Thanks for the info Si....
Pleasures all mine Bob, I musta tried this stuff out at least 30 or 40 times before I fucked up my brain on 5-mapb early last year & had to ease up heavilly on the serotonergic stims to avoid debilitating months long Tuesdays. Prior to that I felt that in fact 4-fa had proven itself to indeed be one of the finest stimulant outsides of MDMA, MDEA & MDA. I've had mates spit that back in my face, quite simply hating the stuff lol but many agree.
My ideal sesh was 80mg followed a couple hours later by 60mg, & ending with 40mg a further two hours later. I tended to eat very well before dosing because I found the drug to bring profound, lasting anorexia. It can be two days before my appetitie bounces back, which is not good.
Dosing on a full stomach delays & weakens the effects, so if you're a good, healthy weight, I'd advise a close-to-empty stomach. I also used to suffer extended, unwanted, post-trip stimulation which I often had to medicate against. Although this is nothing like the similar problems associated with Meph it's something to be aware of assuming it isn't unique to me.
I often used to suffer a mid-hit emotional crash, like a comedown, but not, about halfway through my ride. I was advised by a long time user of 4-fa in Other Drugs to try to eat & drink at this point, & on the odd occassions where I would eat rather than redose, the effect was the same. It's just Goddamned hard to eat anything vaguely nutritious when you're buzzing your nuts off.
Provided my redosing sessions were as above, I had no trouble extending the buzz ALL day/night. Methylone has also been used with 4-fa. I also added the psychedelics 4-ho-met & 2c-e to 4-fa to liven up the visuals & they were some very cool flip experiences! Go easy with combo's though, until you find your own sweet spots.
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