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So Who Likes Benzos? Ver III: Blackouts and Amnesia
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leigh12
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puckboy: iv been on benzos over 5 years i think now . n only the last 6 or 7 months iv gained self control , n iv been thru all the hell they can provide, withdrawels, seizures n wierd out of body experiences n hallucinations that are on par with a bad trip ime etc
they can be the perfect thing for somebody and a oneway ticket to hell in a pill to others.
iv copped both edges of the sword n i still say theyv saved my life and my sanity numerous times . tho i do regret moving onto xanax when the valium was doin the job fine anyway
it depends on the benzo and the person
they can be the perfect thing for somebody and a oneway ticket to hell in a pill to others.
iv copped both edges of the sword n i still say theyv saved my life and my sanity numerous times . tho i do regret moving onto xanax when the valium was doin the job fine anyway
it depends on the benzo and the person
leigh12
Bluelighter
I didn't use to like temazepam. But over the past year I've developed more of a taste for benzodiazepines and I quite like the sedative and muscle relaxant properties of it.
in the right dose , its my fav , esp wen used to have it with codeine
was like the perfect combo
drug_FUCKED
Bluelighter
I didn't use to like temazepam. But over the past year I've developed more of a taste for benzodiazepines and I quite like the sedative and muscle relaxant properties of it.
Well i find that temazepam takes too long to peak ~3 hours then the effects rapidly drop off. But 1 of the first times i used benzos i took the whole packet temazepam and have noticed they dont work well for sleep ever since. I suppose if your not using them for sleep it might be ok. But its definitely not one of the most euphoric benzos just commonly scripted.
People often say temaz is a good mixer but not good by itself.
Anyone here tried bromaz or clobazam?
Has anyone else been scripted triazolam (halcion) before or am i the only one?
Also has anyone here ever been scripted any barbs? I love barbs a lot more than benzos these days i find them much warmer and smoother.
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leigh12
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iv tried most benzos n found temaz one of the most "euphoric" benzos out of the lot at 50mg+ doses, as far as benzo euphoria goes anyway,
pinkanga
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Just feelin a little lazy atm... (I know I could find out with a little effort)...
But just curious why a doc would prescribe xanax over diazepam (or some other benzo)... does it just come down to the anxiety level the patient presents with?
But just curious why a doc would prescribe xanax over diazepam (or some other benzo)... does it just come down to the anxiety level the patient presents with?
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
Drug FUCKED I have tried bromazepam/get a little bit scripted. Ironically enough I am on a little bit now. It comes under brand name lexotan and isn't covered by PBS. I rate it as a nice anxiolytic benzo but it is not very sedating at all ime. For someone looking for a benzo to relieve mild to moderate general anxiety and not experience much, if any, sedation and mind foggyness through their day bromazepam would be a good choice.
leigh12
Bluelighter
^^ might try that one nxt instead of goin bak to valium
do u notice u wake up feeling good ?, not high by any means, just normal , n not feeling like u need a benzo.
say how valium does, coz of the long half life .
i was on valium for awhile , then mentioned to doctor id been buying xanax off mates
and he said hed switch me over, no discussion about it really.
it sucked at first havin to pay over twenty bucks a bottle , now he justs calls for a authorisation n only have to pay jst over 5bux for 150 bars , but that
has to last me , no goin back early saying iv run out etc
wich has sorta forced me into controlling the intake and have started takin
in two x 4.5mg doses instead of one 9mg dose, wich makes it alot easier when droppin the dose each month , i should be on 8mg now but coz of recent
umm events , hes keepn me on 9mg another month
and yes it does to a degree matter on the level of anxiety or panick attacks etc , depending on the doctor
do u notice u wake up feeling good ?, not high by any means, just normal , n not feeling like u need a benzo.
say how valium does, coz of the long half life .
i was on valium for awhile , then mentioned to doctor id been buying xanax off mates
and he said hed switch me over, no discussion about it really.
