Meth & MDMA doesnt really seem to grab ahold of me so im thinking I might just party my summer away. Im 22 and too young to be wasting my time and money on this shit, id rather be out and if im going to use drugs use ones that will enhance my experiences, not numb them.
good sentiments. whatever happens i really hope y9ou take your own advice here. you're young enough to walk away from this and have every reason for doing so, especially in light of your recent OD IMO. glad you're ok, man. sounds like you may have been lucky to pull through - so please look after yourself/
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I am quite baffled at just how taboo heroin is in younger circles around wa. Like even the most psychotic, out of control people I have bumped into would not even bother hooking it up for me because of the stigma attached with it.
i think it is the horrendous withdrawals - which are completely debilitating for a few days - that are part of the stigma, both directly and indirectly.
by that, i'm referring to the desperate things some people end up doing to get a fix (in our climate of prohibition, thus the great expense of the substance itself). "junkies" get to be this way (ie the cliche the stigma is based on) from poverty, desperation, malnutrition.
heroin is a fairly short-lasting opiate, so people see these lying, stealing, cheating, unhealthy people and assume "that's what heroin does to you"...which is only half true - that's what expensive black market street heroin does to people.
people can easily get into situations where they would do practically anything to ease that suffering. i'm not saying all heroin users or addicts end up with no moral compass or anything like that, but you do lose the
choice of whether to get on or not. it takes that from you.
addicts of a lot of other ("street") drugs have more leeway in terms of the desperate scramble before the sickness is upon you and you're too violently ill to go score or obtain money to do so. maybe skip a day and feel shitty, or have 24/48 hours before things get really dire.
prohibition has turned heroin into the big
folk devil drug that it is.
as for its effects - well, it's an opiate. similar to others, with differences that may or may not be relevant depending on your frame of reference. unlike most people in this thread, i haven't had the greatest experiences with heroin. almost too stoned to really enjoy it.
i haven't really taken that much h though, i'm much more of a fan of opium/poppies/pods but if smack is your thing, then smack is your thing. we all react differently to drugs and enjoy them for different reasons.
as for "the most psychotic and out of control people" not wanting much to do with heroin, it was different in wa 20 years ago. the opposite, in fact. a lot of my friends lost huge chunks of their social groups to the heroin glut in australia in the 80s and early-mid 90s.
those sorts of people have the exposure to methamphetamine now, though which wasn't around in the same quantity in those days. drug fashions change, as do the social acceptance/stigma attached to each one. perhaps a generation of kids growing up watching the horrors of meth psychosis or the neurotic fiending that comes along with meth (particularly by users vaping it) will come of age thinking of meth as a horrible, dirty drug. it seems that attitudes in the US and in australia are really different on this one.
without talking too specifically about prices though, it is worth mentioning in regard to that last point that heroin is very expensive in australia compared to america. then again....so is meth. but meth is social, outgoing, energetic. it suits the times, and particular cultural practices, as heroin may well have suited the 80s/early 90s - high unemployment, recession etc.
the digital age we live in now is all about
fast. nobody has enough time or energy to do all that stuff there is to do - unless....
these things all go in cycles, i think. the current trend of research chemicals seeping through the mainstream and black/grey market is pretty unprecedented. who knows what will happen next?
if the
either way, take caution from ketaman's experience; a mistake can easily cost you your life with heroin (again, variability of street purity levels only increases this risk) - which is another massive stigma attached to heroin.
play safe, kids.
