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So Who Likes Benzos? Ver III: Blackouts and Amnesia

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Mr Blonde said:
I should have paid attention to some of the warnings in this thread; I've lost two months of my life to Xanax. :\
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Not meaning to preach to the converted but just watch how easily that 2 months becomes 2 years. It was 3 years for me and I detoxed in July and im still taking Valium to taper off. It's fuckin hell. Quit before its too late.
 
received some etizolaam blue babys this week.

It had been about 3-4weeks since I had any benzo. And what do ya know, blackedout the first night i got on it.

didn't even realise/feel like i had blacked out until the next day. Friend was telling me I had sent em weird uneligible txts. they asked if i was drunk or not. I think i was drunk + blacked out. Ate 4mg I think. Obviously I thought my tolerance was still there but it wasn't. Good times. checked my car in the morning, no damage has been done to it (thank buddha) The last time I blacked out on bennys was about 12months ago and lets just say I had some minor arguement with the curb on the road with my car :p
 
Yeah I see what people mean now when they say you gotta be careful as fuck with xanax. Pretty much dont remember any of yesterday (including a 3hr shift at work). Luckily I slept through most of it.

Went a bit hard Friday night then decided to smoke a joint at about 2am (knowing I had to get up to work at 9). Had had about 6mg alpraz throughout the day Friday then decided another 2mg to chase the joint would go down just fine. Guess I blacked out but somehow got myself to work on time (just). Then decided I better take another 2mg for work then another couple when I got home to chill.

Fell asleep around 1:30pm Sat and slept through until this morning. Fucking nuts. And stupid. And wasteful.

They can be fun though :)
 
I tried to see if I could find anything recreational in Oxazepam.
60mg with no tolerance.. made me tired.

Nothing else.. just drowsy.
It was 60mg minimum, might've been 75mg..

Don't remember much x)
I wish I decided to video-log that one.. I always forget to video-log arrhh.
 
everyday in the paper this week there is a new story of someone mixing benzos with alcohol or opiates and ODing
scares my poor mum :(
but no wonder everyone and their dog is prescribed benzos these days, my mate told his doc he had trouble sleeping (not getting to sleep but staying asleep) and got prescribed temaz. what the fuck even i know that isn't gonna help

also i got a speech this week and ran out of xanax, hopefully i can see my doc in time but if not im gonna take like 20mg of oxy and hope for the best D:
any tips to stay calm? (besides practise)
 
You like opiates? I assume by oxy you mean oxycodone/contin? If you had nothing at all you could cwe some codeine. That happy opiate feeling is usually pretty calming.

Re: getting prescribed temaz for sleep... why do you say it isnt gonna help? I got prescribed temaz for sleep (I was hoping for diaz) and it does work. I obviously just used them recreationally though. Tiny box of 25 last about half a week.
 
^ Temazepam does work for sleep. For those without benzodiazepine tolerance issues, it can work quite well as a sleep aid. Of course the longer you use it, the less effective it gets...
 
Yeah definitely better than nothing. Found it quite nice with codeine too.

Going to try and get another script soon.
 
^ Seems to be similar to the other charts I've seen. Those sort of charts have a reputation on here of sorts, as of course people are going to react differently to others even when using the same dose and the same benzo. It also has to be taken into account that these drugs all have differing binding profiles, and who knows which effect/s they were using to get the equivalence (anxiety relief, perhaps?).
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ I'm kind of the same as you d_m; I find some benzodiazepines will fix up hangovers from alcohol, MDMA, etc... very well....
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+1. Although the best anti-emetic (and yeah I realise benzos are actually anti-emetics, but in this sense they've got the off-label use ;) ) I've tried is Domperidone! Absolutely swear by it!
 
True, but if he can say Clonazepam instead of say Rivotril or Paxam then he knows chem names, im just confused cause Diazepam (for me) is like a warm glass of milk aka does fuck all. Clonazepam i need 20mg+ to feel anything. Fuck benzo's bleh. I could beat a meth addiction but couldn't beat Xanax, still fighting it. Fuckin seductive evil things they are.

