done any sub today, but I did do 4mg IV last night, and I did to much, but since it has a nice half life, the 30mg is feeling nice, but not as nice if I did some sub today.

1mg of kpin will have me all over the place all day long, but 30mg of tem just is calming to me.


and to the person who wants to extract the naloxone from the suboxone. you do know that it will do nothing right? you will prob lose some bupe in the process of extraction
 
hey Captain, I remember reading on here somewhere about taking or attempting to take nalaxone out of suboxone to where it is pure bupe, If you could tell me how to do this or direct me where this is explained or talked about on this site i would greatly appreciate it.

I have a script for brand name subutex but ive ran out and have some suboxone that i would like to inject. Ive injected suboxone plenty of times before but would prefer to try and do it without the nalaxone in it, or at least as little as possible. Thanks
Just IV Suboxone, and use a micron filter. Suboxone can be IV'd easily.
 
Just IV Suboxone, and use a micron filter. Suboxone can be IV'd easily.

I know that it can, ive done it dozens of times before, i would prefer to not taste the flavoring that comes a second after injecting it. Also i dont get the same feeling from IVing suboxone as i do my brand name subutex or generic subutex for that matter. How can i obtain a micron filter?
 
I know that it can, ive done it dozens of times before, i would prefer to not taste the flavoring that comes a second after injecting it. Also i dont get the same feeling from IVing suboxone as i do my brand name subutex or generic subutex for that matter. How can i obtain a micron filter?

I'll PM you about micron filters.

I didn't know you can taste Suboxone when you IV it. I just get that heroin taste in my mouth which is weird cuz it's not heroin LOL. But yeah, I have no idea how to filter out the flavoring, I'd do it myself but I am 100% clueless on that. Sorry man.

It's interesting you say Subutex gives you better effects. I'm not sure what accounts for that? IV Suboxone has been fine for me. *shrugs*
 
Im on 30mg and I am feeling nice, I think that Suboxone really makes benzos shine. I havnt done any sub today, but I did do 4mg IV last night, and I did to much, but since it has a nice half life, the 30mg is feeling nice, but not as nice if I did some sub today.

1mg of kpin will have me all over the place all day long, but 30mg of tem just is calming to me.


and to the person who wants to extract the naloxone from the suboxone. you do know that it will do nothing right? you will prob lose some bupe in the process of extraction

No i didnt know it wouldnt do anything.

I actually was able to obtain some Buprenex(Bupe hydrochloride) so i think im gonna stick with it for the night.

How do you know about extracting the naloxone by the way and what it will do? I was just wondering if it can be done. If it cant thats fine, i can do IV suboxone like normal until i get my brand subutex script.
 
i also would like info on how to extract the naloxone because like the guy said before me it does not have the same effect as iv subutex. it holds me just as long and takes me out of withdrawal just as fast, but it just doesnt provide the high that subutex does. i know it doesnt make sense because bupe has a higher affinit,y but this is not placebo, this is common fact where im from.
 
? how to get on suboxone ?

I've been on pods, oxy and vicodin (rotating depending on availability, as well as combining) for 6 months now - almost the whole time it's been daily. lately I've been sticking mostly to the pods, using 4 or 5 twice a day, and sometimes adding 20mg oxy for a little boost.

I'm considering asking my general practitioner about suboxone (if he can't prescribe it, I'll ask for a reference). Do you think this is wise? My concern is that he might tell my other doctor (psychiatrist prescribing me adderall and temazepam), as well as my father who he is friends with (my dad's a GP too), that I'm addicted to opiates. Can legally bind him to confidentiality somehow, even for talking to my other doctor? Also, I'm worried about being blackmailed into doing a rehab program for subs, which I have absolutely no time for at this point in my life.

Is this a good route to go? Are my fears unfounded or not? And am I missing anything?
 
i also would like info on how to extract the naloxone because like the guy said before me it does not have the same effect as iv subutex. it holds me just as long and takes me out of withdrawal just as fast, but it just doesnt provide the high that subutex does. i know it doesnt make sense because bupe has a higher affinit,y but this is not placebo, this is common fact where im from.
I don't really understand what you mean by that though, I get plenty high and a rush from Suboxone.

