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Hiya (first off sorry if my other thread broke any rules it was not my intention to do so. I wanted to know in a harm reduction way as I've not yet tried it n do not wish to kill myself so apologise for that (sorry other thread was closed hence my apologising here!)
In relation to the question from the OP - as I am used to daily intake of 8mg suboxone (before this 7-800 codeine which equals to 7-80mg, morphine, right). What would be the safest about of Heroin to do? And I assume smoking is still the safest way?
I know there are a lot of opiates in the US - before climbing to H but I really don't think we have them here.

I cannot get dehydrocodeine etc online as close family members forced me off codeine n keep my parcents before I get them n ask me to open them in front of them. So those avenues are closed to me as I know I could have got myself some good DHC....oh well

Like I say I'm sorry that I overstepped the mark in my previous thread it was not intended.

OP - my advice to you, and I am sorry if this comes out as preachy or / hypocritical, having asked a similar question to yourself. In the intent of HR I would suggest that you do some weaker opiates first n build up your intolerence as you don't want to OD or ruin you first experience by being ill / sick

When I took my first 60mg codeine pill I felt nauseous (this is going back a few years now). I wasused to downing around 14-18 30/500 codeine/para (I loved those 30s) one intention was to obviously dull the pain of sciatica disk herniation so I could carry ondoing race4life (5k run for cancer) n other high intensive exercise to stay fit n not gain weight. A friend said to me "trouble with the tablets is you can carry on as normal which could make your issues worst" i seemed to "not hear" the "make things worst" and heard what I wanted to hear from the message "codeine will dull out the pain n I can keep physical active - do as much as possible" (my own version).

Sorry, I've gone on a bit as usual but please listen to the advice given to you. These people have taken time to help you because they care about your safety. This site is very informative, useful n the support here is ACE!!!! I have never been to a more supportive site with so much love n support as this.

When you first do it it may be an idea for you to have precautions encase you OD. We understand that you do not want to inform people of your drug use but you could find people who are also using who could be there that first few times just to make sure you are safe n who could get you to hospital if something goes wrong.

Take care n keep safe ok.

Mr.Scagnattie - thank you very much for showing me this thread. Much appreciated. I will also look at the megathread n subcribe to it.

Evey :) <3<3<3<3 xxx



From no opiate experience straight to heroin? Sorry but that just reads 'I'm a f*cking idiot'
The risks far outweigh the benefits here. If you're going to try opiates at all please start with something less potent e.g. hydrocodone, oxycodone or even codeine. Test the water.

I'm not having a go here n I do need to point something out - "...or even codeine?" When you have no opiate experience CODEINE is an incredible high.... First time I took codeine it remind me of being given diamorphine when I was giving birth....I was in HEAVEN n flying with the fairies, floating, warm, fizzy lovely relaxed n blissful euphoria. Please don't downplay codeine. When you move to stronger opiate codeine wont do that for you no more if if you have had stronger opiate n try codeine of course its going to seem weak but I got addicted to codeine 800mg a day chasing that high n personally I would suggest the OP tries that first n reads up on cold water extraction (CWE). There are places you can get codeine which is less likely to be cut but you still have to be careful as you can sometimes buy fakes n be conned.



RTrain, i hear you 100% on trying to educate friends, them saying i 'worry' too much and 'just take it, whats the worst that could happen?' just drove me on to find more facts and present it to them.
Now, because i always had the info they needed, they have started to come to me and ask me HR questions. I recently had a massive ego boost when a friend came to me with a couple of questions about the codeine he had been prescribed that day.
They were pretty simple questions about side effects and dependance and i said "didnt you ask your doctor when they prescribed it?" to which he replied "the doctor just tells me not to worry and i dont trust em, but you tell me all the facts so i feel safer".
So, a massive ego boost (with a dose of embarrassment.lol) and suddenly it was all worth it. You just got to stick at it mate, if you get through to just one person with good HR advice then it all feels worth it. :-D

mr.scagnattie, my feelings echo yours exactly. I used to browse loads of drug use related forums and felt that something was missing in each one; After finding bluelight i realized what was missing..harm reduction.
Lots of forums talk about (and glorify) drug use but only bluelight consistantly gives out solid, thoughtful advice that has helped me out numerous times.
All of us, even the seasoned drug users, are walking a dangerous line with the substances we use but with BL always there and full of great people with the best advice, ive no doubt lives are saved that would otherwise be lost to ignorance.
Sorry about the rambling post guys, i seem to be in that frame of mind tonight!lol

