Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

[memphis10]

my aspersion

something i learned about getting off drugs was that you're not going to get off completely and be happy about it until you WANT to. gotta hit a bottom dude. it took me about 4 years

 

[Subreflex]

Personally, I am surprised at the lack of reported recreational use of suboxone.

 

[pinpoint]

umm I really haven't had a chance to read this whole thread to see if my answer may be in here or not, but I'm going to ask anyways.
I'm on a waiting list for methadone maintenance, But it will be almost 4-5months before there is a spot open to get me in. And so now my mom found a doctor to write me a script for suboxone... I suppose my point of all this is...can someone tell me what might be better?? Ive replased twice since i left rehab, which was less then 2 weeks ago...I guess I'm just looking for some advice...I feel very lost at this point... thank you

you will be thanking me down the road if i tell you to go with suboxone, so that's what i shall do. suboxone is quite effective keeping you 'on track' and away from other opiates. if you do decide to relapse, the suboxone will keep you from feeling the 'high' you are expecting. this is a GOOD thing if you are serious about getting off street opiates.

remember that when it comes to tolerances:

with methadone, the sky's the limit.

with suboxone, 32mg's is the limit.

stick with suboxone, trust us.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Personally, I am surprised at the lack of reported recreational use of suboxone.

Thats probably because most of the people talking about it are hardcore junkies; there is no recreational use of suboxone for them.
No matter how much I take, 4mg or 24mg, it feels the same. Thats the beauty of it.

 

[garuda]

Do CYP450 3A4 inhibitors potentiate sub?

Like cimetidine?

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

Thats probably because most of the people talking about it are hardcore junkies; there is no recreational use of suboxone for them.
No matter how much I take, 4mg or 24mg, it feels the same. Thats the beauty of it.

i dont find it recreational at all, dont know why its so popular in europe (especially france) as a recreational drug (mainly IV'd) just don't understand that, and how it's used as a painkiller in hospitals (IV dosed at 0.2-3mg i think). for me its not recreational at all, just a little stimulating, or very stimulating at higher doses and at higher doses (6-8mg) i get dizzy, pinpoint pupils, lightheaded, etc, but dont nod or have a body high or any opiate-like euphoria, just side effects and energy. but when i take my normal daily dose of ~0.3-0.4mg i just get the slight stimulation equal to about 4-7mg of focalin/adderall. energy and slight mood improvement...but no constipation, no increase in hunger, no body high or pain relief at all, sometimes pain is worse (especially headaches)

 

[fukhed14]

ive grown to love this med. it's a LOT like crap heroin, but its treated me right. the best way to do it is to do one right in the nose, snorting just mildly enough to fill the nasal passage, essentially breathing it in, not snorting it really... then you take a break, and finish the pill when your nostril can take more.

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

ive grown to love this med. it's a LOT like crap heroin, but its treated me right. the best way to do it is to do one right in the nose, snorting just mildly enough to fill the nasal passage, essentially breathing it in, not snorting it really... then you take a break, and finish the pill when your nostril can take more.

what dose do you take?

 

[Missykins]

I've never heard of any regular tests or even non-standard tests that test for bupe. Unless you get one that tests specifically for it or a toxicology test that tests for all known drugs

There are "urine dip" tests which detect Suboxone when previously chromatography was required. My doctor screens me for bupe to make sure that I am taking my meds.

 

[lib.sOCialist]

I have a friend who has been trying to kick a pretty bad opie habit with no success. He and I were both wondering if you could get on Suboxone maintenance if you were not 18? He is 17 and is truly trying to get clean. Thnks in advance.

cheers, adam

 

[garuda]

Do grapefruit juice and cimetidine potentiate buprenorphine?

 

[shamus]

Yes, they're both 3A4 inhibitors.



I've got a couple of Bupe Patches. They last 7 days & release 100mcg an hour. What's the best way of using these?

eg. Can I chop em up & use them sublingually?

 

[Subreflex]

Yes, they're both 3A4 inhibitors.



I've got a couple of Bupe Patches. They last 7 days & release 100mcg an hour. What's the best way of using these?

eg. Can I chop em up & use them sublingually?

I was looking at the cyp450 interactions chart (specifically the cyp34a section)

I saw Fluoxitine, and quinine under the list of inhibitors, which means potentiating correct? Also I saw st johns wort under inducers, what does that mean?


Also, how much of each of these substances would need to be ingested for maximum potentiation?

The reason i'm asking is because these are the things I have on hand.

 

[shamus]

I was looking at the cyp450 interactions chart (specifically the cyp34a section)

I saw Fluoxitine, and quinine under the list of inhibitors, which means potentiating correct? Also I saw st johns wort under inducers, what does that mean?


Also, how much of each of these substances would need to be ingested for maximum potentiation?

The reason i'm asking is because these are the things I have on hand.

Please don't try & potentiate drugs with antidepressants (they do enough to your brain as it is), quinine might work but I don't think very well (unsure as to what effects it has, might wanna look that up).

An inducer would induce the enzyme that metabolises your bupe, so it's counteractive if you wanna get high.

 

[phatass]

I have a friend who has been trying to kick a pretty bad opie habit with no success. He and I were both wondering if you could get on Suboxone maintenance if you were not 18? He is 17 and is truly trying to get clean. Thnks in advance.

cheers, adam

he'll probably need parental conscent... i think

 

[Subreflex]

Please don't try & potentiate drugs with antidepressants (they do enough to your brain as it is), quinine might work but I don't think very well (unsure as to what effects it has, might wanna look that up).

An inducer would induce the enzyme that metabolises your bupe, so it's counteractive if you wanna get high.

Thanks, thats what I thought about the anti-depressant.

 

[shamus]

Thanks, thats what I thought about the anti-depressant.

No problem, I doubt it would do much either.



Anyone know anything about effective use of the patches?

 

[sixpartseven]

Please don't try & potentiate drugs with antidepressants (they do enough to your brain as it is), quinine might work but I don't think very well (unsure as to what effects it has, might wanna look that up).

An inducer would induce the enzyme that metabolises your bupe, so it's counteractive if you wanna get high.

+1

Dont take fluoxitine if you dont have to. Quinine will have very minimal effect on it also.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Anyone know anything about effective use of the patches?

They are not very common (yet?), so I don't know about the mechanism they use to get the bupe into your bloodstream. There is a thread or two about them, of you perform an advanced search you might be able to find something.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

^Methadone W/D's are far worse, Suboxone is easier to taper, not sure on price.

Eh, same old question, but at least I didn't start a new thread.

after using between 4 and 10 mgs of bupe per day (usually 6 mgs) for roughly a week........would 55-60 hours since last bupe dose be long enough to dose a full agonist without the suboxone subtracting from the high.
AT ALL, ZERO BLOCKING EFFECT.

I know 36 to 48 hours is the rule of thumb, but since theres no one answer I guess it can't hurt asking with my specifics.

just give me a yes or a no and feel free to delete my monotonous bullshit.