Strangest drugs.

[Fire&Water]

of course she's an actress

Beloved Actress Tragically Dies at 33

Marcela Alcázar Rodríguez died after she ingested Kambo, a poisonous secretion from the Amazonian giant monkey frog.

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Vice is shit after Gavin

Shane's a sellout

 

[Jnowhere]

Do you mean kambo? Where they harvest the venom from the frog and burn it into their skin to trip? That was the first one I watched. Can't say I've ever partaken and don't think it would be my cup of tea but I've seen addicts say it's changed their lives.

There was a guy on shroomery I who became a kambo practitioner years after it had helped him move past years of addiction. I think it was like a last ditch "well either this helps or I'm gonna die" kinda thing and I guess it helped.

If it was long and in South America, in the jungle,( it is a jungle, not a rain forest, all forests get rain or the trees would die). OK, how about, sand desert, whatever.

I guess: Save The Jungle, doesn't inspire tree huggers as much. Let's see them go there in 95 degree heat and 90% humidity, venous snakes, huge potentially man eating snakes, huge spider, some that are venomous, leopards, dangerous natives( like the ones in the beginning part of, Raiders of the Lost Ark, thick foliage and death and misery waiting every second and then the river with black caimans that eat people, bull sharks because they go into rivers to give birth and can live in fresh water, and usually stay till they are big enough to handle themselves against other sharks. And the huge females that go there to give birth, piranhas, ect.

 

[golego55]

Do you mean kambo? Where they harvest the venom from the frog and burn it into their skin to trip? That was the first one I watched. Can't say I've ever partaken and don't think it would be my cup of tea but I've seen addicts say it's changed their lives.

There was a guy on shroomery I who became a kambo practitioner years after it had helped him move past years of addiction. I think it was like a last ditch "well either this helps or I'm gonna die" kinda thing and I guess it helped.

Out of nowhere really, but have you heard of Captagon? It's been in the news recently, and I'd read that in previous decades it had been in the U.S. for a time.

 

[Esperighanto]

Out of nowhere really, but have you heard of Captagon? It's been in the news recently, and I'd read that in previous decades it had been in the U.S. for a time.

I've never heard of it in the US, it's more of a Europe/Middle East thing as far as I'm aware. It's a prodrug of amphetamine, isn't it? I suppose though, we also thought that clobenzorex was just an amphetamine prodrug for a LONG time before realizing that there's dramatically more to it.

Referring to OP's question though, in my opinion, the strangest effects have come from:

• DXM, especially alongside the NDRI/enzyme inhibitor Bupropion.
• Harmala alkaloids such as harmaline, harmine and tetrahydroharmine.
• Salvia divinorum and Coleus blumeii, specific Coleus cultivars moreso than Salvia divinorum for sure.
• Z-drugs.
• Some (but not all) N-benzylated phenethylamines.
• The non-traditional "false peyotes" such as Lophophora fricii and Lophophora diffusa.
• The combination of carisoprodol + serotonergic psychedelics.
• Bromonordiazepam (aka desalkylgidazepam) when compared to other benzos.
• 3-HO-PCP relative to other arylcyclohexylamines I've tried, but that's only ~8 unique substances so far.

I don't know how safe a ton of these aforementioned things are in the above list, but they're things I've experienced and found profoundly unique.

 

[bigjackaal96]

Datura/DPH should be seen as Deliriant Psychdelics since they act like D2/D1 agonists through being anticholinergic.

 

[daturetard]

Datura isn't special. It makes you fucked up like benedryl with worse dry mouth and its just dirtier. Bad headache, and you're convinced of whatever comes to mind. Not very visual.. though I don't get visuals from much of anything.

I haven't seen benzydamine mentioned though I haven't read this all the way. It's a common ingredient in mouthwash and vaginal douches. It has deleriant, cannabinergic, and stimulant properties. It is reinforcing (makes 'better' or more desirable) for coke, opioids, weed, and psychedelics in clinical trials on animals. I don't know about drinking douche juice but it sounds interesting.

Iboga, and that kambo stuff are probably the craziest natural ones I know of. Salvia doesn't touch them I don't think, well, maybe absurd doses.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Out of nowhere really, but have you heard of Captagon? It's been in the news recently, and I'd read that in previous decades it had been in the U.S. for a time.