it sucked at first havin to pay over twenty bucks a bottle , now he justs calls for a authorisation n only have to pay jst over 5bux for 150 bars , but that
has to last me , no goin back early saying iv run out etc
wich has sorta forced me into controlling the intake and have started takin
in two x 4.5mg doses instead of one 9mg dose, wich makes it alot easier when droppin the dose each month , i should be on 8mg now but coz of recent
umm events , hes keepn me on 9mg another month
and yes it does to a degree matter on the level of anxiety or panick attacks etc , depending on the doctor
Mr Blonde
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What you stated is most likely correct in most cases. If the patient is experiencing panic attacks fairly regularly, then alprazolam may be the optimal benzodiazepine as it acts quickly and has only a relatively short duration of action. I don't like alprazolam when combined with other drugs, but by itself I enjoy it. Dosed 1mg about forty minutes ago and am feeling very chill.
drug FUCKED said:
I don't find it takes too long to peak... maybe somewhat longer then alprazolam but not excessively long. I quite liked it by itself for the muscle relaxing properties which I quite enjoy, will try it tomorrow in combination with an opioid and see how that goes.
pinkanga
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Bout to have 2mg xan 20mins after codeine.
Still figuring out if its best to have at the same time, before or after you can just feel the codeine coming on (ie. bout 20-30mins later).
Seems to work best with diazepam waiting to after you take the codeine. So Ill guess Ill stick with that for now and try another options next time.
Still figuring out if its best to have at the same time, before or after you can just feel the codeine coming on (ie. bout 20-30mins later).
Seems to work best with diazepam waiting to after you take the codeine. So Ill guess Ill stick with that for now and try another options next time.
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
^ I think that's the best idea. Dosing it before or with seems to alter the effects in a way I don't like... particularly if the benzo is dosed first and it starts to come on before the opioid. Almost blunts the opioid effect for some reason.
leigh12
Bluelighter
id jst go with .5mg xanax with the codeine , iv found the weaker the benzo , the better it is with codeine , just from experience . 40mg dxm 45min b4 the codeine has also had positive effects many times . sumtimes another 15mg 20min after it kicks in can boost it abit more too.
it doesnt always work perfect , but when it does ull know , hopefully it dont suck u in to the world of opiates tho
it doesnt always work perfect , but when it does ull know , hopefully it dont suck u in to the world of opiates tho
pinkanga
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Already there. Love oxy when I can get 'em but thats more rare than an easter bunny sighting.
If I had access to oxy like I do codeine Id be in trouble. But I dont (most I ever had was 2 boxes of endones my mate got a work buddy to steal from a sick grandmother (who didnt need the ridiculous amount they were feeding her - trust me, I have a conscious). It was a fun 2 weeks fo sho.
Not interested in going higher up the food chain though.
If I had access to oxy like I do codeine Id be in trouble. But I dont (most I ever had was 2 boxes of endones my mate got a work buddy to steal from a sick grandmother (who didnt need the ridiculous amount they were feeding her - trust me, I have a conscious). It was a fun 2 weeks fo sho.
Not interested in going higher up the food chain though.
SpiritFolk
Bluelighter
first few times i've done dxm + cwe + xannys it was like HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very much so pronounced euphoria for like 3+hrs!!!!
pitty these days i got too much tolerance in both opi and benzos. that combo no longer really works
Hmm I'm going to give that combo a try,. zzzzzzzzzSounds like it could all gel well witht he right dose, probably wouldn't use heaps of CWE though cause lately I have found big don't seem to be worth the high with the uncomfotable feeeling i get in my stomach.
drug_FUCKED
Bluelighter
Its scripted for anxiety while valium is more for sleep.
Its harder to get scripted xanax than valium.
Temaz then valium are the most easiest to be prescribed and i believe the reason for soo many fans.
How anyone can think temazepam is more euphoric than hypnodorm is beyond me. Temaz does get a lot of fans for euphoric benzo I guess it all depends on the person and there experience with benzos.
Out of the benzos i have been scripted this is how i rate as far as euphoria goes:
Fluitnitrazpam by far the most fun, comes on fast, is strong u can snort and smoke it
Lorazepam one of my favourites at the moment
Clonazepam has great quick come on sublingualy strong long acting benzo
alprazolam great euphoria but has killa comedown withdrawal due to its strong binding short half-life.
triazolam is just crazy comes on fast but last only 1-2 hours before halcion phycosis sets in.
midazolam hard to enjoy as sedation comes on fast IV, IM and nasally gives more chance to enjoy
bromazepam pretty weak good alternative that agrees with me more than xanax
nitrazepam pretty warm smooth slow come on
oxazepam similar weakness to temaz
temazepam takes too long to come on the rapidly drops off
diazepam just doesn't work with me doesn't last very long and the metabolites dont do much either could be that i was once scripted 49 valiums a day in detox.