I've been on pods, oxy and vicodin (rotating depending on availability, as well as combining) for 6 months now - almost the whole time it's been daily. lately I've been sticking mostly to the pods, using 4 or 5 twice a day, and sometimes adding 20mg oxy for a little boost.

I'm considering asking my general practitioner about suboxone (if he can't prescribe it, I'll ask for a reference). Do you think this is wise? My concern is that he might tell my other doctor (psychiatrist prescribing me adderall and temazepam), as well as my father who he is friends with (my dad's a GP too), that I'm addicted to opiates. Can legally bind him to confidentiality somehow, even for talking to my other doctor? Also, I'm worried about being blackmailed into doing a rehab program for subs, which I have absolutely no time for at this point in my life.

Is this a good route to go? Are my fears unfounded or not? And am I missing anything?

There's a much easier way.

Look in the first post. FIND A SUBOXONE DOCTOR. :)
 
suppose I missed that. thanx!

I fee like I heard (somewhere) that most of the suboxone doctors in the US don't take any insurance - do you know if that's true?

My suboxone doctor takes insurance. Just call ahead and ask about it.

You can search with a mile radius from where you are, and then call the list of numbers. It's hard work but someone's gotta do it. :)
 
I know that it can, ive done it dozens of times before, i would prefer to not taste the flavoring that comes a second after injecting it. Also i dont get the same feeling from IVing suboxone as i do my brand name subutex or generic subutex for that matter. How can i obtain a micron filter?


I IV my suboxone ( with a micron filter )but i've been seeing more and more people saying that subutex and the generic are better too shoot.. i just went to my sub doc friday and dont see him for another month but i might ask to switch to the generic for financial problems. id like to try just one subutex to test and see what the difference is.
 
suppose I missed that. thanx!

I fee like I heard (somewhere) that most of the suboxone doctors in the US don't take any insurance - do you know if that's true?

mine takes insurance too.. when i had it. :( now its all my cash ,or a check from family members keeping me clean. but yeah mine does accept insurance. :D
 
