Sleep paralysis ?!?!?! - MEGA MERGED

[7ca5p]

I expierence a similar thing, and its actually making me too scared to sleep, so when I feel myself slipping into a sleepy state, I wake myself up. Its needless explain why this is an issue.

Sorry to hear your going through this, and bare in mind that it could be an effect of a mental illness or sleep disorder, both of which are worth talking to your doctor about.

IMPORTANT NOTE: When you're in sleep paralysis and want it to stop, change your breathing pattern! This seems to remind the body that you are in fact awake and ends the paralysis, so either slow it down or speed it up!

 

[blue_bomber]

unfortunately its a vicious circle, the less you sleep the more it happens and the more it happens the less you want to sleep.

 

[Sentience]

If it really is aliens, we need to do something about this. I would rather take on aliens than demons, if there really is a difference.

Im guessing its just some chemical phenomena, but fuck its scary.

 

[blue_bomber]

If it really is aliens, we need to do something about this. I would rather take on aliens than demons, if there really is a difference.

Im guessing its just some chemical phenomena, but fuck its scary.

Its caused by a chemical in your brain that paralyses your body during REM sleep so you don't act out your dreams. Unfortunately in some people it gets released too soon and the person is fully awake, paralysed and dreaming = fear

 

[Macee]

Stayed up the whole night cause of it, don't want to go to sleep. It's almost 3pm now, I'm tired and I know I'm gonna have to go to sleep tonight...I'm dreading it tbh...

 

[Sentience]

Just curious, is there a drug everyone is using in common?

I have experienced it since childhood, but I wonder if any particular drug makes it more common.

 

[Eddygunz]

Dont know what u are talking about. Scary though, dark figures walking around.... sometimes I partially wake up, or when my body is naturally waking up I know I am in a dream and do really cool stuff, like go on high speed chases, and fuck everyone I see, seriously it feels kinds like real sex sometimes, but gotta have a full blatter for it to feel like that, wonder if I have ever peed my pants when thinking in my dream that I am fucking?

 

[Macee]

Just curious, is there a drug everyone is using in common?

I have experienced it since childhood, but I wonder if any particular drug makes it more common.

Doubt it, I rarely use drugs myself, Shrooms a few months ago when they were in season and very irregular pot, last time was a week or two ago.



lmao Eddy I believe what you are describing is a lucid dream, which is when you're conscience during a dream and can control it.

Sleep paralysis Is a form of lucidity I guess, you're just...actually awake but still dreaming lol, I hear you can induce some crazy experiences if you get rid of the fear.

 

[n3ophy7e]

I get this strange sensation in my mind, like I'm being warped into sleep paralysis mode, its like I'm literately being sucked into it, and the longer I wait while having this sensation the harder it is to get out until I am in it.

however if I lay down and close my eyes the weird feeling comes back and it happens again. I have no idea if I'm actually awake, since once in this state I rolled over looked at my wall and there was a my name engraved in it with a red glow.

Hi Macee, I suffer from SP quite frequently and both of these things that you've described above, although they seem weird and unusual, I have experienced both of these effects of SP. So I don't think what you have been experiencing is anything unusual in terms of an SP episode.

SP can manifest itself in all sorts of bizarre ways, and we still don't know why these subjective experiences are so variable. But basically there is one golden rule to remember about SP: It cannot harm you. The hallucinations are not real, there is no injury or damage occurring to your body or mind, there is no tangible reason to feel fear.

Now I know it's easy for me to say this to you, but maybe if next time it happens you could try to remember that it might help you relax? Which will in turn help you get through the SP faster. On the other hand, the more you panic, the worse it gets and the harder it is to get out of it.

Also, the more sleep deprived you are, the more likely it is that it will happen. So as tempting as it is to avoid sleep because you're scared of it happening again, probably the best thing to do is just to bite the bullet and go to sleep, try and remember the techniques for relaxing when it's happening that other people have suggested e.g. trying to move your big toe, or changing your breathing pattern etc, and get some more sleep. That way it's less likely of occurring the next night!

so 'm guessing if I could move my head and if I could turn around I would have seen something, but other than that no I haven't seen a presence.

