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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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evolutionofthemind said:
This is most unfair... I check out the pics and I wanted to rip them off the screen and slam one on... that'd be so awesome to just put on of those patches on at the start of the week and not have to worry about WD... :\
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the 20mg patches only put out roughly 0.5mg a day over 7days. the maximum of these patches you can wear are 2 x 20mg. they may work for a person tapering down from 1-2mg but theyre generally used for pain, in my anyway,

no chances or slamming them bro (if thats what you mean by slamming them). theyre a sticky/gel like patch and it would take some experimenting to get them to an IV'abe solution, which i would find pretty harmful.

eating the patch on the other hand, even with bupes low oral bioavailabity, if you have a low tolerance (like me at the moment) keeps me high for 24+ hours on ocassions. though repeated abuse is obviously going to increase tolerance to a point where it won't work
 
Hey leftwing you're on bupe patches for pain management only? The reason I ask is because I hope the patches work well for maintenance as well. .5 mg a day for 7 days would be perfect for me. Do you find it as effective as tablets? Even if you do use it as an analgesic I assume it would be easily compared to someone switching from tabs to patches for maintenance. Sorry to slam you with questions bro, you're the only person I've heard be on the patches and I would really appreciate if you shared your experience.edit- Just re read your last post. They are used for pain management mostly. Shit I wonder why, maybe they are easily abused
 
to johnny,

im not too certain they'd work overly well for someone who has a big habbit and on maintainance. the highest dose is 2 x 20mg patches, so around 1mg released throughout 24 hrs. there has been speculation about maintainance with them from what i read last night.

i've never tried the tabs so i cannot compare them, sorry.

theyre certainly plausible for someone like me who has severe chronic pain in my back.

hit me up via pm if you have any other questions. ive got msn if you wanna have a chat bro.

peace
 
helllllo

just a message to let people know not to give up hope - this stuff works - it worked for me. im clean and have been for 4 months (clean from subs 5 months - herion maybe 1year)

Suboxone cleared my head so i could get to grips with life again - then i tapper and am now free of drugs. (methdone i found as foggy headed)

i was addicted to heroin for 5 ish years. tryd methadone (a subjective big mistake) pist about on suboxone (losing my mind on ocation as i thort i was smart - re-using - taping to quick etc etc etc) for a year - but am now clean.

however i changed everything - i mean EVERYTHING -

i have moved to the otherside of the world and have a new job and beautiful new girlfriend (soon to be wife - i am extremely poor but i did this on next to nothing so money should raly be an excuse in the western world) i am in a country that has a fucking massive amount of heroin, but as i am away from my triggers i feel NO need to use (pluss the death penalty, prisons etc i supose)

I believe knowlege on this whole subject is an excelent way to start to get your life together (making bluelight invaluable) however dont get bogged down - junkys are the best talkers and planners but the worst do'ers.

its all subjective everyone has to find there own path - due to experience suboxone is a good sign post to see.

...good luck - i just hope i dont find myself in that horrible chickenshit brown hole i spent too much time in, in the past

.........hope this is a positive happy post - i remember reading this thread in dispear, close to insanity

chow for now
 
^good job man, i am on suboxone now, have been for over 6 months after quitting heroin. i can't seem to wanna make myself get off opiates alltogether tho. i feel i will go back to using if i do.
 
^ then take it slow, slow, slow, slow but dont kid yourself - this addiction seems to make it very hard to be able to hear the lies you tell yourself (or ALL of them). - you know this is no way to be....

fill your life with as many new and personally interesting things that make you happy (avoid all recrational chemicals - and befriended clowns for a while - if not perminatly ) try and switch your focus, if not for a while, then a while longer, longer etc etc....i think you know your own way, if not deep down...

...you might not have realised it that much but opiate addiction erodes and rapes your self esteam and self worth...you need to pull some strength from some hiden reserves or somewhere, now or when time comes (you will know when if your not listening thos lies thos monkey voices rating in your head) my friend...you know this to.. i think... (if im not talking complete pig shit)

i believe that once fully addicted the proablyity of relapse never falls to 0% - but i think it generally decrease the longer your clean (forgetting personal tragitys and engative upheaveals, - that happen on the way - that knock that % up a bit.....

.....the shit could hit the fan anytime and i could take the cowards way out and give up on life at any moment. (not looking that way at present tho, but did it ever? really?who knows.........was it all ever that bad the addiction, the withdrawl??? i think so at that moment.. but my friend its quick how the body and mind forgets it - or its sharpness - its only been 4 months ( suboxone free) and it feels like another time, another life, another person....but as i said i completely changed very thing, for god sake i dont even speak english as much anymore as im learning the language of my country of residence and of my girl)

ive never meet u or any addicts reading this but i alway feel a sort of conection ( be it positive or reflected pure contempt) to a fellow addict - someone who knows the 'score' in a sense - so i really hope the best for you. keep at it my friend - you are stronger than you think...(if i can do it anyone can. I have the will power of a 11 year old girl and the back bone of a slug - i advise u not to let the situation get out of hand tho, where its 'do or die' - but maybe thats what u need...thats what i needed...to 'shit or get of the pot')

thank you chrisinabox

good luck - if it means anything my friend

(unrelated - why carnt i view journels? is it my strange foreign (sometimes cencered) concection (i know little about computers - mines that cheap i have to wind it up with a aulimum key in the back before it works) or it it this mystical new bluelight thats in progress???? - - - or am i retarded?)