Quite true... I was blocked from such a forum a year back for trying to help a codeine addict. The person had liver damage n was taking 30-50, 30/500 codeine/para daily. She was a lovely lady n I had become friendly with, was deeply concerned. I tried to tell her where she could purchase codeine which was SAFER n purer also about cold water extraction. I was told NOT to mention CWE as APPARENTLY it only took the fillers away.
This woman was dying ffs n she had to take care of a family member with dementia. I would do it again too. I often wonder what happened to her n if she made it through her addiction...
 
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Actually.. nevermind.
No use in telling someone that they're mad & jealous of another person.. it will only turn out for the worse.
God, some people act like little fuckin' children... almost makes me want to stay away from BL.

Nevermind.
 
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I was advised to read this thread n have done so over the past few hours. I made some comments as i did so (please see previous). In MY opinion, this person seems to be a troll n trying to get people going. Best thing to do is not respond. You've all taken time to give out advice n it won't go to waste people of people lurking n so forth. And this advice I have also taken on board so thank you.
I am disgusted at this person mocking people who has been throughaddiction. He appears childish as if to say "haha you all but hook but I won'".
I got addicted to codeine which people love to laugh n say how it's weak, a "walk in the park" etc. it's not the physical witgdrawal that gets you it's the psychological. You have that high n THAT is when you become PSYCHOLOGICALLY addicted. You fall in love, it becomes your friend n nothing else matters. You spend every day putting as much into your body as possible n finding more, dreaming about it n when you withdrawal apart from the physical withdrawals you feel like you've grieving the love of a VERY CLOSE LOVED ONE n like your world is crashing down around you, normalty is going around you but you cant tolerate it because your 'friend' has gone. At the same time you shake, shiver, go hot n cold, get bloody goosebumps, have restless legs, can't eat, can't n when you DO sleep you dream of it, you mentally can't stop thinking of it, which is torture oh n that was codeine n if you stop it never leaves you, you want it or something stronger to get that lovely feeling again, which took away so many 'negative emotions' n the constant emptiness...

That was my experience n why I get frustrated n annyed when people say "only codeine." I'm on suboxone 8mg now.

And he says heroin is not addictive????

Take care everyone you're advice has helped someone at least.

Evey xxx
 
Hiya (first off sorry if my other thread broke any rules it was not my intention to do so. I wanted to know in a harm reduction way as I've not yet tried it n do not wish to kill myself so apologise for that (sorry other thread was closed hence my apologising here!)
In relation to the question from the OP - as I am used to daily intake of 8mg suboxone (before this 7-800 codeine which equals to 7-80mg, morphine, right). What would be the safest about of Heroin to do? And I assume smoking is still the safest way?
I know there are a lot of opiates in the US - before climbing to H but I really don't think we have them here.

I cannot get dehydrocodeine etc online as close family members forced me off codeine n keep my parcents before I get them n ask me to open them in front of them. So those avenues are closed to me as I know I could have got myself some good DHC....oh well

Like I say I'm sorry that I overstepped the mark in my previous thread it was not intended.

OP - my advice to you, and I am sorry if this comes out as preachy or / hypocritical, having asked a similar question to yourself. In the intent of HR I would suggest that you do some weaker opiates first n build up your intolerence as you don't want to OD or ruin you first experience by being ill / sick

When I took my first 60mg codeine pill I felt nauseous (this is going back a few years now). I wasused to downing around 14-18 30/500 codeine/para (I loved those 30s) one intention was to obviously dull the pain of sciatica disk herniation so I could carry ondoing race4life (5k run for cancer) n other high intensive exercise to stay fit n not gain weight. A friend said to me "trouble with the tablets is you can carry on as normal which could make your issues worst" i seemed to "not hear" the "make things worst" and heard what I wanted to hear from the message "codeine will dull out the pain n I can keep physical active - do as much as possible" (my own version).

