Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

[cire113]

Ive been taking suboxone for 1 month... only about 1 or 2 mgs every day... I was clean for 15 months then relapsed but i have about 200mgs left of suboxone... I cant just throw them away

I wonder if i should just prolong the inevitable

 

[newbie22]

Hello all, forgive me for writing in one long line, my enter key doesn't work..lol. I was just wondering, if I've been using opiates for awhile, and 20-30 mgs still gets me pretty fucked up, how much suboxone is safe to take? I'm just worried because my friend gave me a bunch and I wanted to try it out but I don't want to OD. Do you think like .5 maybe? I know a lot of y'all will be like "you shouldn't take it at all" but the weird thing is I've been taking 10-20 mgs of hydro for a few months now, and for some reason that amount still gets me fucked up. Maybe it's cause I only take it past 12:00 am to help me sleep. Anyways, I still get WD even with that small amount..minor but unpleasant. So I do wish to at least try out the sub when I run out of hydros, which will be soon. Sorry for the rambling...long story short, will I be ok if I take .5?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Hello all, forgive me for writing in one long line, my enter key doesn't work..lol. I was just wondering, if I've been using opiates for awhile, and 20-30 mgs still gets me pretty fucked up, how much suboxone is safe to take? I'm just worried because my friend gave me a bunch and I wanted to try it out but I don't want to OD. Do you think like .5 maybe? I know a lot of y'all will be like "you shouldn't take it at all" but the weird thing is I've been taking 10-20 mgs of hydro for a few months now, and for some reason that amount still gets me fucked up. Maybe it's cause I only take it past 12:00 am to help me sleep. Anyways, I still get WD even with that small amount..minor but unpleasant. So I do wish to at least try out the sub when I run out of hydros, which will be soon. Sorry for the rambling...long story short, will I be ok if I take .5?

If you're in WD from opiates, or they are no longer effecting you, you can take the suboxone then. I would start with 2mg (one quarter of a 8mg pill), and increase the dose every hour-2 hours if needed.

If you still feel the effects of a mu-agonist (like hydrocodone) or aren't yet in the WD process, wait until you are.

Your tolerance is still relatively low and 2mg of suboxone should be more than enough.

 

[newbie22]

If you're in WD from opiates, or they are no longer effecting you, you can take the suboxone then. I would start with 2mg (one quarter of a 8mg pill), and increase the dose every hour-2 hours if needed.

If you still feel the effects of a mu-agonist (like hydrocodone) or aren't yet in the WD process, wait until you are.

Your tolerance is still relatively low and 2mg of suboxone should be more than enough.

Thx man. Im gonna try even less than that, but your advice makes me feel better. I still don't get this mu-agonist stuff, but obviously I need to research it myself to understand it. As long as the sub gives me a nod, I'll be happy...lol.

 

[chrisinabox]

i think 2mg will be too much for your lack of tolerance. also, are you using suboxone to get off opiates or using it to get high?? with your tolerance, it might get you high but suboxone shouldn't be used for this, cause if you use it this way, you will end up just switching one addiction for another.

 

[Newone]

Hello all, forgive me for writing in one long line, my enter key doesn't work..lol. I was just wondering, if I've been using opiates for awhile, and 20-30 mgs still gets me pretty fucked up, how much suboxone is safe to take? I'm just worried because my friend gave me a bunch and I wanted to try it out but I don't want to OD. Do you think like .5 maybe? I know a lot of y'all will be like "you shouldn't take it at all" but the weird thing is I've been taking 10-20 mgs of hydro for a few months now, and for some reason that amount still gets me fucked up. Maybe it's cause I only take it past 12:00 am to help me sleep. Anyways, I still get WD even with that small amount..minor but unpleasant. So I do wish to at least try out the sub when I run out of hydros, which will be soon. Sorry for the rambling...long story short, will I be ok if I take .5?

I would consider your habit very moderate and wouldn't even switch to suboxone, sell em and buy mite of what your taking and use those to taper down comfortably.
If your only taking 10-20mg of hydro in the evening you could probably just quit with the help of a sleep aid.
I would quit now while your still a "cheap date" it's a very fast and slippery slope to full blown dependancy, which I don't wish on anyone.
Good luck, be strong, and have patience.