I saw something in the news about that this morning. Something to do with Syrian rebels using it to fund their operations. It's kind of like amphetamine right?

Edit: there's the article

What will happen to Syria's £4.5bn drug empire now?

As those in the lucrative Captagon network move aside, how will the new leaders stop any criminals waiting in the wings to replace them?

www.bbc.com

 

[golego55]

I saw something in the news about that this morning. Something to do with Syrian rebels using it to fund their operations. It's kind of like amphetamine right?

I think so. It's interesting to read about the drugs used during war-times. I've always been interested in Berserkers, for some reason.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

"Gosh this salvia is strange, how unexpected and surprising"

Literally no one ever, except this guy

Salvia and dissos in general is probably the 'correct' answer to OPs question though, if you want strange that's where to look. And deliriants as well I guess.

Salvia & disso s comparing is ridiculous, Salvia is levels above in intensity.

A outworld experience you can t preper for, or easy endure like the baddest disso on the block

 

[LucidSDreamr]

something like a dissociative psychedelic opiate.

Tapentadol is the answer to this question if we are limiting to single drugs and not combos

I’m interested to find out what pharmacological action of tapentadol causes both mushroom like visuals (walls and objects breathing and colored changes and patterns showing up) and its meth like visuals (shadow ppl). Probably the NRI for the latter; no idea what makes it cause psychedelic like visuals

The drug is also a semi powerful opioid

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Salvia & disso s comparing is ridiculous, Salvia is levels above in intensity.

A outworld experience you can t preper for, or easy endure like the baddest disso on the block

Yeah I guess. They both broke time and space but in a different way.

 

[daturetard]

What's the strangest drug you've ever found on the internet ? And I don't just mean analogs. I'm talking about something like a dissociative psychedelic opiate. Have you ever found anything like that ?

Psychotria colorata you mean? Why ya gotta gatekeep drugs man

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

Definitely not the strangest, but compared to all other psychedelics I've tried, 2C-P felt very strange.

The comeup lasts so damn long & is characterized by a very heavy body load.
The visuals were very mysterious.

A low dose produced less of a trip but the same heavily unpleasent bodyload.

It's also the only drug to ever put my in a hospital.
Not because I was in real danger, I just stupidly snorted it for the first time in a bad set (I wanted to go to nature before it kicks in). It instantly kicked & I had a panic attack & no benzo on hand.
Just wanted them to give me some Diazepam. Instead I had to deal with uninformed paramedics who judged me & got strapped in the ambulance car (which was scary as fuck).

When I arrived in the hospital, the anxiety went away pretty quickly & I actually had an enjoyable trip.

I was 17 at the time.
I'll never forget how the paramedic angrily answered: "So something like meth???" to me saying I took a psychedelic phenethylamine similar to mescaline.
He also rolled an old guy in a wheelchair next to my bed, who had something like Parkinson's, whispering into my ear: "That's what happens if you take too much meth."

Wtf, dude.

All in all still an interesting compound, but definitely not something for inexperienced users.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Yeah I guess. They both broke time and space but in a different way.

They both break laws of physics for sure, mentally.

Gravity, dimension, self of sense. Lots of similarities.
One difference ime Salvia is non recreational 100 %.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Definitely not the strangest, but compared to all other psychedelics I've tried, 2C-P felt very strange.

The comeup lasts so damn long & is characterized by a very heavy body load.
The visuals were very mysterious.

A low dose produced less of a trip but the same heavily unpleasent bodyload.

It's also the only drug to ever put my in a hospital.
Not because I was in real danger, I just stupidly snorted it for the first time in a bad set (I wanted to go to nature before it kicks in). It instantly kicked & I had a panic attack & no benzo on hand.
Just wanted them to give me some Diazepam. Instead I had to deal with uninformed paramedics who judged me & got strapped in the ambulance car (which was scary as fuck).

When I arrived in the hospital, the anxiety went away pretty quickly & I actually had an enjoyable trip.

