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Stop bashing cops

I hate when they follow you home and dont pull u over til u get like 2 houses away then dont get you for NOTHING but harass u the whole time

I know what youre sayin Kid, w/"Not all cops are bad though but most are kind strange for me"

even if they aint bein piggy they got bad attitudes

im so used to gettin fucked with tho that once in a while when theres one somewhere that aint bein a dick i still feel like....bad voodoo

liek the other day i was gettin some chinese food and muthafucka walks in all nonchalant style like i cant see the blue and yellow and lil pig hat LOL....i had mad shit on me and i was def. on the high side so i was just chillin but on the way out he said somethin to me and laughed like he was tryina be cool or somethin....dont know what he said but it def. wadnt nothin bad
still fucked with me though like....
dont talk to me piggy
 
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Yeah of the few things that wierd me out, like you know for sure they have it in for you without thinking too hard about it. I mean it is pretty obvious and they've got the guns and cuffs. They do what they want. Man they are wierd as any brainwashed people are that I see around me daily. You like chinese food too huh? I love to sit in and have them make it on one of those stoves in front of me. It tastes so good.
 
lacey k said:

im so used to gettin fucked with tho that once in a while when theres one somewhere that aint bein a dick i still feel like....bad voodoo

liek the other day i was gettin some chinese food and muthafucka walks in all nonchalant style like i cant see the blue and yellow and lil pig hat LOL....i had mad shit on me and i was def. on the high side so i was just chillin but on the way out he said somethin to me and laughed like he was tryina be cool or somethin....dont know what he said but it def. wadnt nothin bad
still fucked with me though like....
dont talk to me piggy
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He was probably just trying to help out the image of cops.

I haven't read this thread indepth but I think it is interesting that it reverted back into the other thread where I first got the idea (i based it on a thread bashing people who don't follow thier own culture and for a peroid this thread was like that from what I glimpsed)
 
I am really just saying,

turn the other cheek/do the Gandhi type thing.

Win using peace

violence is never good

and other general hippy-esc terms

Maybe it will hard for them to be mean to nice kind people who treat them with respect. If this happened both sides are happy.
 
^^^yeah... that is the way to handle it. Just sit back and let the capitalist elite dominate nearly every aspect of your life, but be sure to do it with a smile on your face. Thank the cops for pushing christian and corporate values on you with their guns and handcuffs. Thanks them for being ignorant enough to think that they are helping society, instead of realizing that their main function is to repress the middle and lower class. Next time i see a cop, I'm going to drop to my knees and suck his dick, just to show him how much i appreciate his support for mass exploitation.

You are a fucking "uncle Tom." Though it isn't your fault for not realizing the full implications of an armed police force, you should at least read the thread before posting such an ignorant, self endangering, christian/capitalist propaganda infested statement.

Cops are the problem. And if they aren't to blame, then it's stupid complacent people like you who are to blame.

fucking police state minions


you're right, violence is never good. But the last time i checked, the cops were the ones with the guns and night sticks.
 
bleedingheartcommie said:




Cops are the problem. And if they aren't to blame, then it's stupid complacent people like you who are to blame.

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yep. i fuckin hate complacent people in this department. it's like they think it doesn't directly affect them, or they dont' care so who gives a fuck. sometimes i'll talk to my mom about how shitty it is in jail. how you got people in your face sayin shit like "boy you got cum in your ears? can't you fuckin hear what i'm sayin. stop sucking dick" blahblah> and talk about WHY so many people hate cops, and how all i heard was niggas wanting to kill them cuz they talked down and beat them up etc.

my mom just says some stupid shit like "it isnt' supposed to be fun or well don't end up there then" and i just prempt her now and say "well just because it doesn't affect you doesn't make it RIGHT" and she never has anything to say.

this seems to be the general attitude in society. it doesn't happen to them, and jails/prisons are places to put "bad" people and it's a punishment so anything bad that happens is okay. i don't think these people even comphrehend how shitty it feels to be put in a situation like that and treated such a way by police. i think a lot of them halfway think it's all made up and it doesn't REALLY happen or it's not widespread at all since it sounds SO horrible and nasty they can't imagine it happening all the time.

ugh. I HATE POLICE. the more dead cops the better. drop your badege and gun and get in my face again... yeah that's what i thought 8)
 
lacey k said:
I hate when they follow you home and dont pull u over til u get like 2 houses away then dont get you for NOTHING but harass u the whole time

I know what youre sayin Kid, w/"Not all cops are bad though but most are kind strange for me"

even if they aint bein piggy they got bad attitudes

im so used to gettin fucked with tho that once in a while when theres one somewhere that aint bein a dick i still feel like....bad voodoo

liek the other day i was gettin some chinese food and muthafucka walks in all nonchalant style like i cant see the blue and yellow and lil pig hat LOL....i had mad shit on me and i was def. on the high side so i was just chillin but on the way out he said somethin to me and laughed like he was tryina be cool or somethin....dont know what he said but it def. wadnt nothin bad
still fucked with me though like....
dont talk to me piggy
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I feel ya. I could be in the best mood in the entire world at work, and a cop will walk in and it immediatly sours. I can't help but halfway mean mug whoever it is out the corner of my eye watchin them strut around. It's not hard to tell that ALL cops have a little extra bounce in their step due to the badge on their chest and the visible gun on their waste. thinkin they are untouchable and above retaliation and retribution cuz they ARE the law. i just want to smash a chair over their grinnin faces and stomp the fuck out of them til they cry and beg me to stop. i can't help it, this is the way i feel verytime I see a cop. even if they are nice as fuck to me, i still can't stand to look at them full on or be genuinely nice.
 
