Sleep paralysis ?!?!?! - MEGA MERGED

[crOOk]

My SP has been very severe lately. At its worst I'll be up all night falling in and out of SP. I've experienced this phenomenon since I can recall my dreams, around age 4-5. I notice when I fight the sensation and try to wake up, it only increases the intensity of the episodes. It really is a fascinating occurrence and can produce some of the most intense OBE I've ever had. Its peculiar that when under the spell of SP, It takes on a sinister nature. Always accompanied by intense panic, feelings of vulnerability, fear, and at the peak, a sensation akin to being electrocuted and torn apart by an evil entity.

I've also noticed that opiates can increase the chance of sleep paralysis as well.

Try what I suggested. It solved the issue for me after 5 years of agonizing sp 'clusters'. Electrocution is close to what I used to describe the sensation as, too. When I had resolved it that sensation turned into an extremely pleasant humming, I guess you could say orgasmically pleasant. :D

 

[higherconciousness]

Actually ended up purchasing that book you recommended Beyond the Body. Such an odd state to experience, but an interesting one as well. Curious as to what the book entails. Is it more of a pseudoscience type of novel or what, because to my understanding not much is known about it to begin with.

 

[crOOk]

Actually ended up purchasing that book you recommended Beyond the Body. Such an odd state to experience, but an interesting one as well. Curious as to what the book entails. Is it more of a pseudoscience type of novel or what, because to my understanding not much is known about it to begin with.

It's definitely not scientific at all, that's right. I'm afraid science won't come to your aid in this case though. Don't get me wrong, if you've read some of my posts you'll know that I'm a full-con advocate of neuropsychopharmacology, but there simply isn't any research on sleep paralysis.

That book helped me out of that nightmare for good and I still can't believe how rapidly I had relief after being plagued by it for more than 5 years. I'm really glad you give it a try since you seem to be the first one on here to take my advice. I am very very curious to see if it works for you, so please report back. If it does, it would probably convince a few more people this is a path worth walking down!

Retrospectively I'm grateful for the entirety of my experience with sleep paralysis. It eventually meant a non drug induced religious experience for me of which I only had two in my life (including a drug-induced one).

 

[higherconciousness]

Yeah, as of lately, science hasn't contributed many solid theories in regards to SP. Even though I've been plagued with sleep paralysis since I can remember dreaming, it is truly a fascinating, albeit terrifying, experience to have. I find it odd that every episode I have, always has a sinister, dark character to it. I've never had a pleasant time when under its spell, though I've heard of others being able to become lucid and change the nature of the episode.

When I have an extreme case, it almost resembles a bad 5-meo-dmt trip.

Just got the book today, so eventually I'll let you know what I think. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[crOOk]

though I've heard of others being able to become lucid and change the nature of the episode

indeed!

Can you elaborate what exactly happens during your attacks? do they occur almost every night? how many times per night? do they come in clusters? how long would you say one attack lasts? the bad 5-meo-dmt trip comparison has me curious.

also, do you smoke pot? if so, whats your pattern of use?

 

[StigmaShadow]

I first started experiencing sleep paralysis during my many day binges of MDPV (which was at least 4 years ago) But starting about a month ago it's come back. Its like falling asleep with a ringing in your head, and I awake trying my hardest to get out of the bed, but can't even lift a finger. About 3 nights ago I had another episode of SP, except this time I was able to get my phone from my nightstand (this is while under sleep paralysis). As soon as I had been able to lift the phone, I awoke. Wow. It was the first time I could move or act while under this, but let it be known when I woke up my phone was still on the nighstand, I had only dreamed that I picked it up and tried to make a call out. Makes me ask is this turning into something different? And is this a result of 9 days of no sleep over 4 years ago? I've read drugs can cause sleep paralysis, but I've also read this is the work of demonic possession. -_-

 

[smalldubster]

When i get SP i use all my focus to move a bodypart, and sometimes i tell myself to attack the scary visions i get. Wakes me up everytime

 

[MissBehavin'_416]

I think I get this every single morning. When I wake up I can't move for 1/2 hr or even more sometimes, but I don't remember dreaming anything right before. I don't see no shadow people nor hear any weird noises. I just absolutely can't move and I gotta pee so bad.
I try so hard to concentrate on one body part to try to move it, but to no avail. It starts hurting.

 

[JoeTheStoner]

only time i experienced sp was after a meth binge. but haven't touched that in years. using opiates for years i get this weird thing when falling asleep like within 20 minute im dreaming, wake up suddenly wide awake then takes another 20 or so min to get back to sleep for a full rest... always happens if i mix them with otc sleep aides.

* i experienced a "night terror" the other night, day after some norco... that shit was wild, like straight up demonic horror movie shit. scared me so much i had anxiety about sleeping last night, but didn't happen... thankfully.

 

[crOOk]

I think I get this every single morning. When I wake up I can't move for 1/2 hr or even more sometimes, but I don't remember dreaming anything right before. I don't see no shadow people nor hear any weird noises. I just absolutely can't move and I gotta pee so bad.
I try so hard to concentrate on one body part to try to move it, but to no avail. It starts hurting.

I've never heard of sleep paralysis lasting that long. People usually snap out of it within a minute.

 

[crOOk]

Since I've been rather unsuccessful at showing you that the cure is right there in front of you, side effect free and utterly orgasmic, that you don't have a curse lying on you but have been granted a great gift instead, since hardly anyone seems to even process what I said before they go on whining about how scared they still are after so many years (I had them every week, often in clusters of ~20 consecutive paralysis, painful electrifying vibrations, often accompanied by tactile, propioceptic, as well as the most insane visual and auditory hallucinations for only a very short time right before that big bang knocked me back into the next false awakening, over and over and over. Eventually I knew it had to stop sometime and I just endured it, more bored than scared, but it always remained uncomfortable.