wassup yall. im really been diggin this sub megathread the past days. Ive been havin some SHIT fuckin problems wit subs the last 2 times ive tried to stop bangin dope and detox myself off subs. So here goes,
Me and my girl (both IV dope users, me bout 1/2 brick 30 bag a day habit, hers about 15 - 20 bags a day ish.) We decided to go into a detox, me hopin they did detox like they did 5 - 6 yrs ago with low mg's of methadone and weened u off that way. nope, its all bupe. and this detox is incridibly ignorant. So i did my last shot at 7 AM b4 iwent in. I kno about precipitated w/d's b4 this but im by no means a sub doctor w/ half lifes and agonists and all that shit. So i wait al day and at 10 o'clock meds i realized it aint been newhere near 24 hrs yet but i asked the nurse if iwould be okay takin it, she said yea. so i fuckin ate it, sublingually of course. I ate a kpin my roomate snuck is so at first i was told by my gf that she came in to kiss me gnite and i was sleep. but about 1/2 hour after eatin the sub all hell broke loose. I felt like my insides were jumping around like i had a bunch of fuckin little men running around inside of me. I couldnt sit or lay down for more than 20 seconds without getting jolted up uncontrollably out of bed or off the toilet. I got up and was walkin around the halls (getting yelled at in the meantime) cuz it was physically impossible to stay in that tiny room, i ahd to keep moving, regardless of the other w/d symptoms i was having. Eventually they threatned to put me in a restraint chair/ and send me to the psych ward if i didnt get in my room. it was about 12 am at this point. ididnt kno wat else to do, i knocked on my girls door to let her kno wat was up but there was no way i was gettin strapped in a restraint chair in that condition. I calld my pops for a ride from my roomates smuggled phone and i ran out the only unlocked door, the fire door. I was in this condition ALL NIGHT even at home and i was so frantic on wat to do; i was forced to ride it out and finally was able to lay still at like 8 am and slept till 3 pm. Woke up and felt alrite but still not 100%. so i got dope. (kill me). Continued to use esp with the guilt of leavin my girl in a detox alone. Now this time i decide to stop, and i thought this was a sure thing this time. I got some subutex from a friend who went into a detox and didnt need em. I thought there wud b less chance of it throwin me into w/d cuz it doest have the nalaxone in it like subs do. Well 2 days ago from today i did only 5 bags in the middle of the day after doing 25 the day before. IT was my last of the 30 i had. SO i didnt do anything all taht night and slept and all. I woke up at about 8:30 and was pretty fuckin sick. I held off till about 10:30/11:30 and had to figure suttin out. i figured i try shootin like 2 mg of the subutex hopin for some relief. and i ate the other 6mg sublingually. about 10 mins later i was alot sickker than i was normally and it was BAD. honestly NOT as bad as the time of detox, but BAD. i was forced to lie ot my pops to get hte spare car, get my gf to make him tell her where the spare was cuz i cant drive nad he knew i was sick. told em i needed to get to a meth clinic (which are havens, only time i dont feel sick is on like 45 mg's of methadone all day n night im okay) made her drive me to the hood and get some bags, shot like 2, and it did barely nuttin, had like 5 more so i shot 4 and gave her 1. i actually felt SOMEWHAT OKAY, and mind u this is like 4 ish now cuz we got in an accident on the way down (which the wait was HELLLLLL). i still felt bad tho, and the sickness came back full effect about an hour or so later. I went BACK DOWN and got 6 bags, it was about 5:30 now and i shot 3 and got the WORSTE CRAZY PINS N NEEDLES OF MY LIFE!!!! i didnt kno wtf was goin on i thought i was gonna OD, and it was decent good everyday dope. i guess it was the reaction from breakin the sub, cuz after iwas sooo much better. Now i had 3 bags extra and i did 1 last night. and the 2 bag mini shot this morning. I really wanna stop and im thinking about gettin some bags and just doin 1 bag shots wen i feel horribly sick for a day or two then wait and take a sub, hopefully that will make the w/d's that bad or at least barely have any dope in me to fuck the sub up AGAIN. cuz i dont kno wat to do. do you think sinc ei did most of the dope besides this mornings mini shot with sub in my system ill be decently safe taken a sub next time i get sick, whenever taht happens. or shud i ween off first. I realy need to stop doin dope but icant stand w/d's and the precipitated w/d's ARE TEN TIMES FUCKIN WORSE> i NEVER EVER wanna feel that way AGAIN. ESP with no moeny and no ride. omg, how horrible these experiences were, its making me really think i shudnt be on sub and shud maybe go to a meth clinic. please someone help ASAP, i gotta get my shit striaght.

Thanks for listening to the rant, but this has been a HUUGE problem and wat ive gone thru is unthinkable.

You just have to wait longer. Like 48 hours. Or possibly try switching to something like codiene for a week first.

I still haven't managed to switch from methadone to subutex and I've been meaning to for ages now.
 
yes the transition from methadone to bupe is difficult. i took a break from bupe for a few days and ate methadone for 3 days straight (80mgs each day) and i waited like 2 and a half days and still got thrown into precipitated.

also like i said, im really interested to see peoples opinions on iv subutex vs. iv suboxone, is there any way i can make a poll? i tried to make a thread but i was told to "complain" about suboxone in this thread. the shitty thing about the thread is u ask a question and maybe a few people will answer it if they check the thread at that time. it just sucks because i would like to hear more than a few opinions on this.
this is the most enlightened and aware community on the subject.(which is good, because it's a complex drug)
 
I don't see any reason for why a Subutex vs. Suboxone thread couldnt be started, as there is one for v.s methadone.. But don't hold me to it.

I too would be interested in peoples opinions on this as I have a choice of the two. People have strongly urged me to choose subutex, but the people in the clinic are pushing suboxone..
 
