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So 4-FA....

Thanks for the info Si....

Pleasures all mine Bob, I musta tried this stuff out at least 30 or 40 times before I fucked up my brain on 5-mapb early last year & had to ease up heavilly on the serotonergic stims to avoid debilitating months long Tuesdays. Prior to that I felt that in fact 4-fa had proven itself to indeed be one of the finest stimulant outsides of MDMA, MDEA & MDA. I've had mates spit that back in my face, quite simply hating the stuff lol but many agree.

My ideal sesh was 80mg followed a couple hours later by 60mg, & ending with 40mg a further two hours later. I tended to eat very well before dosing because I found the drug to bring profound, lasting anorexia. It can be two days before my appetitie bounces back, which is not good.

Dosing on a full stomach delays & weakens the effects, so if you're a good, healthy weight, I'd advise a close-to-empty stomach. I also used to suffer extended, unwanted, post-trip stimulation which I often had to medicate against. Although this is nothing like the similar problems associated with Meph it's something to be aware of assuming it isn't unique to me.

I often used to suffer a mid-hit emotional crash, like a comedown, but not, about halfway through my ride. I was advised by a long time user of 4-fa in Other Drugs to try to eat & drink at this point, & on the odd occassions where I would eat rather than redose, the effect was the same. It's just Goddamned hard to eat anything vaguely nutritious when you're buzzing your nuts off.

Provided my redosing sessions were as above, I had no trouble extending the buzz ALL day/night. Methylone has also been used with 4-fa. I also added the psychedelics 4-ho-met & 2c-e to 4-fa to liven up the visuals & they were some very cool flip experiences! Go easy with combo's though, until you find your own sweet spots.
 
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I think it's babylonboy who gets the credit for "Tufa" but he's not here to receive it, he's been missing since his quaalude-analog experiments...
 
What do you mean monsta by 2 or 4?
To me theyre different tools for different jobs... 2fa is of veeery littkle fun to me. More like the better cup of coffee...

Regardin anorexia, for some odd reason, i dont get that any more. From any stim. I can basically eat whatever, limited only by my (indeed reduced) saliva production...
 
Regardin anorexia, for some odd reason, i dont get that any more. From any stim. I can basically eat whatever, limited only by my (indeed reduced) saliva production...

I've been noticing the same as of late. Even on MDMA I seem to be able to eat a little, which I could never do before
 
Well i did catch up on sleep, in the hospital had a fucking fit/seizure, 12 hours memory loss, was told i was gonna be going to be in for 5 days so a big fit/seizure, like my last seizures i can't remember shit.

not sure if it was down to my drinking, and the amount of pv in the last 30 days,
 
I know we have all gone a bit off topic and I really need to put something in a more correct thread (ideas?) but I had a very very nasty experience on what was meant to be 2-FA some weeks ago. In fact it shook me up so badly as soon as I felt better ( a couple of weeks ) i just blocked it from memory and the right thing to do would be to have warned others.
However I was extremely drunk and eyeballed god knows how much and then had some kind of very odd experience..which resulted in my other half wanting to call an ambulance and me deciding I would just try and throw it up while blacking out and telling him I was going to die..

That bag is in the process of being sent off for testing, I do genuinely think it wasn't what it said on the bag..my behaviour that night was stupid, my trust in a vendor to get it right without an allergy test and the fact it looked and smelt wrong and I drank best part of a litre of vodka prior..was a bit of a wake up call. We all need to be more careful..I am embarrassed about my lack of care and concern. As for the fourfa knocked that on the head too as I was dropping 3-180mg caps a night as tolerance had gone up. Time for a detox I think.
 
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the vendor i use has never done me wrong, not to say mistakes can't happen, but i weighed out 150mg, both times the hospital as put it down to drink withdrawals (even i was pissed up), they tried to tell me i didn't have a fit/seizure i know i had because your body is just fucked, then he read the ambulance report and said oh yes you did, i hate to hate on the NHS, but everything in Holland was so much faster and clearer as too what happened.