Also had phenazepam and delorazepam but cant recall what they were like.
I find the nitro benzos the most euphoric, the *lams have are pretty strong with quick come on and all diazepam metabolites are shit for me.
Its harder to get scripted xanax than valium.
Temaz then valium are the most easiest to be prescribed and i believe the reason for soo many fans.
How anyone can think temazepam is more euphoric than hypnodorm is beyond me. Temaz does get a lot of fans for euphoric benzo I guess it all depends on the person and there experience with benzos.
Out of the benzos i have been scripted this is how i rate as far as euphoria goes:
Fluitnitrazpam by far the most fun, comes on fast, is strong u can snort and smoke it
Lorazepam one of my favourites at the moment
Clonazepam has great quick come on sublingualy strong long acting benzo
alprazolam great euphoria but has killa comedown withdrawal due to its strong binding short half-life.
triazolam is just crazy comes on fast but last only 1-2 hours before halcion phycosis sets in.
midazolam hard to enjoy as sedation comes on fast IV, IM and nasally gives more chance to enjoy
bromazepam pretty weak good alternative that agrees with me more than xanax
nitrazepam pretty warm smooth slow come on
oxazepam similar weakness to temaz
temazepam takes too long to come on the rapidly drops off
diazepam just doesn't work with me doesn't last very long and the metabolites dont do much either could be that i was once scripted 49 valiums a day in detox.
Also had phenazepam and delorazepam but cant recall what they were like.
I find the nitro benzos the most euphoric, the *lams have are pretty strong with quick come on and all diazepam metabolites are shit for me.
SpiritFolk
Bluelighter
^^ That's a lot of benzo use man,
I have taken a alot of drugs(not benozos) and valium seems to work well for certain reason because of the half life.
and the only othee benzo i use is xanax wich can seem to conquer anythng from a LSD and I mean a strong LSD trip to a whacked out 2Cb cobos etc... Be carefully as xanxax has knocked me out opn the peak of what would have been a epic LSD eexperience. so if u need somehitng to clam on big experience just a small dose is my advice to take first.
As i find generraly psychedeliacs come in waves if beauty and then drop off enough for your mind to accept the diference between heaven and reality.
I have taken a alot of drugs(not benozos) and valium seems to work well for certain reason because of the half life.
and the only othee benzo i use is xanax wich can seem to conquer anythng from a LSD and I mean a strong LSD trip to a whacked out 2Cb cobos etc... Be carefully as xanxax has knocked me out opn the peak of what would have been a epic LSD eexperience. so if u need somehitng to clam on big experience just a small dose is my advice to take first.
As i find generraly psychedeliacs come in waves if beauty and then drop off enough for your mind to accept the diference between heaven and reality.
SpiritFolk
Bluelighter
u can smoke please it? please explain how and effects if u have time.
As I like smokings thins i.e ice, weed, DMT. But a smokable benzo sound wicked.
leigh12
Bluelighter
lol smoking benzos , thatd b interesting.
my eye spotted the word nitrazepam a cpl posts up and i almost dry reached
that shit used to give me the worst taste at back of my throat and almost made me
depressed it dulled me down that much , tho they all have theyr diff purposes n that
one obviously didnt fit mine. not saying its a poo benzo at all , for ppl who need em
theyd agree theres prob no such thing as a shit benzo when ur bouncing off the walls
with paranoia and random hate
my eye spotted the word nitrazepam a cpl posts up and i almost dry reached
that shit used to give me the worst taste at back of my throat and almost made me
depressed it dulled me down that much , tho they all have theyr diff purposes n that
one obviously didnt fit mine. not saying its a poo benzo at all , for ppl who need em
theyd agree theres prob no such thing as a shit benzo when ur bouncing off the walls
with paranoia and random hate
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