Out of all the times I've ever had SP (it'd have to be over 100 times) I've only ever actually SEEN the presence 2 or 3 times. I think the majority of the time people do in fact only feel and/or hear the presence.

(some people claim to enjoy sleep paralysis)

I am one of those people
I have experience sleep paralysis so many times now, I know when it's occurring and exactly what is happening when I'm going through it. Of course it takes a lot of practice to be able to control your emotions during an episode, which is why for people who only experience it infrequently it is nearly impossible to "get used to it". But for people who get SP often, you can definitely train yourself to get through it without "the fear".

 

[Macee]

Hi Macee, I suffer from SP quite frequently and both of these things that you've described above, although they seem weird and unusual, I have experienced both of these effects of SP. So I don't think what you have been experiencing is anything unusual in terms of an SP episode.

SP can manifest itself in all sorts of bizarre ways, and we still don't know why these subjective experiences are so variable. But basically there is one golden rule to remember about SP: It cannot harm you. The hallucinations are not real, there is no injury or damage occurring to your body or mind, there is no tangible reason to feel fear.

Now I know it's easy for me to say this to you, but maybe if next time it happens you could try to remember that it might help you relax? Which will in turn help you get through the SP faster. On the other hand, the more you panic, the worse it gets and the harder it is to get out of it.

That's a relief. This sounds stupid but I know it can't harm me, but it still scares me to death I don't know why, normally something like this wouldn't but it's like I get an intramuscular injection of pure fear at the start. starts off low and just builds and builds, it's irrational but I can't help it.

Also, the more sleep deprived you are, the more likely it is that it will happen. So as tempting as it is to avoid sleep because you're scared of it happening again, probably the best thing to do is just to bite the bullet and go to sleep, try and remember the techniques for relaxing when it's happening that other people have suggested e.g. trying to move your big toe, or changing your breathing pattern etc, and get some more sleep. That way it's less likely of occurring the next night!

haha....its been 36 hours since ive had a good night sleep, had 1 and a half hours before the attack about 26 hours ago, I just had 7.5mg zopiclone to make the REM sleep less prevalent.

I have experience sleep paralysis so many times now, I know when it's occurring and exactly what is happening when I'm going through it. Of course it takes a lot of practice to be able to control your emotions during an episode, which is why for people who only experience it infrequently it is nearly impossible to "get used to it". But for people who get SP often, you can definitely train yourself to get through it without "the fear".

As an avid lucid dreamer, I would love to be able to get to this stage, like you said it's just about getting over the fear.

Thanks for the help!

 

[static_mind]

Iv had this before which I equate to MDMA useage. It started off in a dream and all of a sudden the dream would start going red and framey then id have a sudden jolt and il be all stiff, back arched and totally unable to move. Horriable feelings of evil being in the room and an evil looking grim reaper style man standing through my bed. After about 3 seconds it would wear off and id be normal again.

Then I started getting it as I went to sleep. Often id hear voices and shit in my pillow or id feel it coming on. One night I was unable to sleep because it was non stop. All this ended up wearing off but I seem to be left with a strange side effect, I sometimes fall asleep with my eyes open .

Iv done it a few times and my friends have noticed. I did this once in my room and I hullcinated my room mate enter and talk with me, I relised I was sleeping still and I decided to keep stareing at him to see when he dissapeared. I ended up blinking and he was gone.

From my experence im unable to end a dream unless at some stage I blink.

All the scary shit doesnt happen to me anymore, no more sp thank god, just sleeping with my eyes open.

 

[blue_bomber]

Stayed up the whole night cause of it, don't want to go to sleep. It's almost 3pm now, I'm tired and I know I'm gonna have to go to sleep tonight...I'm dreading it tbh...

I feel for you, when i had it for 8 months solid i was close to breaking down because going to bed was so frightning. But mate DON'T STAY UP because of it. Sleep deprivation is a huge factor in sleep paralysis.

I know its scary but before you sleep try telling yourself out loud that its just a dream, you will not die and there's nothing to be scared of. Keep repeating this out loud and your brain will kinda be trained not to be so scared

If it happens do your best to relax if you can, breath and concentrate on moving a small part of your body till you awake.