Anyway im gonna lay of the drink as much as i can, doubt ill try 4-fa again, (even tho i doubt it was the cause), i waited 4 months for an EEG, which when i finally went they didn't do and just said "oh i dunno why you had seizures.."
 
I've read on another drug forum recently about a nasty experience on 4fa that led to hospital. In that case his mate did the same amount and was fine. So it could be you had an atypical response from it. Guess the 30g of mdpv in the past month didn't help though.
 
I know we have all gone a bit off topic and I really need to put something in a more correct thread (ideas?) but I had a very very nasty experience on what was meant to be 2-FA some weeks ago. In fact it shook me up so badly as soon as I felt better ( a couple of weeks ) i just blocked it from memory and the right thing to do would be to have warned others.
However I was extremely drunk and eyeballed god knows how much and then had some kind of very odd experience..which resulted in my other half wanting to call an ambulance and me deciding I would just try and throw it up while blacking out and telling him I was going to die..

That bag is in the process of being sent off for testing, I do genuinely think it wasn't what it said on the bag..my behaviour that night was stupid, my trust in a vendor to get it right without an allergy test and the fact it looked and smelt wrong and I drank best part of a litre of vodka prior..was a bit of a wake up call. We all need to be more careful..I am embarrassed about my lack of care and concern. As for the fourfa knocked that on the head too as I was dropping 3-180mg caps a night as tolerance had gone up. Time for a detox I think.

Bugger Flo, hope you're okay. I had to skim that, shooting off to work, but I'll devote a little time to this later if I remember. Please feel free to describe the unusual effects either here or through PM.

We all need to be ALOT more careful & alot less confident in this business!
 
I will PM you Si..mostly because I am embarrassed as hell about my reckless behaviour and probably did bring it on myself to a degree HOWEVER I am curious as hell to get the test results back eventually...8)

Cousin fainted quite recently on 4-FA on her first try too...she dosed at 150mg and redosed after about 4 hours on about same amount.She is however very tall and very under weight and had had maybe 3 -4 drinks. Please all be careful.
 
Thought id give this lil bump as i just worked out while pissed i dosed at 1.5g not 150mg, im already starting to feel the 120mg i done got that kind of 4mmc come up before it hits you hard.

Jesus fuck what a mistake. weight the 10g up at 8.3g which means i did 1.5g and then 120-30mg just now.
 
So when you ended up in hosptal you had done one and a half grammes??? Sorry just having to reiterate that...dear god!

No bloody wonder.

Most I have ever done and I would not suggest this for one minute is 3 caps of aprox 180mg each spaced out over an evening. My cousin had less but 3 caps which she flicked a bit out of each as she is VERY tall and very thin...she fainted and my other half who matched me with no tolerance and had been drinking remembers nothing from that night and felt like death for days after.

Christ are you sure 1.5g????

peee esss I know it's the same old nag but due to me and others possibly and in some cases certainly being given mislabeled chems a lil tester first..oh god yes I will take my own advice from now on too.
 
Speechless.

Glad you are still with us.

You bought 10g of something you didn't now if you liked etc ..not criticizing just find that suprising. Soon as doses are so low with it it's not that re-dosable..pointless really after a 2nd dose you have enough for for for everrrrrr. I would only ever buy a 1g bag of something not trialled ...wow..my god. Did they pump your stomach? Charcoal all that stuff? Do they still do that charcoal thing?
 
Well I bet your tolerance is a little sky high atm... take it easy man... everything in moderation as they say lol
 
Without going into much detail it wasn't all for me but, i know how low the dose was but as you can see mad a major fuck up, i have no memory at all so im not sure just woke up confused as fuck thinking i was in holland again with no wallet/phone thinking how fuck am i gonna pay this time (eu health card in holland luckily), they blamed it on drink wd/s, like that did in holland, ironically i do have a 1g bag untouched, so if used that baggie i would of know something would of been up.

did say i would be in for 5 days, i just wanted to get out and have a fag haha, i learn t a lesson the hard way, so take note people
 
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