Funnily enough, that's one of the things that I noticed in this thread.
Goes both ways. I agree that body modification may not define a subculture, but the creation of acceptable terminology amongst 'those in the know' is often considered a pre-requisite for a sub-culture's existence.
This turned out to be more interesting than a 'tell me what to do' thread.
Guilty as charged, you called it.
That's more of a vocabulary anal impulse, like when people call soda "pop" and the like. Doesn't make me superior to anyone, nor was intended to I should say. If it did, I'm sorry.
Nobody is better because they use a different word. Words are more or less insubstantial anyway. Which brings us back to the main point.
We're using words to criticize a personal action.
We're assuming the role as the father figure who's wisdom is vast, who 'knows best,' and with a 'this is going to hurt me a lot more than it hurts you' sentiment.
I've only experienced joy from doing this weird thing. That's first person experience.
My only gripe was that someone said I was mutiliating myself and would regret it. My mother hasn't even said that kind of thing to me and she's as conservative as they come, and loveless as well. The only people who've ever proffered any sentiment about my ears have been people ignorant of the practice. I obliged them, explained reasoning etc with an open heart and mind. This was when I still wore jewelry. Now I don't and no one says jack shit.
We were talking about stretched lobes on females as well if memory serves,
perhaps I should have stayed out of it.
I just don't care for someone making judgements about something
I'll regret.
How could someone possibly infer
I'll regret something without knowing
me in the slightest? That was the incongruence that bothered, me and it wasn't personal. I was simply stating what I deemed to be a false assumption.
So it IS purely for appearances sake. Oooo deep. Heavy. Original.
I prefaced this by saying it was purely aesthetic.
I explained that a few times.
Why the hostility?
we can all have opinions, you know that saying about arseholes, anyway, the critical discussion can take the form of why you have made whatever decision you made. it is a critical look at one's own thought process. i have indicated the reason for my position, that it is purely aesthetic and therefore not worth the disfigurement. i was genuinely intrigued by thou who repeatedely refused to elaborate on why he thinks it is worth it, alluding to artistic merits and even some research in one post. at the end of the day, he finally conceded that it is only aesthetic.
it's pretty telling when people mask their motivations so obviously. it seemed very much like he was masking it even from himself. it was not i who was "combative" in this thread. i was merely attempting to engage to allow others to truley express themselves, but i guess that's either too difficult or unpleasant for some. the irony here is that body mods are lauded as a way of self expression, but what does it really express?
this is what i want to know.
or am i being inappropriate for having such a desire to talk? why not just lock the thread in that instance and replace replies with a poll. how interesting would that be?
I agree with this wholeheartedly.
And as to what l2r said its completely aesthetic what piercings one has or chooses to have in the Western World.
Read a few pages back vendetta boy.
I'm not harping on your urge to procreate, shove a soldiering iron up your ass, or any other PERSONAL habits you might have. This is not objective.
You can say you don't dig it, I'll respect that as I've said. But to lapse into these vapid generalizations and just plain impolite critiques of yours says more about your character than I'd hope anyone would ever generate from looking at my stupid little ears.
Do you have some history with this? You seem too mad to not be personally invested at this point, perhaps a past love? I don't know. Or maybe this is how you are, in which case, I give up. You're right. I'll regret it.
Selah.
thanks for the reply, bronson. my question was rhetoric.
i feel the same way, would love to hear about some kind of "this is what it means to me" kind of deal. if someone asked me about my comic book tattoos, my philosophy tattoos or even my shoe collection, i could go on for hours in each subject.
Some things don't mean anything.
That's a fact. My tattoos mean nothing but honest art I like on myself.
And how can you place worth on someone ELSE'S personal disfigurement in a general way? If it's your own opinion that's fine. But you keep talking about objectivity. You have a personal subjective vendetta on your hands and I wonder why you've failed to either see it and/or omit it from your claims. Strange.
If I give someone on the corner money, it means nothing.
Meaning destroys life. Life is inherently meaningless. You make your own meaning, in existential terms; and that meaning is largely private and at least; incommunicable with someone who has little to do with that person physically or intimately.
we can all have opinions, you know that saying about arseholes, anyway, the critical discussion can take the form of why you have made whatever decision you made. it is a critical look at one's own thought process. i have indicated the reason for my position, that it is purely aesthetic and therefore not worth the disfigurement. i was genuinely intrigued by thou who repeatedely refused to elaborate on why he thinks it is worth it, alluding to artistic merits and even some research in one post. at the end of the day, he finally conceded that it is only aesthetic.
it's pretty telling when people mask their motivations so obviously. it seemed very much like he was masking it even from himself. it was not i who was "combative" in this thread. i was merely attempting to engage to allow others to truley express themselves, but i guess that's either too difficult or unpleasant for some. the irony here is that body mods are lauded as a way of self expression, but what does it really express?
this is what i want to know.
or am i being inappropriate for having such a desire to talk? why not just lock the thread in that instance and replace replies with a poll. how interesting would that be?
Stop being a baby you can say whatever you like my feelings won't be hurt. Nor should you consider the friction of others in forming your ideas, as without yours mine cannot enjoy the same luxury.
I don't have motivations. I have impulses, when they happen I act. Etc. Every weird tattoo/piercing/mod procedure I've had has been spontaneous and for the thrill of the experience. I seldom considered the aftermath.
Of course this is an alien concept, most people cherish their bodies. I don't. Mine is falling apart, as is yours. I knew this, and you might know it fully soon. I don't know it fully, nor am I claiming you DON'T know yours. POINT being life is transient.
Everything is falling apart, so to speak.
I have no reasons behind any of my FREE weird tattoos that I've given myself or had other (dated a body/tattoo artists) folks to give me. We simply were bored on a wednesday night, so to speak.
I'll again quote George Carlin "sometimes things don't mean anything."
I don't believe in western values therefore nothing is everything, and vice versa, no sacred things.
If you want to have a philosophical chat about this please PM me if you're truly interested in the way I think which is the way you're input has come across. If you're not sincere, leave me alone because I don't care for catering to false charades to help people maintain face-value.
This is a thread about attractiveness on WOMEN with largening the hole in their ears.
I've tried not verily in this text to be insulting in the least, for I'm not. I just want to disperse this or resolve this in either a private matter; or a publice CIVIL matter if you insist.
we can all have opinions, you know that saying about arseholes, anyway, the critical discussion can take the form of why you have made whatever decision you made. it is a critical look at one's own thought process. i have indicated the reason for my position, that it is purely aesthetic and therefore not worth the disfigurement. i was genuinely intrigued by thou who repeatedely refused to elaborate on why he thinks it is worth it, alluding to artistic merits and even some research in one post. at the end of the day, he finally conceded that it is only aesthetic.
it's pretty telling when people mask their motivations so obviously. it seemed very much like he was masking it even from himself. it was not i who was "combative" in this thread. i was merely attempting to engage to allow others to truley express themselves, but i guess that's either too difficult or unpleasant for some. the irony here is that body mods are lauded as a way of self expression, but what does it really express?
this is what i want to know.
or am i being inappropriate for having such a desire to talk? why not just lock the thread in that instance and replace replies with a poll. how interesting would that be?
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