I was 17 at the time.
I'll never forget how the paramedic angrily answered: "So something like meth???" to me saying I took a psychedelic phenethylamine similar to mescaline.
He also rolled an old guy in a wheelchair next to my bed, who had something like Parkinson's, whispering into my ear: "That's what happens if you take too much meth."

Wtf, dude.

All in all still an interesting compound, but definitely not something for inexperienced users.

This is akin a lot to my 2C-B experiences, which unlike disso s.
Are no guarantee Euphoria.
They are trips and unpredictable, and while 10 mg 2C-B feels so nice,
controllable, add 5 mg and it gets weird, not in your face but sneaky.
A steap curve.

Which imo makes 2C more heavy psychedelics as Lysergics.
Add the anxiety and body load they are accompanied by.

 

[CavernsoftheMind]

This is akin a lot to my 2C-B experiences, which unlike disso s.
Are no guarantee Euphoria.
They are trips and unpredictable, and while 10 mg 2C-B feels so nice,
controllable, add 5 mg and it gets weird, not in your face but sneaky.
A steap curve.

Which imo makes 2C more heavy psychedelics as Lysergics.
Add the anxiety and body load they are accompanied by.

2C-B was pretty easy to handle for me so far. I really wanna revisit that, it's been a long time.
2C-B-FLY a bit more unpredictable with a lot more bodyload.
2C-P was the most difficult by far.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

2C-B was pretty easy to handle for me so far. I really wanna revisit that, it's been a long time.
2C-B-FLY a bit more unpredictable with a lot more bodyload.
2C-P was the most difficult by far.

After 2C-T2, 2C-B indeed was the easy one of the family.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

One difference ime Salvia is non recreational 100 %.

I have had 'fun' on salvia, well more uncontrollable hysterics I guess, but that's lower doses and I'd call it a fluke.

Yeah salvia is about as weird as it gets really. Weird weird drug. I doubt I'll ever take it again. Once you know what it's like I don't think there's much to draw many people back too. It's not usually fun and it's so weird and unhinged they it's virtually impossible to learn anything from.

I have had one genuine moment of clarity on salvia, like "I completely understand the universe" clear, but it was fleeting.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I have had 'fun' on salvia, well more uncontrollable hysterics I guess, but that's lower doses and I'd call it a fluke.

Yeah salvia is about as weird as it gets really. Weird weird drug. I doubt I'll ever take it again. Once you know what it's like I don't think there's much to draw many people back too. It's not usually fun and it's so weird and unhinged they it's virtually impossible to learn anything from.

I have had one genuine moment of clarity on salvia, like "I completely understand the universe" clear, but it was fleeting.

Just glad that i didn t shit or pissed myself during.

And its a worthwhile experience to now how a 2D world feels.
Glued to the carpet metal foot of my table through my leg.

The effect of jerking up gravity force, no fun.
Till i regained myself.

 

[bigjackaal96]

Tapentadol is the answer to this question if we are limiting to single drugs and not combos

I’m interested to find out what pharmacological action of tapentadol causes both mushroom like visuals (walls and objects breathing and colored changes and patterns showing up) and its meth like visuals (shadow ppl). Probably the NRI for the latter; no idea what makes it cause psychedelic like visuals

The drug is also a semi powerful opioid

It a SNRI at high doses.

I have had 'fun' on salvia, well more uncontrollable hysterics I guess, but that's lower doses and I'd call it a fluke.

Yeah salvia is about as weird as it gets really. Weird weird drug. I doubt I'll ever take it again. Once you know what it's like I don't think there's much to draw many people back too. It's not usually fun and it's so weird and unhinged they it's virtually impossible to learn anything from.

I have had one genuine moment of clarity on salvia, like "I completely understand the universe" clear, but it was fleeting.

Salvia Is a D2 antagonist from turning into Dynorphin A, Ibogaine only agonzies KOR which seems to actually produce Euphoria/mania. LSD at 2.5mg or Shrooms at 20 ~ 40g can do the same thing.

DXM & DPH I would argue Is weirder since It produces effects that aren't seen when taken seprately. I view It could be from that in a Psychotic brain both NMDA & M1 are hypoactive, But your brain Is running on serotonin which could explain the more strange effects.