Right then. I'll leave some of the edits visible so that Intoxikate may see that I am actually doing stuff in here 8) (ordinarily a split leaves no trace. And i may have missed a couple, i'll clean (split) the rest later today when i have more time to read everything :))

Warnings will be given to anyone who continues this flippant discussion about how someone speaks, what words they use, or their grammar.

this applies to the pro-Lacey k camp as well as to the anti-lacey k encampment.

get it. got it? good.
 
bleedingheartcommie said:
You are a fucking "uncle Tom." Though it isn't your fault for not realizing the full implications of an armed police force, you should at least read the thread before posting such an ignorant, self endangering, christian/capitalist propaganda infested statement.
fucking police state minions
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I find it ironic that you dismiss pacifism while in your profile you mention an interest in eastern philosophy. And unless its sarcastic, the fact that you have commie in your name but attack me as being pro-police state. Your comment on capitalism seems to support that you favor communism

the drug trade is the most capitalist trade on the planet, no government intervention (to regulate, IE take someone to court who has ripped you off) and people are free to do what ever they want to make the most profit. The soul of capitalism.
 
yepyepwoah said:
thinkin they are untouchable and above retaliation and retribution cuz they ARE the law. i just want to smash a chair over their grinnin faces and stomp the fuck out of them til they cry and beg me to stop.
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oh snaps
 
Surprisingly, there have been some good points made in the last few posts (I say this not in a condescending way, it's just that there has been so many personal attacks and less discussion of the topic lately-- or at least repetition of previous statements, ad nauseum).

Certainly, yepyepwoah and bleedingheartcommie have a valid point. These issues tend to become merely theoretical or trivialized to people who have never had horrible experiences with cops. Now, I may not agree with how they state their observations, but I have to admit that the problem of police brutality just doesn't seem as urgent an issue to those who have not been abused (at least once) by an officer. Get the shit kicked out of you once without provocation, get humiliated in front of family or friends for no reason other than you look a certain way or are in the "wrong" place at the wrong time, or have someone close to you (or you) locked-up due to an undocumented violation of your 4th amendment rights (unlawful search & seizure) then, subsequently, beaten and raped in prison by both inmates and officers, and your opinion will change. How can it not?

slyvan wanderer, I hear you. I can't advocate violence to counteract violence, I'd just be lowering myself to the level of corrupt police. There are, however, ways to seek justice. Study the great dissentors of history-- adopt their techniques accordingly.
 
slyvan wanderer said:
I find it ironic that you dismiss pacifism while in your profile you mention an interest in eastern philosophy. And unless its sarcastic, the fact that you have commie in your name but attack me as being pro-police state. Your comment on capitalism seems to support that you favor communism

the drug trade is the most capitalist trade on the planet, no government intervention (to regulate, IE take someone to court who has ripped you off) and people are free to do what ever they want to make the most profit. The soul of capitalism.
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I never dismissed pacifism. I dismissed not rebelling against police control. Communism is the absence of a government. Not the total control of a government. I suggest you read up on the subject before making such ignorant statements.

and if you think that the dea isn't supplying and importing much of the USA's cocain, and if you think that big governments are not profiting on global drug trade, then you are mistaken. I never said that i supported the capitalist style of drug distribution in the first place.

You have yet to make a valid point...8)
 
bleedingheartcommie said:
Communism is the absence of a government. Not the total control of a government.

and if you think that the dea isn't supplying and importing much of the USA's cocain,

I never said that i supported the capitalist style of drug distribution in the first place.
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Anarchy is no government. Communism is an economic system that needs a government in order to run it. You need a government to run co-ops. And the like, but I will say I have not read the manifesto. I have never heard anyone else before describe communism as a lack of government. I have always heard it referred in the exact opposite. The phrase it self "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Hints that cooperation needs to take place and if a country is to have communism than there needs to be organization, thus a government. Communism without a governement would only work on a small scale and thus no government at all (anarchism) and it would be based on a barter system. Common sense dictates that thugs would band together and then good people would band together in defense and poof the beginnings of governments are to be found. You may be able to explain how communism is the absence of government, but I can't figure it out. I haven't heard such a thing. I would accually be interested to be referred to a site or book or something, because its a new and novel thought to me, anyways...