Sorry, I've gone on a bit as usual but please listen to the advice given to you. These people have taken time to help you because they care about your safety. This site is very informative, useful n the support here is ACE!!!! I have never been to a more supportive site with so much love n support as this.

When you first do it it may be an idea for you to have precautions encase you OD. We understand that you do not want to inform people of your drug use but you could find people who are also using who could be there that first few times just to make sure you are safe n who could get you to hospital if something goes wrong.

Take care n keep safe ok.

Mr.Scagnattie - thank you very much for showing me this thread. Much appreciated. I will also look at the megathread n subcribe to it.

Evey :) <3<3<3<3 xxx





I'm not having a go here n I do need to point something out - "...or even codeine?" When you have no opiate experience CODEINE is an incredible high.... First time I took codeine it remind me of being given diamorphine when I was giving birth....I was in HEAVEN n flying with the fairies, floating, warm, fizzy lovely relaxed n blissful euphoria. Please don't downplay codeine. When you move to stronger opiate codeine wont do that for you no more if if you have had stronger opiate n try codeine of course its going to seem weak but I got addicted to codeine 800mg a day chasing that high n personally I would suggest the OP tries that first n reads up on cold water extraction (CWE). There are places you can get codeine which is less likely to be cut but you still have to be careful as you can sometimes buy fakes n be conned.





Quite true... I was blocked from such a forum a year back for trying to help a codeine addict. The person had liver damage n was taking 30-50, 30/500 codeine/para daily. She was a lovely lady n I had become friendly with, was deeply concerned. I tried to tell her where she could purchase codeine which was SAFER n purer also about cold water extraction. I was told NOT to mention CWE as APPARENTLY it only took the fillers away.
This woman was dying ffs n she had to take care of a family member with dementia. I would do it again too. I often wonder what happened to her n if she made it through her addiction...

Yeah, the 30/500 co-codamols are lovely. Im prescribed them with 30mg dhc ir and ive found mixing the two makes for a lovely buzz but i wouldnt even consider doing 30-50 a day without CWE. I cant believe that another told you not to inform people about CWE! The science is sound and works due to opiates soluability in cold water.
The way i would look at things is that you have had aa bad experience/s in the past but your in the right place now, Bluelight. :-)
 
Does it sound selfish that I can't be around anyone who takes those 30/500s? Its how my addiction started n i even had to delete someone off Facebook fot taking them for genuine reasons. I know it wasn't there their fault but I just feel jealous, angry resentful n start craving them even on suboxone. Am i wrong to feel that way because i cant help it. They had a strong power over me.
 
Ask my wife how fucked up it is to be a heroin addict....
Wait, you can't it fucking killed her.
Heroin has left me fighting every day to recover and get my soul and my life back.
Take a revolver load one round in it spin the cylinder and pull the trigger. Do that say, 6 times a day.
You are doing the same thing when you catch a mean habit cause you thought you could handle it
You wake up one day with that "oh fuck" feeling like something really bad just happened
Please think about it. Please.

Pissed....
 
My fault sorry. Was looking through some old E-mail notifications n saw the above post. Thought it deserved a reply. Hope you're ok x

No worries, it's not you. I just remember when this thread first started and it blew up so fast because everyone told the OP to stay away, and he responded with smart ass remarks about how none of us have the willpower he does. Essentially.
 
The OP had zero intention of folloelwing our advice (unless we told him what he wanted to hear i reckon).
On the other hand, this thread has some superb posts that could really useful for other users.
 
The OP had zero intention of folloelwing our advice (unless we told him what he wanted to hear i reckon).
On the other hand, this thread has some superb posts that could really useful for other users.

I 100% agree with this post xxx


No worries, it's not you. I just remember when this thread first started and it blew up so fast because everyone told the OP to stay away, and he responded with smart ass remarks about how none of us have the willpower he does. Essentially.

Yea I've read that. He think he will be sorry for the way he acted towards you all but I did assume that he was a troll trying to wind people up out of boredom. However, whether he is or not - others will benefits from this thread. Take care.
 
Anyway H makes me feel bored,gives me nausea...and i don't care for anything.Waves of heat,some puking(sometimes) and such stuff.How is H the most intense orgasm?How does it make you feel good?You just don't care.Seriously,what's all the fuss about it??
 
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