/end rant
 
SoWhat! said:
True, but if he can say Clonazepam instead of say Rivotril or Paxam then he knows chem names, im just confused cause Diazepam (for me) is like a warm glass of milk aka does fuck all. Clonazepam i need 20mg+ to feel anything. Fuck benzo's bleh. I could beat a meth addiction but couldn't beat Xanax, still fighting it. Fuckin seductive evil things they are.

/end rant
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Bahaha, yeah I got ya bud! It was just my (failed lol) attempt at mild humour! :\ 8o 8) =D
 
pinkanga said:
How accurate do you guys reckon this table is? ...

http://www.non-benzodiazepines.org.uk/equivalents.html

Seems a little conservative to me. 1mg xanax = 20mg diazepam? Cmon....
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This chart lists .5mg of alprazolam as equivalent to 5mg of diazepam. There seems to be a discrepancy between charts on the net with some listing .5mg of alprazolam equal to 5mg diazepam and some listing it at 10mg. I have always felt that the figure is closer to 5mg, there is no way for me personally that a xanax brick feels as potent as 40mg of diazepam does to me. I feel like a xanax bar will feel a bit stronger than 20mg of diazepam, but only slightly, I always chalked it up to reaching peak plasma concentrations quicker so the same relative benzo dose feels a little bit stronger.

This is something I have noticed for years and it has always annoyed me, obviously it is subjective and is going to vary a bit between people but I would really be shocked to hear of more than a few people who felt a 2mg xanax bar felt as potent as 40mg of diazepam or even that close.
 
Ive got a pretty big tolerance to benzo's, usually have 40-50mg valium or 6mg xanax with grapefruit juice though if im anxious and need to just calm down 30mg Diazepam w/o GJ will still calm me down nicely. Yesterday my mate gave me a 2mg Rivotril(Clonazepam) and I felt really relaxed all day, was just smoking pot and chilling as we'd been out on speed and drinking the night before at a club grand opening. I know it wasnt placebo, I just couldnt believe how nice it felt. Maybe my tolerance has dropped a lot more than I realize? That would be awesome!
 
Jesus, a week of self-indulgent (yeah lets call it that) alprazolam use and fuckn hell I could hardly get up this morning. Feel so lethargic. Last thing I need when I have two psychology papers due... not to mention some kick ass games coming out (more importantly!!)

Gonna take it real easy from today. 2mg max per day and no more taking 3 or 4 mg with me to work to take periodically just to make it less boring.

Thank fuck I got a new script for dex today. Gonna need it hard.

I literally feel like I kinda understand what it feels like to have CFS(edit: CFS = chronic fatigue syndrome) or something. Shit be fucked up. Gonna force a bike and a weight session later today too if I can.

drug_mentor said:
This chart lists .5mg of alprazolam as equivalent to 5mg of diazepam.
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That seems MUCH closer to the reality. 1mg xanax = 20mg valium? No fucking way son.

I guess it is tough though as its a very subjective thing for one, and on top of that the effects can be quite different. If Im just chilling on xanax I get a real drunky type of shit going on with heavy limbs, impaired motor control and I require more effort in order to talk like a normal human.

Whereas valium I can just sit there and probably still hold a conversation pretty easily. Ill be pretty heavy in the body but it wont be as dominating as the xanax feeling. Thats not to say xanax is more euphoric (for me). Its all set and setting. I have a pretty high codeine tolerance and 10-20mg valium combined with around 200-300mg codeine can be great. But that same combo with say 2mg xanax isnt as euphoric.

The experiential qualities of both are fairly different.

So in summary (ref, 1976), maybe a comparison chart is pointless (ref, ref, ref).

(excuse my silliness, just practising for my psych papers where they freak out if you write your own fricken name and fail to cite it. Plagiarism paranoia in the day of the Internet is outta control.)
 
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Regarding the whole grape fruit juice (GFJ) potentiating benzos thing, I seem to see around here and other places mentioned rather non-nonchalantly. I.e. the implication being theres no doubts that it works and that its pretty common practise as a method for potentiating whatever benzo you happen to have at your disposal at the time.

So Im curious about the amount of GFJ that people usually consume in order to have a potentiating effect. In other words how much is needed in order for it to do its enzyme inhibiting thing.... a glass? A litre?

I just had about 500ml with 3mg xanax so I guess Ill see what if anything that does to my 3mg dose. Im guessing its probably pretty subtle though right?
 
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