Jakeperson
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I have never seen any one have a bad trip their first time, on any dose, on any psych. I think you could be right. That being said I'm sure it can happen.
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Some advice on tripping
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I have never seen any one have a bad trip their first time, on any dose, on any psych. I think you could be right. That being said I'm sure it can happen.
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ I have seen people have bad first trips, and every one of them was fucking ugly...
I definately agree that being familiar with the psychedelic experience can at times cause greater feelings of anxiety as you feel a strong high coming on than if you didn't know what to expect, but I still believe that one is better equipped to deal with this anxiety if they have some solid experience using psychedelics.
I have never used DMT myself, but based on everything I have read and been told I would not reccomend it to somebody who has never even tripped properly on acid. The dude has forever to try DMT, why rush out to do it before he can even source some half decent acid.
I definately agree that being familiar with the psychedelic experience can at times cause greater feelings of anxiety as you feel a strong high coming on than if you didn't know what to expect, but I still believe that one is better equipped to deal with this anxiety if they have some solid experience using psychedelics.
I have never used DMT myself, but based on everything I have read and been told I would not reccomend it to somebody who has never even tripped properly on acid. The dude has forever to try DMT, why rush out to do it before he can even source some half decent acid.
When I was into any and all substances I was on no medication at the time.
LOL, they can't help the way they look.
Mr Blonde
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^ lofl.
But I agree with every thing d_m says.
But I agree with every thing d_m says.
puckboy
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We don't do drugs, officer.
I totally understand what you're saying, but honestly, nothing can prepare one for what happens after inhaling that large/breakthrough dose of DMT. It's not a matter of anything we know as real on Earth... it's something altogether different. The only thing that can prepare one for strong DMT experiences would be lower dose DMT trips IMO. Because when you're fired out of that cannon.... well.... theres alot of kinetic energy. Or thats what I was told
It's a leap of faith, smoking a breakthrough dose.... NOTHing else will help you be prepared besides the fact you are a sane human being. But I say that to emphasise that absolute intensity of it, not a drug to be fucked around with. Just my opinion as I'd taken LSD, mushrooms, MDMA etc etc before I tried DMT.... none of that shit could have prepared me.
We don't do drugs, officer.
I totally understand what you're saying, but honestly, nothing can prepare one for what happens after inhaling that large/breakthrough dose of DMT. It's not a matter of anything we know as real on Earth... it's something altogether different. The only thing that can prepare one for strong DMT experiences would be lower dose DMT trips IMO. Because when you're fired out of that cannon.... well.... theres alot of kinetic energy. Or thats what I was told
It's a leap of faith, smoking a breakthrough dose.... NOTHing else will help you be prepared besides the fact you are a sane human being. But I say that to emphasise that absolute intensity of it, not a drug to be fucked around with. Just my opinion as I'd taken LSD, mushrooms, MDMA etc etc before I tried DMT.... none of that shit could have prepared me.
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Sustanon
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I have many times and its very ugly. First of all psychedelics arnt for everyone. I know alot of people who luv it and alot who wont go near the stuff. Few mates had a bad trip on mainly shrooms 3.5g each. Long story short mates gf collapsed after she smoked a ciggie twice in a row then the ambo took them away. Had another mate arrested whilst trippn.
I could go on and on about things that i have witnessed with my very own eyes which wernt pretty. Abuse psychs and they will kick ur ass and turn against u but use them in an appropiate manner and u will be in for the most beautiful experience of ur life. I can still say that out of all the things i have done psychs especially shrooms and acid have had a positive effect on me and the most spiritual feeling i have ever felt combined with well being. Nothing beats it (cept opies) LOOOL
Anyway back to DMT, one mate was trying to break through and since then he hasnt even touched shrooms or acid and he is what u call a real psychonaut.
legal_limit
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Dmt is beautiful too. I seem to be getting a vibe here that u guys havent had that good experiences on it.
Id rather have an uncomfortable dmt trip then an uncomfortable acid trip.. because i am in so much awe on dmt that i dont have time to freak out lol.. sure theres the "do no want" that sometimes settles down, but its all over in a few minutes.. on acid the paranoia can build and build and build and then you lose ur shit while running around, haha..
Well thats just from what ive experienced anyway.
Salvia on the other hand... *euhhhh*
Id rather have an uncomfortable dmt trip then an uncomfortable acid trip.. because i am in so much awe on dmt that i dont have time to freak out lol.. sure theres the "do no want" that sometimes settles down, but its all over in a few minutes.. on acid the paranoia can build and build and build and then you lose ur shit while running around, haha..
Well thats just from what ive experienced anyway.