Then I put my mind to it for a single day and turned my greatest burden into an experience that is since only been matched by one DMT experience in particular. The OBE was both kick-starter and a catalyst of finding my religious beliefs. After a few more experiences they unfortunately faded into blackness until they were entirely gone.

Sleep paralysis is one of the very few illnesses that I am convinced should not be treated with psychopharmaceuticals, not even with psychotherapy. It's a spiritual calling, that's what it is. Take it or leave it, keep whining and wasting time on that profoundly dysfunctional explanation of the phenomenom that could open you the door to an experience that others work lifetimes on achieving (no shit!), an experience I remember vividly. I was in a perfectly conscious hyper-real state, perfectly reflected and aware of where my body was, a state that gave ,e the power to fly as elegantly as I only could had I been doing it since the beginning of time, my body glowing vibrantly with energy and leaving the finest fairy dust in it's way. It's a place of infinite possibilities.

Real shame I prefer ketamine over putting some energy back into this.

I am not trying to disregard your very real pains, I do know all too well what that feels like. All I am saying is that you should trust your mind to introduce you to this place for a reason and not because you are a nutcase. Psychiatry is fundamentally wrong in some interpretations of illness, especially here where OBE's are completely ignored.

I stumbled over this, more people whose process was almost identical to mine. I thought this post would be 2 lines long lol.


http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/the-terror-and-the-bliss-of-sleep-paralysis/


Just fucking it and stop victimizing yourselves, you will find however much effort you put into it to be well worth it. It's definitely a take-home experience!

 

[Journyman16]

It's possible that some paralysis episodes are something else but I know about 5 or 6 people who have had them and in every case it led (with some encouragement) to OBE's. I haven't heard of lucid dreams coming from them but I don't discount it.

I used to Mod on a forum dealing with OBE's and other energy phenomena and there were many on there who were scared by the paralysis or other hypnagogic effects. We would calm them down and basically talk them through how to deal with things and shortly after they'd be all enthusiastic.

Our society talks a lot about Religion but very little about spirituality. I think it's the ignorance of what is happening that is the greatest problem.

 

[crOOk]

It's possible that some paralysis episodes are something else but I know about 5 or 6 people who have had them and in every case it led (with some encouragement) to OBE's. I haven't heard of lucid dreams coming from them but I don't discount it.

I used to Mod on a forum dealing with OBE's and other energy phenomena and there were many on there who were scared by the paralysis or other hypnagogic effects. We would calm them down and basically talk them through how to deal with things and shortly after they'd be all enthusiastic.

Our society talks a lot about Religion but very little about spirituality. I think it's the ignorance of what is happening that is the greatest problem.

You speaking my mind. Remarkably, I once read about an horizontal study, and it turned out that an overproportional part of the mentally ill has been or is still 'suffering' of sleep paralysis, this actually concerned illnesses that DSM considers to be separate entities (e.g. schizophrenia and bipolar disorder). I vaguely recall a figure around 80%, while it's much lower amongst the general (male) populace, 30% prevalence I think, much lower for women.

It might be due to my own life experience that I consider the fact that so many people with mental illness experienced sleep paralysis an outcry of our soul, a plea towards us, an expression of desperate need. But whatever one prefers to think is at works there, it doesn't stop with crying out, it evens the way for us, repeatedly, over and over throughout years and sometimes decades giving us the chance for to satisfy that need and is rewarding us with an all-free no-catch full-on orgasmic experience.

So why do so many people keep exposing themselves to it? We know that for something to be considered an pathological symptom, there is an extremely large amount of people experiencing it.

I suppose part of it is our obedience of science and cold logic, when a myriad of medical researchers who are as clueless about spiritual issues as a child is clueless about financial worries don't acknowledge the phenomenom for something that pathophysiology can probably explain sooner or later, but should first and foremost try to be resolved without suppressing it, so it can be integrated into our selves much better when we have resolved the issue and have gained a better idea of who we are. I guess some try hard to not confront themselves with their inevitable end. While in life you can choose to be religious or not, before death we are all the same.

 

[Soulgasm]

I used to get this some mornings, especially after taking longer acting sleep aids. Shit was terrifying. I'd be somewhat lucid yet unable to move and felt like I was floating in the room over my body. Then I would hear this profoundly evil laugh and feel an all consuming dark presence move throughout the room. It was kinda reminiscent of this picture:

http://www.christianvideo4free.com/resources/paralysis.jpg

 

[mmmbeer]

I get SP and It's always the same scenario it seems like. Im always in my room and I can see as plain as day, but something is coming and it is coming at me fast. I can hear it's loud stomps as its coming towards me. I fight with all my might to move my arm or leg or roll over. Then I feel like someone is putting a pillow over my face and I can't breath. Shortly after this I wake up. Or at least I thought I did, but I'm still sleeping and then BAM I really do awake. It's like fucking Inception or something. I wish I could control my mind, but 99 percent of the time it's the same thing. One time I looked up and a woman with feathers was looking down at me. It wasn't like angel looking, but more like a fucked up dress someone at the Oscars would wear. She just started laughing at me as she slowly disappeared.

 

[rm-rf]

im glad im capable of experiencing sleep paralysis. its really crazy, and its always scary when it happens. its happened about 40-50 times in my life, usually every year or so it happens at least once. when i first had my MDMA honymoon, it happend quite frequently though.

 

[SixBuckets]

I've never heard of sleep paralysis lasting that long. People usually snap out of it within a minute.

I sometimes get stuck in it for what feels like hours, but I'm a terrible sleeper. Usually the point where "the person in the room" attacks me jolts me awake.