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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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^my sub doctor dispenses me valium like theres no tomorrow sometime with tramadol on top of that. mind you he's seen my mri's and x-rays and i have a good doctor/patient relationship with him.
 
I have been taking 8 to 12mg of sub a day for a week now(it is wed. night) and have taken 2 7.5/325 hydrocodones a few times durring that time period. I have taken them 2 hours before or after the sub dose. For me this time frame seems to be the right time to dodge the naloxone that is supposed to throw you into detox.
Thats just me. If worse comes to worse take another suboxone to counter the WDs, thats what I did when I payed with fent. on the subs
 
If you take any narcos you'll just be doubling back on your plan, AND you'll have w/d again.
 
Actually the ceiling dose is around 24mgs. Anything more is pretty much useless and a waste. As far as bupe goes that is a huge dose.
 
I don't really feel like explaining everything, but you guys are incorrect on a lot of things: what suboxone + another opiate after does, what the naloxone does (nothing), and what will and will not make you WD. Check the mega-sub thread or something for answers.
 
to sum it up suboxone fills your receptors up to the brim and sticks on em real real good like an opiate super glue for the brain. a few norcos or just about all other opiates cannot be absorbed by your receptors because the subox is stuck to it so well. as jc stated the naloxone is (in most cases) useless and won't have any affects whatsoever. so in conclusion:



johanneschimpo said:
suboxone + another opiate after does, what the naloxone does (nothing), and what will and will not make you WD.
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=D try using the search engine this gets covered 20x daily 8)
 
^ I barely said anything. I've probably typed out every last detail of suboxone 50 times by now. They can use the suboxone mega-thread or search for that info. Next time I type it I'll copy and save it so I can paste it later; its annoying to type the same thing over and over and over because people don't UTSE.
 
Merging this (sub + opioids WD question) into the sub thread. Save JC and the rest of us our precious time and do check out the mega threads and UTSE before making threads.

Actually wait, don't do that, then you'll put us mods out of a job...
 
yea its a contraversy where the cieling dose is, ive heard anywhere from 24 - 32 mg , every person reacts different, so the cieling dose has to have some kind of range
 
Natural said:
I just started suboxone today, my doctor made me go 24 hours without any opiates which threw me into horrible withdrawls.
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your doctor didn't do anything to "throw" you into withdrawals, he prevented you from potentially being catapulted into them... hope you know that, though.
 
I don't find any benefit in taking anymore than 8mg at once, but I do find dosing multiple times per day beneficial. Your doctor probably thinks that all patients should be able to only dose once per day. It doesn't quite work like that for most people, therefor I think he's not very smart to refuse to prescribe people larger doses of suboxone. He's probably causing some of his addicts to relapse be being stubborn and paranoid. He thinks his patients are screwing him over and selling their script and the DEA is cracking down on him. This is why I hate people who abuse treatment, but the doctor is out of line too.
 
taitpeter said:
i just got on suboxone and during a meeting with the psychiatrist said the ceiling effect of bupe is 8mg

obviously this is not true, many bluelighters of us know our bupe chemistry and know this is just a stupid statement

what should i do?

i went red in the face trying to prove to him he was wrong but he just hasn't had it


what should/can i do?!?!

this is horrrrrrrrrible

finally on bupe and getting off opioids for good and the doc is nuuuuuuuuuts:X
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Who cares if he thinks that if its not affecting you negatively? Is it affecting you negatively? If it is, find a new doctor.

What dose did he prescribe you? What was your tolerance before going on suboxone?

You wont even need more than 8mg a day anyways, so its not that big of a deal. Trying to convince him he's wrong is a waste of time. Doctors are stubborn about stuff like that.
 
Oh, if you don't even need more than 8mg per day, then arguing with your doctor is silly. Try your hardest to get on your doctor's good side. Arguing over technicalities isn't the best idea.
 
I don't give a shit what my doctor says, thats for sure. He's wrong about quite a bit, for exapmple, last visit he said: "tramadol has no opioid effects" to which I just said "oh, interesting." Why bother arguing with him? I stay on his good side so I know I can count him whenever I need anything. He can say all the stupid shit he wants; I know what and what not to believe.
 
johanneschimpo said:
I don't give a shit what my doctor says, thats for sure. He's wrong about quite a bit, for exapmple, last visit he said: "tramadol has no opioid effects" to which I just said "oh, interesting." Why bother arguing with him? I stay on his good side so I know I can count him whenever I need anything. He can say all the stupid shit he wants; I know what and what not to believe.
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right on, agreeeeeed

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Oh, if you don't even need more than 8mg per day, then arguing with your doctor is silly. Try your hardest to get on your doctor's good side. Arguing over technicalities isn't the best idea.
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right on, agreeeeeed


both of you said it awesome, thanks sonic, thanks jc

sixpartseven said:
Who cares if he thinks that if its not affecting you negatively? Is it affecting you negatively? If it is, find a new doctor.

What dose did he prescribe you? What was your tolerance before going on suboxone?

You wont even need more than 8mg a day anyways, so its not that big of a deal. Trying to convince him he's wrong is a waste of time. Doctors are stubborn about stuff like that.
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and you sir, are right as well, thanks man...ive had a pretty high tolerance to all opioids ever since i fractured my c-3 three years ago and reinjured myself this season resulting in a pinched nerve between c-5 and c-6 done skiing competitively, so oxys and the like were thrown at me non-stop, and i took them, non-stop...

he prescribed me 8mg of sub...i just wanted to hear what you guys thought about the whole situation, but i guess he's just another one of those "quacks"

i knew at the first appt. that there would be no arguing this guy, but i think ill be ok at 8mg a day, im gonna believe, im feeling a lot better

thanks guys, much appreciated support
 
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