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Smoking Aztec Dream Herb or Blue Lotus

Blue lotus I've only taken orally because I assumed the dose would be similar and I didn't want to smoke 15-30g of flowers in one go. Orally, I got some help falling asleep, but it was never that noticeable for me except for the time I used it to go to sleep towards the end of an acid trip. Really pretty surprised that worked at all. I've read about some good experiences from smoking lotus resin, though.
 
Neither are strong drugs. I've smoked both and they're weaker than a tobacco buzz. Mild but novel if even active.
 
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The only time I was ever truly anaesthetized by Cannabis was literally the first time I ever actually smoked it. I had a couple of older kids who wanted to fuck with me in a light-hearted way. They told me to put my lips on a a bong and to inhale as hard as I could until they said stop. I was pretty much tripping out for hours. I've never experienced that since though.

I definitely class Cannabis as related to psychedelics in terms of its effects. It is a "mind-opening" drug if you will, whereas Alcohol is a "mind-closing" drug. It's not the same as like losing touch with your ego from psychedelics or anything like that though. If you were to use enough Cannabis to actually trip like I did, I'd almost argue that you're using the drug wrong. That's a matter of opinion though.

Cannabis to me is something I do while I live my life and experience things, it's not the experience. It provides interesting new dimensions to aspects of life that could be considered stale or mundane. This is part of why I am able to use this substance even in "sobriety". It never actually removes me from myself, it just gives me some slighly different perspectives on the same picture, though that's what's awesome.
 
I've smoked a fair amount of both Calea and lotus, explored red vs pink vs white lotus, used both orally and as different varieties of extracts too. Lotus is mostly useful in the way benzos are, and it shares pharmacokinetics with them as well which is neat. Get some lotus 50x and mix a few pinches with flower in a bowl, it'll make it much more relaxing but not as foggy as an indica would be, as far as headspace goes.

Tripping on lotus is tough and in the past only occurred as a result of mixing it with harmaline. I have no idea if that's safe though so I'm not advising it until more research is done. This is a very sedative, relaxing trip akin to very clean LSA that's been extracted from HBWR.

Calea and lotus both are amazing tools, and I've had very profound experiences as a result of both. I'm calea's best used as an oneirogen, and lotus as a mild sedative on its own, or a real power player in combinations.
 
Hell yeah some alchemist shit i like that. Heard someone day LSD, didng work with. MAOIs
 
Hell yeah some alchemist shit i like that. Heard someone day LSD, didng work with. MAOIs
LSD and harmaline in blind studies I've ran with sample sizes between 7-10 consistently generated longer lasting, more intense experiences with a noticeably unique vibe compared to LSD with hordenine or placebo. We used to refer to it as "lysergahuasca". Zeff also used this combination therapeutically iirc.
 
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