 

[newbie22]

Well, I've reached a point in my life where I have a steady job and after using opiates on and off I find I work fine while I'm on opiates. Plus, I have an opinion that if someone who has a legitimate reason to be taking opiates (for pain or cancer), and can live their life fine with them, then a responsible user can do the same. I mean, why can't opiates be my "anti-anxiety" drug like benzos are? I've always held this opinion about drugs, as I think all drugs should be OTC. I do appreciate the advice though as I know exactly what you're talking about, many people do abuse drugs. But many people also abuse alcohol, and that's a terrible drug too. That doesn't mean there aren't responsible people who drink and enjoy their life the same. Life is short, and if you have the ability to use opiates and have it not effect the people around you then why not. Now, with that being said, I would like to stick to hydros or oxy (which I have done before) but right now my guy is out of town till January and stupid me didn't stock up enough. I've been holding these subs for awhile and I for sure don't have the market to sell them. I think I'll be ok; I'm gonna smash it up into powder and keep diving the haves till it gets to like .2, do y'all think that would be fine? Again, let me just remind y'all I am not disagreeing with your advice, infact I very much appreciate the concern. I would never advise someone to use suboxone. I do think I'll be ok though, and hopefully I can make it last till my guy is back in town. If not, I'll have to deal with my consequences and get a little sick for awhile.

 

[chrisinabox]

^ya if you must, start with .2 and work your way up until satisfied, and once you get to the point where its enough, stop there and don't continue increasing your dose

 

[brutus]

I've always held this opinion about drugs, as I think all drugs should be OTC.

There are so many things wrong with that sentence.

 

[newbie22]

There are so many things wrong with that sentence.

So, then you must think alcohol should be prescribed too? As, it has WORSE withdraws than opiates and you can easily throw your life away too it. If opiates shouldn't be OTC, they should at least be prescribed for depression and anxiety rather than just pain management.

 

[johanneschimpo]

^ There's even more shit wrong in this sentence. Try to think before you type.

 

[newbie22]

^ There's even more shit wrong in this sentence. Try to think before you type.

LOL, or I could just make a general statement like you and try to come off as being smart? I'm a libertarian and believe it or not many people have these beliefs. In Amsterdam, opiate use is much more tolerated and methadone clinics are much easier to access. Just because someone can ruin their lives with a drug, doesn't mean I will. I mean, they prescribe speed for focusing...you telling me that makes more sense then prescribing opiates for depression? You can ruin your life on any drug by doing a lot, you have to have control.


But why I am typing all this. The reply will just be, "wow, so many things wrong with that paragraph, you should read it again." For some reason, people are ok with drugs but when it comes to opiates....OMG, don't fuck with that. Well, I do fuck with it...and have for years, on and off. I'm still here making a great living for myself. And I'm not the only one, many people are who take the medication for back pain and whatnot.

 

[chrisinabox]

^i agree that opiates and all drugs should be legal as well but there is a thread in DC called "do you think drugs should be legal?" this type of talk would be better suited there, not in the suboxone mega thread.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

^i agree that opiates and all drugs should be legal as well but there is a thread in DC called "do you think drugs should be legal?" this type of talk would be better suited there, not in the suboxone mega thread.

I furthermore agree that all drugs should be legal, I'm also a libertarian, and I also agree that this thread isn't the place for discussing politics, it's a place to discuss buprenorphine and/or its combination with naloxone.

I guess one could discuss drug legalization in this thread, specifically to achieve buprenorphine's legality (i.e. it is no longer a classified substance, it can be bought like you can legal OTC substances), but that talk really should be kept out of the thread as well, because OD is not about politics.

Furthermore, I love to discuss politics, this just isn't the place.

 

[opiumdreamz]

listen newbie22 after reading all of your posts my advice would be to NOT post anything else, you've gotten all of the info you needed and are living up to your name(handle) w/ more uninformed posts. take a low dose of suboxone and w/ your low tolerance you will be ok. i would say just stop taking opiates all together and this should suit you well considering your 10-20mg. "habit", but you won't listen and i can understand that.
not to be rude but this is my advice, have a merry christmas.