...im SO tired of all this fiending - boreing everyone and myself with its geeky, boreing and cliche lamemness - i plan to grow old fucking my beautiful girl* - job i like - living on a tropical beach....no regrets tho... (sorry for ranting)

*i know the new relationship trigger - the switching one chemical addiction for a human physical one, and when that fucks up the chemical one will take hold stronger again- blah blah blah,...ive been clucking at straws for so long i dont care....


....please for give my cheap Asian beer pronouced Dyslexia and pronuced ranting.....soory i need to go back to scraching my balls and watching this sunset
 
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kelvanE said:
yea, my tolerance is mad low and "i wouldn't want it any other way" (nasty female 90s pop singer voice). i vaguely go on the nod with 1mg. no joke. :)
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I just wasn't aware the veins in the rectum or whatever would pick up such a small amount?

As for method:

For me, through advice from people on here, I dilute 4mg or so into approx 2ml of water, draw it up into a syringe, and then shoot it into my asshole.

I've also heard that you can put the small piece of suboxone (small enough to fit into the syringe) in the syringe, and then draw the water up. Then you shoot it up your ass...

I just want to use the most effective way to get the suboxone into my bloodstream without wasting any.. so please tell me the exact method you (and please - anyone else) use to administer suboxone rectally.

Thanks.

ellua said:
thanks- i skipped dosing yesterday, i feel OK today, just emotionally shaken. just got word back that it's most likely totalled, easily over $4K in damages... i have a 25 mile commute to work each way so can't go without a ride for long, and being under 25 a rental car is expensive.

anyway... feeling physically fine so i'll resume dosing as usual today. glad i don't have to deal with injuries, i have a fear that if i get an injury that needs treatment/pain relief the doctors will either be ignorant and just not treat the situation properly (the right type & amount of meds needed), or i'll be looked at as a junkie and they won't give me shit regardless. i have the PDFs sheets from NAABT that outline how to treat bupe patients who may need other opiates but still don't have confidence that it would be handled properly. o.O
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could you email me those PDF sheets by chance?

[email protected]

jaxe2000 said:
I think suboxone is a good pain killer and was wondering that same instance. thanks for the info (car Wreck)! LOL! Glad your ok. I take 32mgs daily. Its saved me from taking any other opiates. Ive also quit drinking, quit smoking pot, but do take a benzo or a benedryl for sleep every now and again. Ive been on it for 2 months and I like the way it makes me feel(atidepressent, and painkiller). I have good union insurance and I still have to pay $100.00 for a months supply. Granted without the insurance it would cost $760.00 a month. All this is for 120 pills. Does that sound right to anyone? I thought a copay of $7.50 was all i needed for any prescription. Anyway suboxone has saved my job, my marriage, my wellfare, and let me keep my family. Thanks any backround or advice is welcome. I will check in here frequently. Thanks for this forum.
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What insurance do you have?

Captain.Heroin said:
I get more out of the 1mg and 0.5mg doses I take. You can re-dose multiple times if necessary, and if not your tolerance just keeps going down.
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Two questions for you Captain:

1.) How often do you re-dose usually in a day?

2.) What is your ROA?

sixpartseven said:
Because obviously I don't, and neither do half of you who take so much Suboxone. 2 - 4mg will hold anyone with just about any tolerance just fine.
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I really wish this were true... I really do, but I can NOT get by on 2-4mg, not without being miserable...
 
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evolutionofthemind said:
Two questions for you Captain:

1.) How often do you re-dose usually in a day?

2.) What is your ROA?
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1) 2 or 3 times max. Beyond that is pointless.
2) iv - sublingually made me puke on a daily basis - the taste was horrid. I don't want to insuffulate anything else, that was the primary way I did H and I want to give my nose a rest. Rectally administering drugs would take too long...I don't have time for that.

I don't advise this ROA, might as well be maintaining yourself with heroin.

I've cut back from 4mg a day to 2mg or less and plan to go further in time. I initially started at 8 when symptoms were the worst once upon a time.
The amount I do in a day varies depending on how much I feel I need it to function. I don't do it this way to "abuse" it, if I wanted to abuse it, I could, and that's not what I like about it (SHIT...if I wanted to abuse it, I STILL wouldn't, I'd go see lady H, and I don't anymore, I'm through with mu-agonists for quite some time). I like, what a lot of people say here, how it makes one feel "normal". There's a rush to iv buprenorphine, it's the exact same rush you get when sublingually dosing buprenorphine at an equivalent dose. It's nothing more than that, it's not euphoric, it's not truly nodding, it's a different effect, but it helps me function. It's similar to the way someone takes dextro-amphetamine within a day to assist with life in my opinion. I just see it as more efficient than amphetamines could ever be.