I doubt the DEA brings in much of the cocaine. But, I don't know what particular conspiracy theory you are referring too so I can't say anymore.
I have researched this topic and unless the numerous articles and books I have read are false and government propaganda, cocaine is distributed throughout the world from organized gangs in Colombia.


True, you never said you supported the drug distribution system.


From what I have been taught pacifism is in your mind as well. And I wasn't clear I meant pacifism. I am not telling people to rat people out or too not use drugs. I am saying use drugs and respect cops. That is a form of protest. Thoreau did it (taxes). Gandhi did it (salt march). MLK Jr. did it (sit-ins, etc).

Specificially, I meant to treat cops kindly to their face and to not spread hate (verbal violence) about them. The drug culture's hatred towards cops fuels there hatred toward the drug culture.
 
Awwwww....no more hatin allowed? this threads so boring now ;)
Just playin.

Yepyepwhoah im def. feelin you on the shit youre speakin.

Its hard to keep talkin in this thread tho honestly because theres some ppl that just DONT FUCKIN GET IT, when people say shit like turn the other cheek it just makes me shake my head

the ones who never been through shit dont see the other side man
whether its locked up, harassed, beat, ridiculed, fucked with, and all that shit.
also theres a huge bias from ppl who dont know what being poor is like too who really dont comprehend how different it is btween u and the po po just by class

it aint even a debate of points anymore its 2 different life experiences and mindsets - that shit aint gonna change

maybe i should say
thats just the way it is......

8(
 
lacey k said:
Awwwww....no more hatin allowed? this threads so boring now ;)
Just playin.
Yepyepwhoah im def. feelin you on the shit youre speakin.
Its hard to keep talkin in this thread tho honestly because theres some ppl that just DONT FUCKIN GET IT, when people say shit like turn the other cheek it just makes me shake my head
the ones who never been through shit dont see the other side man
whether its locked up, harassed, beat, ridiculed, fucked with, and all that shit.
also theres a huge bias from ppl who dont know what being poor is like too who really dont comprehend how different it is btween u and the po po just by class
it aint even a debate of points anymore its 2 different life experiences and mindsets - that shit aint gonna change
maybe i should say
thats just the way it is......
8(
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I agree and like Bleedingheart's other posts that I have read, I figure this is more of an debate than argument.

But, I think your right. I haven't had to deal with cops before so I have no emotional bias. I was meerly speaking in a philosophical/political sense trying to think of a way to overcome and make people think above their personal biases. I mean, even the FLower children weren't fans of the cops.
 
I could write a few books on the subject, and there are already hundreds out there. If you are serious about reading some good marxist article, PM me and I will send you some.

Communism is "anarchy." It just isn't called that because of the negative connotation. It is an organized economic system without the aid of government. there are many economic models that work without the aid of gov't or any sort of incentive system.

It is propaganda to say that communism only works in small groups. Humanity hasn't been at the mercy of industry or agriculture long enough to perfect it on a large scale yet. Before the agricultural revolution, all off humanity lived in egalitarian (communist) society for nearly 3 million years.

What you said about crime rising up and forming gov't is half right. Yes nearly all gov't originated from organized crime. But ALL gov't came out of a rising second class which created class struggle. This class conflict is the cause for crime. After the revolution in Cuba, social stratification was almost eliminated, and as a result almost all crime was gone too. Once everyone can fulfil their basic needs, and there is no class difference, then there really is little to no reason to steal or harm others.

Communism is the absence of a government. You have been taught the opposite because the industrial nations can't very well exploit you if you see what a good idea it is. You have been trained to think that communism is strong gov't control by nations that want to keep you in the dark.

I agree that you shouldn't just shout at cops. But there comes a time when the powers that be have far too much control. That time is here, and the time to revolt is almost upon us.

revolution tends to happen when there is the means to provide people with basic need, but the needs are not being met for some reason. When there is food in the stores, but no one can afford to eat, then it is the time to overthrow. That time is very close.


You see, It's all bases on this illusion that has been beaten into your head. "man has the (GOd Given) right to own property" No one should own the earth or anything on it. Once material goods become public rather than private property, then people will be set free from the ownership of governments and economic systems.
 
I took a look at a cop this morning on the way to college and something hit me. How many cops have been to college or just went to a joint vocational school instead or a police adacemy? Think of how your mind set was on graduate or during highschool or how easily some people's minds were to flex and they find the perfect moment for the government to have you under their control.

I noticed a lot of the kids that were in special classes in my school were turning out to be cops and no offense to any of them but think about how easily the could be controlled or manipulated like the army does as well to make you feel good about oyurself or invincable or basically feel nice about being a prick to people and killing people. They are fooled into thinking the things they are doing are right or good when they really aren't. I've known some of these people and I know it's capable of happening to them. What kind of people are really turning into cops here? What kind of education or mental exploration are these people having? Can they think for themselves or let books and other brainwashed people or the government think for them or pay them off to think for them?
 
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