 

[TheDankaholic]

Well Suboxone has SAVED my life so far. I hope no one sits around and abuses it just to get high making it harder for those who NEED it to actually get it. I went from 1-2 grams of black tar heroin a day to only 4mg's of Suboxone and it was more than enough to kill all withdrawls and NOT make me feel high. Isn't that the point of Suboxone? So we STOP doing opiates. I thought it was to clean up? Im so glad I read as much as I could before aquiring Suboxone so i KNEW to keep my dose as low as possible from the get go to make it an easier quick taper to get off of. I plan on cutting down to 2 mg's very soon, then 1 mg, and so forth until I can just stop. I plan on being on Suboxone for 3 weeks max and just dealing with the inevitable after that. Thank you Suboxone for saving my, a good job, good grades in school, my daughter, & my amazing g/f before I through it all away for a hollow existance on heroin. I tried kicking cold turkey a few times only to find the heroin withdrawls absolutely unbearable, puking everyone, in agonizing pain. So Sub's were the miracle I always needed. Methadone never worked because I was STILL getting high! Sub's and a 60# 2mg Klonopin prescription have kept me sober so far! Im also not over doing the Benzo's. Ive been on Kpin's for 3 years and I'm lucky if I take 1 mg every 2 days or so. I just have a large script and stock pile them ;-)

 

[oldhead]

Dankaholic, I'm with you. I have been on Subs for a month and got down to 2mgs. Not sure where to go from here. How long should we stay on this stuff? I read where people have been on it for years and started doing 24mg a day. Absolutley crazy. I was doing 200 mg. a day of OC when I stopped. never used more then 6mgs a day of suboxen. I'm going to get down to 1mg soon. I never missed a beat in life doing it this way.

Newbie, I'm with you on OTC drugs. If i could afford and get 200mg of OC a day I would stay on it for life.

 

[evolutionofthemind]

Hey newbie22, I agree with a lot of what you have to say but listen to the advice on here as well. We have some good advice about keeping your habit low enough that it doesn't take over your life, etc. and my personal opinion is to do NO MORE than 4mg a day or every other day until your dealer gets back in town or whatever, then toss the suboxone. You can't really get high on it anyway, it's only a partial agonist rather than a full agonist like percs, oc, or viks would be. It's for staying well or for tapering down off opiates, not for a recreational high.

 

[evolutionofthemind]

Dankaholic, I'm with you. I have been on Subs for a month and got down to 2mgs. Not sure where to go from here. How long should we stay on this stuff? I read where people have been on it for years and started doing 24mg a day. Absolutley crazy. I was doing 200 mg. a day of OC when I stopped. never used more then 6mgs a day of suboxen. I'm going to get down to 1mg soon. I never missed a beat in life doing it this way.

Newbie, I'm with you on OTC drugs. If i could afford and get 200mg of OC a day I would stay on it for life.

I second that.

 

[TheDankaholic]

Dankaholic, I'm with you. I have been on Subs for a month and got down to 2mgs. Not sure where to go from here. How long should we stay on this stuff? I read where people have been on it for years and started doing 24mg a day. Absolutley crazy. I was doing 200 mg. a day of OC when I stopped. never used more then 6mgs a day of suboxen. I'm going to get down to 1mg soon. I never missed a beat in life doing it this way.

Newbie, I'm with you on OTC drugs. If i could afford and get 200mg of OC a day I would stay on it for life.

Keep tapering down till you can get to 1 mg, than 0.5 mg's, then 0.5 mg's every other day, then stop i guess. I sure it sounds simpler than it is, but thats the plan for me. i don't even want to hit the 1 month mark with suboxone if I don't have too. Anythings better than all the heroin I was doing though. Atleast I can function on Suboxone and not really feel any type of high. Ive NEVER felt even a head change from suboxone am I alone here? I keep hearing people talk about getting high off of it yada yada yada but I went from 1-2 grams of Black Tar Heroin down to 4 mg's of SUboxone and it was just enough to make me not have withdrawls but i've felt nothing but sober from it. Am I alone here on this one? Am I the only one that doesn't see any recreational value in suboxone so this talk of getting high off it seems ridiculous to me? It feels nothing like a good dose of Methadone did for maintenance which made me feel REALLY freaking high when id take it!