Can you not get 0.2/0.4mg Suboxone?
No, Suboxone comes in 8mg and 2mg pills. The idea is when you move from the 8mg to the 2mg pill, you're going to start tapering. I haven't wanted to begin tapering yet because I want to be on buprenorphine long enough to ensure I will quit heroin for good.
Breaking up doses that small must be a pain.
Actually it's not that bad at all. It's rather easy. The only "extra step" I do is separating out piles of powder, that's all. I still use a razor to chop up the powder extra fine to help prevent clogging.
I didn't see this post, i figured you had 8mg tabs and not 2mg's.
About the vial prep routine.
I've been doing this for 2 months now and it's worked flawlessly without consequence.
I do not keep the solution refrigerated and haven't had any problems. The most i've kept a solution is 15 days and I just recently started preparing 30cc's of a 2mg/ml solution which should last me 30+ days.
You should have no problem prepping even more than 4cc's in my opinion, a shot on day 1 feels the same as it does on day 15 (buprenex is an aqueous solution). I've found no information stating the buprenorphine is unstable in h20. I prep 3x10cc's with a 10cc syringe and filter it into a 30cc vial.
I use the Whatman GD/X micron filters and they seem to work the best, even with a heavy particulate solution like 2mg/ml.
I also got all my supplies from researchsupply.net for pretty cheap other than they use UPS (boooo!!). If you plan on using this for a while i highly reccommend you order everything you need at once, shipping is pretty much the same no matter the quantity.
I also have 30ml/10ml/5ml vials for various uses like travel and such.
I really believe this is even more safe and efficient than micron filtering each shot separately. I figure it costs me about ~$8 per month for supplies and potentially less once i go back to school and in proximity of an SEP.
Let me know if you have more questions.
I do have the 8mg pills. It's just that I count 1/4th of the 8mg pill as 2mg (as I've gotten the pills divided pretty accurately).
I'm a little tired, but that's probably all the questions I have. I might have more Q's after I have the $ and start researching and getting a plan/set up together. Thanks for the info, it really helped me out in deciding how I want to proceed with my taper (I will probably do this when I have the $).
me too. i can use a reasonably decent amount of morphine (80-100mg IV) and oxy (80mg+ IV or oral) and be just as happy with a dose of 2-4mg of bupe. while i do enjoy the bupe high i would take morphine or oxy over it anytime of the day. i do find the bupe high kind of dissipates rather quickly though, especially when injected but it still lasts longer than IV oxy
That's interesting.
The high for IV buprenorphine doesn't dissipate quickly for me. I rather enjoy the 3 to 4 hour duration for such a small dose. If I was IVing heroin, I would expect to redose at least 3 to 4 hours into it, if not sooner. This is why I primarily snorted dope.
I actually would choose buprenorphine over other opiates any day of the week in essence because there is no "come down" when used repetitively and responsibly. Also, I've managed to taper down to a point where I am rather comfortable with whatever WD symptoms have lingered until now, and I still get as high as I want to (whereas heroin will start to lose its touch over time, and has worse WD symptoms as you move on).
Captain H is the only person I've ever heard of that gets high from shooting bupe (and was already addicted).
To be fair, I primarily snorted heroin when I used, and I also used "just enough" to get good. I saw people binge out for a week and get just as bad as I was with it, if not much, much worse.
This, and I have been away from heroin for 10 months as of today. Within the first month or two after switching from heroin to Suboxone, I didn't get high from buprenorphine. I still had an active opiate tolerance.