The difference for iv suboxone is I'm able to cut back and eventually stop, and I don't have horrid WD's upon stoping, and haven't puked from usage for the longest time, and that makes me feel a lot better about life.
 
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I haven't posted on here in a long time, and i'm not about to start going into depth on some of these conversations.....

Anyways, if you take suboxone sublingually, you do not have to taste it... just take all the effort and time you put into shooting suboxone... wtf? anyways, take that effort and time and use it to keep the substance under your tongue and away from your taste buds.
don't tell me its not possible i've been on suboxone for 3 years.

And to those of you taking suboxone to 'get high', i'm sorry, but in my opinion, and yes I say opinion as to not get flamed, but that is like you have nothing else to get fucked up on... like someone bored deciding to huff naptha. For its extreme potency as an opiate, the euphoric effects are EXTREMELY mild.
I just want to make sure other people reading this dont get the wrong idea and think this is a good recreational drug. If you don't want to fuck up your tolerance for every other opiate or become opiate dependent, only use buprenorphine (suboxone) for opiod treatment and withdrawl. Just my 2 cents.

Some people think trazadone is a good high too... but then again most of them also believe it can be abused simply because of its name.
 
Pissed Off In Recovery

Dude you are in so much denial! you contradict yourself over and over. I thought this forum was for recovry. Stuff like that doesn't help. There are plenty of drug abuser friendly forums out there. This I didn't think was one of them. I am angry because I am an opiate addict in recovery, and I feel at home talking and reading others suboxone experience. Teaching people how to get high from the best chance an opiate addict has right now for a decent LIFE is WRONG!!! Suboxone is for people who want to get well. Take a hike!!
 
mr Bungle;6635075...im SO tired of all this fiending - boreing everyone and myself with its geeky said:
'Love' produces strong chemical reactions. Find the right kind from a person who wants to see you better.... and dropping an addiction becomes easier than you'd think.

Unfortunately, for me and many others.... the first time you find this, you try to hide your drug addiction, only when you relapse in situations like that, do you realize how much harder you should have tried, and end up losing more than a chance to get your life back... you lose the one who came along to help.

just something to keep in mind next time you feel the need to get high and a nice girl loves you but hates your drugs.


<3

other than that, enjoy and be safe
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jaxe2000 said:
Dude you are in so much denial! you contradict yourself over and over. I thought this forum was for recovry. Stuff like that doesn't help. There are plenty of drug abuser friendly forums out there. This I didn't think was one of them. I am angry because I am an opiate addict in recovery, and I feel at home talking and reading others suboxone experience. Teaching people how to get high from the best chance an opiate addict has right now for a decent LIFE is WRONG!!! Suboxone is for people who want to get well. Take a hike!!
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I have to agree here...

if you want to get high, go use the opiates everyone else started out on... don't fuck up the chance for others to get their life back on track by abusing suboxone... if it starts to be a widely abused drug, restrictions (which have loosened) could come back into effect, making it harder for those who need help to get the prescription... if that were to happen, then you ARE taking away the LIFE of many recovering addicts.... I know a lot of former addicts who have not relapsed in a year, and who owe their lives to this drug.... it doesn't get them high, it allows them to live a normal life. Why people would choose the worst opiate around to try and get a buzz is beyond me anyways.

I'm done ranting, I can't chew people out when I used to be looking for a high too..... but then again I didn't get it from the methadone clinic.
 
jaxe2000 said:
Dude you are in so much denial! you contradict yourself over and over. I thought this forum was for recovry. Stuff like that doesn't help. There are plenty of drug abuser friendly forums out there. This I didn't think was one of them. I am angry because I am an opiate addict in recovery, and I feel at home talking and reading others suboxone experience. Teaching people how to get high from the best chance an opiate addict has right now for a decent LIFE is WRONG!!! Suboxone is for people who want to get well. Take a hike!!
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Am I missing something here? What post are you replying to? We try not to encourage the abuse of Suboxone, so if you could point the post out that you are replying to, we could do something about it.
 
Get your suboxone for FREE!

I posted this in it's own forum but I thought I'd put it here as well so as many people see it as possible.

You have to meet certain income guidelines, and your doctor has to fill out an application for you, but this patient assistance program supposedly pays for 100% of the cost of your suboxone prescription! It sounds too good to be true, but if I was going to be taking suboxone after this month (I'm currently working on weaning off) I would be all over this!

Suboxone Patient Assistance Program

866-512-2216



Eligibility Guidelines and Notes: The patient can have no public or private prescription insurance and have an income at or below $25,500 for an individual ($34,500 for a family of two, $43,000 for a family of three) The patient must be 16 years or older. A doctor can only have two patients on the program at any time, unless the doctor is treating over 60 patients with opiate addictions, then the doctor can have three.

Application Process: The doctor/doctor's office should call for an enrollment form. The enrollment form is faxed out. The completed application can be faxed or mailed back. The doctor is notified of acceptance or denial.

Application Requirements: The doctor must fill out a section and sign the application. The patient must fill out a section, sign the application and attach proof of income.

Program Details: Up to a 30-day supply is sent to the doctor's office. The doctor/doctor's office must contact the company to arrange refills. Every 3 months a new application is needed.
 
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