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i have called almost every doctor within the western PA area, i have found 1 person who can prescribe bupe AND takes insurance... he is not taking new patients.

all the other doctors want a ton of money to get a script, and they do not take insurance.

and most of them are known for prescribing most of the oxy too, get people addicted and charge them out the ass to get better is what they are doing
 
i have called almost every doctor within the western PA area, i have found 1 person who can prescribe bupe AND takes insurance... he is not taking new patients.

all the other doctors want a ton of money to get a script, and they do not take insurance.

and most of them are known for prescribing most of the oxy too, get people addicted and charge them out the ass to get better is what they are doing

it might be worth taking a day to drive to eastern pa, there are literally dozens of doctors in the allentown/philadelphia area that prescribe subs and take insurance. in the worst case, methadone might be a decent option...i'm sure there are clinics around the pitt area.



anyways, i've been trying to lower my subs dose down to a dose of 1-2mg. i'm currently taking 4mg twice daily, so i'm basically trying to half my dose. does anyone have an example or suggestion of a solid taper schedule?
i'm not exactly in a rush, but i'm desperately trying to lower my dose without feeling sick to help with the ridiculous side effects i get. i'm still considering methadone but it's an impossible topic to discuss with my parents, as they are dead set against it. i feel like if i don't switch i'm prone to relapse, and it blows that i can't explain it that way. with the way they are (fucking absolutely batshit insane), admitting to a potential relapse for any reason is like relapsing to them...i'm likely to wind up back in rehab or out on the street. my psychiatrist is no help either, as i posted last week after i met with him. he told me to go doctor shop for oxys and wouldnt even entertain a discussion of other options. fml.

any input is sincerely appreciated.
 
yes the transition from methadone to bupe is difficult. i took a break from bupe for a few days and ate methadone for 3 days straight (80mgs each day) and i waited like 2 and a half days and still got thrown into precipitated.

also like i said, im really interested to see peoples opinions on iv subutex vs. iv suboxone, is there any way i can make a poll? i tried to make a thread but i was told to "complain" about suboxone in this thread. the shitty thing about the thread is u ask a question and maybe a few people will answer it if they check the thread at that time. it just sucks because i would like to hear more than a few opinions on this.
this is the most enlightened and aware community on the subject.(which is good, because it's a complex drug)

The mega thread is all about Subutex and Suboxone, it's easy to bring up questions about each here.

Since I have yet to try Subutex, I wouldn't want to say definitively that they are the same thing...but I have a good feeling, for me, there won't be any difference (other than the color and flavoring).

I don't see any reason for why a Subutex vs. Suboxone thread couldnt be started, as there is one for v.s methadone.. But don't hold me to it.
Because we don't discuss methadone in this thread, whereas we do discuss Subutex, buprenex, and buprenorphine via patches. That's why it's called the "Suboxone/Buprenorphine Megathread and FAQ v6.0" it's easier than saying "Suboxone/Subutex/Buprenex/Buprenorphine Patch Mega Thread and FAQ v6.0".

i have called almost every doctor within the western PA area, i have found 1 person who can prescribe bupe AND takes insurance... he is not taking new patients.
Try eastern PA and different states.

it might be worth taking a day to drive to eastern pa, there are literally dozens of doctors in the allentown/philadelphia area that prescribe subs and take insurance. in the worst case, methadone might be a decent option...i'm sure there are clinics around the pitt area.



anyways, i've been trying to lower my subs dose down to a dose of 1-2mg. i'm currently taking 4mg twice daily, so i'm basically trying to half my dose. does anyone have an example or suggestion of a solid taper schedule?
i'm not exactly in a rush, but i'm desperately trying to lower my dose without feeling sick to help with the ridiculous side effects i get. i'm still considering methadone but it's an impossible topic to discuss with my parents, as they are dead set against it. i feel like if i don't switch i'm prone to relapse, and it blows that i can't explain it that way. with the way they are (fucking absolutely batshit insane), admitting to a potential relapse for any reason is like relapsing to them...i'm likely to wind up back in rehab or out on the street. my psychiatrist is no help either, as i posted last week after i met with him. he told me to go doctor shop for oxys and wouldnt even entertain a discussion of other options. fml.

any input is sincerely appreciated.

Take 2mg and see how long it lasts you. It might last you all day, or you might want to take another 2mg at night.

If you want to stick to 2mg in the morning and 1mg at night that would work too.

That should be better if you get insane side effects from 8mg per day.
 
What do you do for money CH? Are you a student or work? What are your aspirations in life?

Sorry for being nosy but you're obviously a large player in this forum and my curiosity is getting the best of me.
 
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