Also get some kalms or something, they'll relax you.

Hope you feel better about all this soon.
Oh and if your partying at the weekend (if you get me) I'd knock it on the head. It never stopped me parting mind but thats probably why I had it so bad and so frequently.

Take care

 

[OpiYum]

I have been through awful sleep paralysis and night terrors that feel like awful hauntings where my ears are filled with a deafening tone, my chest gets crushed (the scariest for me), awful visions of presences, levitation, being swung around, held upside down, and aching sharp pains if i try to scream or move. This has happened to me sober and on drugs. Ive been through it sooo many times and have survived, that i just let go and stop being scared.

One day in rehab i was furious, I somehow got up and physically fought a spirit, then the terrors stopped and awesome lucid dreams and full-sensory dreaming occurred for a few weeks and occasionally for months.

Realize that you will survive. It will be okay. and go along for the ride. You have been through it before, its old news to you so try not to be scared or get pissed off. Or try to see if u can fight it away.

There have been times i took downers to pass out to avoid the terror. but staying up never helped. i would fall into it while i would be sitting up awake, which seems and looks frightening. so I felt like this was my fate, and accepted it. and now i kinda miss it. haven't had it in a while. weird how something that scared me, i began to get used to and like, and now miss?

 

[blue_bomber]

I haven't had it bad for a while but definately don't miss it. I kinda know what your saying about missing it because its such a strange experience but I've had it in the region of 200 times so thats enough for me!

 

[drewmandan]

What Macee said. Lucid dreamers have the totally opposite perspective on sleep paralysis. To us, it's an incredibly useful tool for getting into lucid dreams, and it can easily be controlled.

My advice to anyone "suffering" from sleep paralysis is to learn about lucid dreaming and actually try some techniques. Eventually, you'll become frustrated with how RARE sleep paralysis is...

 

[capRx]

I've had sleep paralysis happen to me once. It's the scariest and weirdest feeling to be awake and paralyzed, not to mention the hallucinations you get.

But it only happened to me when I was using opiates on a somewhat regular basis. Don't know if its related, but opiates are known to mess up your sleep patterns, so idk...

 

[n3ophy7e]

Yep, from what I've read and from my own experience there is definitely a positive correlation between the use of some substances, particularly MDMA and opiates, and sleep paralysis.
Very interesting

 

[blue_bomber]

I had sleep paralysis quite a few times from taking E's(especially the ones with the brown flecks in them).

But mephedrone guaranteed me three nights of sleep paralysis at least after every session.

 

[Macee]

Thanks for the help guys
I haven't had it since, but I'm still cautious; sleeping on my side/stomach and playing trance softly to relax me if I indeed get an attack.

I will get another one, hope I'm ready for it

 

[dokomo]

I can identify, here is a post of mine from a previous sleep paralysis thread:

However, about two months ago I started experiencing it quite frequently, and in many horrifyingly different ways than before. Here is how it typically starts out for me. I wake up and become conscious of a sound in the room. I feel, and I mean really feel, my entire bed shaking. Then, I hear and feel something jump on to the comforter of my bed and crawl around up toward me. I will also hear various sounds and sense movement around the room, although I am unable to turn my head to look. Throughout the whole thing I am (of course) paralyzed and have an intense feeling of fear and horror.

One time in particular, this was so intense that directly afterwards I was totally convinced that I had been attacked by some sort of demon or evil spirit or something. All of the above happened plus I was physically pulled around in the bed. At one point half my body was pulled off the bed and suspended in mid-air in a way that would have been impossible without something holding me up.

The things that I feel, hear, and see are perceptually identical to what I sense in reality, so it is very hard to force myself to believe that it didn't happen. This hasn't happened in about a week so I am *really* hoping that it is going away.

Luckily, after about a month it abated. The biggest tip to stop sleep paralysis: don't sleep on your back. Sleep on your stomach. I don't know why, but this makes a huge difference.

Again, the things I felt were indistinguishable from real sensation. Especially when I felt and heard the pat pat pat of something jumping onto my comforter and slowly moving it's way up from my feet. It still kind of freaks me out how real it was.