Salvia on the other hand... *euhhhh*
Mr Blonde
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^ They aren't saying it's not beautiful. They are just saying that the intensity of it is in a completely different league, and that messing around with it for 'fun' or to get 'fucked up' might not be such a good idea, especially if you aren't seasoned with other psychedelics.
It is a fantastic substance, but should be respected. As with anything else.
It is a fantastic substance, but should be respected. As with anything else.
puckboy
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I wrote a poem on my last LSD trip about how hopeless words are, and how a message sent through a facial expression, strange noises etc etc would often mean so much more than words ever could. Rhymed it with some stuff about the fact the words were melting off the page in front of me, therefore meaningless. The words keep slipping, slipping away.
On LSD you are mentally naked. Think I'm going to put it all together, maintaining the psychedelic-ness of it all and see if anyone thinks it's any good. Not something I'd post on this site though.
On LSD you are mentally naked. Think I'm going to put it all together, maintaining the psychedelic-ness of it all and see if anyone thinks it's any good. Not something I'd post on this site though.
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Nothing much phases/scares me(if you knew me you would know what I am talking about) so I will be trying DMT. If it does totally freak me out/scare me I promise I will tell the truth and report back with a "you guys were so right". I'm concerned not knowing much about it I might OD, though from what I have been reading here it seems like you can't OD on it ? But I really want to find some evil LSD I can trip all night on, it's just my thing. I mean I don't get cocaine, it only lasts 40mins ? And costs a fortune to boot.
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
^ Well, you won't OD and die... you may OD and be physically uncomfortable or have a really bad trip though.
Check out Erowid for doses... you might want a milligram scale.
Check out Erowid for doses... you might want a milligram scale.
But If I can't acquire it and have to try and make it how do you tell the mgs. Also what I've researched so far(Google) it says if you don't know how to smoke it properly it won't work or something like that. I will try and search here for more info but not being very PC litterate I never seem to be able to find what I'm looking for without having to read through about 100 or so posts, unless of course that's just how it is or I'm just fucken useless lol.
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
It's not that hard to smoke, might take a little practice and caution but it's not over the top difficult.
With extracting it, it is hard to tell exactly how much DMT is in there. To be safe, it's probably bes to assume that it's near pure. It won't be, but that will keep you out of trouble.
Search engine troubles? Try changing the words you are using and searching for posts instead of viewing threads.
Here is a link to the Erowid DMT page. Read up on there. That site is great, some of the trip reports are obvious bullshit though:
N,N-DMT
With extracting it, it is hard to tell exactly how much DMT is in there. To be safe, it's probably bes to assume that it's near pure. It won't be, but that will keep you out of trouble.
Search engine troubles? Try changing the words you are using and searching for posts instead of viewing threads.
Here is a link to the Erowid DMT page. Read up on there. That site is great, some of the trip reports are obvious bullshit though:
N,N-DMT
Mr_blonde thanks again for your continued help, got your PM and have looked up the link above, still going through it. I'm sure I've heard of acacia before(maidens wattle), as in very commonly. Maybe it could be bought from a nursery ? I'll have to look imto it. I've already got cacti seeds coming.
harryhighpants
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me and a few friends actually tried DMT for the first time last night and Mr Blonde is right it was fairly easy to smoke, and i can totally agree with the only thing preparing you for the breakthrough dose being smaller DMT hits. Me and my mates were told to have a few smaller ones and get the feel for it then increase as we were ready, and man when i had enough it was a mind bending experience. Very different to anything id had before and almost like all of my senses were wigging balls. Also experienced really wierd deja vu that id been in that exact position before wigging out playing Cod black ops ahah. i recomend doing it tho just be carefull how much you have and defianately recommend the mg scales
Don't ever have that thought process because it can really come back on you. I thought this once and my mind mixed with a head full of acid really punished me for the arrogance of thinking I was mentally above it. Maybe you're right, but I'm speaking from experience there. Take yourself 4 duck tabs and if you don't trip you're not human.
Mmm...you may be right. I had a very strange experience not long ago i need to ask you guys about, just have to get the time to type it up.
Now for a very important (in my opinion) and intersting update as to why I cannot trip ?? I have some liver problems (a "fatty liver"), enzime count of >550, should be <50. What I didn't know was if you have liver problems alot of drugs do NOTHING !! Apparently your liver is required to metabolise the drugs properly to in order for them to give the effect they are supposed to. This includes trips(?), MDMA and Stilnox (I took 3 (30mg) + 20mg of Diaz one night and still laid there wide awake). I didn't understand this untill I told the Doc and he explained it was because of my liver !! Fuck I'm glad I went, got to lay off the piss and have changed choleserol meds that are nicer to the liver.